Posted by Ricky D
Note to all: work is in progress, expect improvements here all year round. If any info is missing, large or small, PM me or write it up in the thread and I'll insert it appropriately. Should wish to make any info public anonymously PM me also.
Suggestions for layout/design? Tell me!
Welcome to the Sony/Sony Ericsson rumours 2012
This year we know Sony and Ericsson are ending their joint venture and the Sony Ericsson brand will be phased out which means hopefully a bumper year for rumours, devices and overall excitement.
Rumours / News
Device Rumours
Accessory Rumours
Announcements
Upcoming Announcements
Interviews
Misc
Rumours / News
3rd Sep - CES 2013 supposedly to show at least one high-end handset, 2H2013 supposed to be an even better handset
29th Aug - Xperia T/TX, Xperia V and Xperia J announced at Sony's IFA press conference (page 269)
26th Aug - Sony Press Conference to be held on Aug 29th 3PM UK time live stream from forum link (page 263)
26th Aug - Stronger clues pointing towards an Xperia Nexus device (page 261)
23rd Aug - News of Lund being downsized to software UI development only, R&D to be centralised with Sony group in Tokyo, 1000 to be jobs lost by March 2014
23rd Aug - Images leaks of upcoming Xperia J ST26i (page 159)
22nd Aug - Images from a Swedish article shows a cancelled Xperia Tab (page 258)
16th Aug - Xperia SL is official. Xperia S with 1.7GHz CPU clock
12th Aug - (my) continued confusion as to which of LT30 and LT29 will be available in which markets
12th Aug - "Xperia TX" touted as the retail name for LT29 (hayabusa) (page 248)
9th Aug - pictures leak appearing to show an Xperia branded Tablet S with a slimmer profile and more juice (page 241)
3rd Aug - Xperia Masona appears on various UK e-tailers for ~£200 (page 229)
3rd Aug - LT30 to be named Xperia T (page 229)
26h Jul - a Mint LT30p preview articles start to appear with photos (page 214)
23rd Jul - LT30p pops up on nenamark with a healthy score of 60.10 and 1.5GHz with adreno 225, confirms 720p screen (page 211)
6th Jul - New rumours on hayabusa and mint (page 199)
13th Jun - Xperia Miro announced via facebook
8th Jun - "Nice surprise" coming next week
30th May - Xperia Arco S and Xperia Go waterproof handsets announced
9th May - Xperia GX and Xperia SX for the Japan only handsets announced and point towards the specs for world releases later in the year (http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=203113&start=1800)
5th May - Whispers from xda say Hayabusa to have plastic body and chrome highlighted edging, mint to have aluminium, announcment due 19th June (page 118)
27th Apr - Xperia SX details rumoured (page 109)
26th Apr - Host of LT29i Hayabusa rumours coming through including a spyshot (page 107).
24th Apr - Announcement invitations sent out for May 2nd Press Day (page 106)
23rd Mar - We can expect a all new qwerty sometime this year (page 92)
20th Mar - announcement of Xperia Neo L, specs look like the Xperia Play but in a slimmer body without the slide out controls, announcement suggests it's an emerging market handset (page92)
13th Mar - Xperia Sola MT27i announced sporting new 'floating touch' technology (press release)
10th Mar - MT27i Pepper appears in Sony China site but is swiftly removed (page 84)
26th Feb - Xperia P and Xperia U announced as rumoured at MWC12
20th Feb - A whole bunch of leaked images of what seems to be Xperia U/kumquat/ST25i (page 64)
19th Feb - Sony WhiteMagic screens rumoured to be included on upcoming Xperia P. This means brighter screens and better battery performance
10th Feb - leaked picture of an unannounced mini handset (page 59)
4th Feb - "Xperia Sola" trademark gets filed by Sony
31st Jan - Xperia P appears alongside LT22i in Indian FCC equivalent documents
26th Jan - EU regulatory boards approve Son's buyout of Ericsson's share of Sony Ericsson, all this year's phones will be 'Sony' branded
18th Jan - This years's price/release roadmap of devices leaks (page 47)
16th Jan - An image appeared in Sweden of what appears to be 3-4 new devices, supposedly LT29i, Nypon, global version of Ion (page 45)
9th Jan - All the new handsets this year will carry the Sony logo NOT Sony Ericsson /
8th Jan - Nozomi leaked as Xperia S and another device to be named Xperia Ion
8th Jan - Leaked pics of MT27i 'Pepper'
7th Jan - hint of a 'big boy' to appear at MWC NOT CES
6th Jan - Teasers from various public Sony and Sony Ericsson fronts suggest a Walkman Z mobile phone variant to come soon
6th Jan - More pics of LT26 appear this time with specs of 1.5GHz dual-core, 1GB RAM and Gingerbread (4.0 to come later) (page14)
5th Jan - Sony to revive an old sliding keyboard tablet design with updated specs (page 11)
30th Dec - "Xperia Ion" name appears in the US Trademark filings
30th Dec - Nozomi to have a 1 or 2 letter official name
Know more? Tell me!
Device Rumours (in order of rumoured release)
2013
Unknown - updated: 3rd Sep
- 1H2013 flagship
- APQ8064 1.5GHz
- To be announced at CES
Unknown - updated: 3rd Sep
- 2H2013 flagship
- MSM8974 2.5GHz
2012
Xperia Tablet S - announced 29th Aug
JLo - ST26i - Xperia J - announced 29th Aug
Tsubusa - LT25i - Xperia V announced 29th Aug
Mint - LT30i - Xperia T - announced 29th Aug
Hayabusa - LT29i - Xperia TX - announced 29th Aug
Tapioca - ST21 - Xperia Tipo and Xperia Tipo Dual announced 13th June
Mesona - ST26i - Xperia miro - announced 13th June
Hikaru - LT26w - Xperia Arco S - announced 30th May
Lotus - ST27i - Xperia Go - announced 30th May
Pepper - MT27i - Xperia Sola - announced 13th Mar
Nypon - LT22 - Xperia P - announced 26th Jan
Kumquat - ST28 - Xperia U - announced 26th Jan
Aoba - LT28at - Xperia Ion - announced 9th Jan
Nozomi - LT26i - Xperia S - announced 9th Jan
Probably Cancelled
Odin - Play 2 - updated: 31st Jan
- Specs unknown
Xperia Duo - updated April 6th
- Name is tradmarked but not used yet
- Applied for trademark (again) by Sony Mobile (NOT SEMC) in March 2012, might just be held in reserve for future use or to help create rumours
Pureness II
- Supposedly fixed battery
- nothing else known
- Probably cancelled
Know more? Tell me!
Accessories Rumours
- A new watch for CES (source)
- A new headset for CES
Know more? Tell me!
Announcements
- 29th Aug Xperia T/TX, Xperia V, Xperia J and Xperia Tablet S
- 8th May Xperia GX & Xperia SX
- 13th Mar Xperia Sola
- MWC 26th Jan Xperia P
- MWC 26th Jan Xperia U
- CES 9th Jan Xperia NX - Japan only
- 9th Jan Xperia arco HD - Japan only updated Arco
- 9th Jan Xperia S - press release - Esato thread
- CES 9th Jan Xperia Ion - press release - Esato thread
Upcoming Announcements
- None rumoured
Know more? Tell me!
Interviews
- 28th FebSony Mobile and PS NOT working together on new phone. Playstation phone will come from PS department.
- 18th JanBert Nordberg having a chat with CNN - he discusses among other things the Sony situation (page 49)
Know more? Tell me!
Misc
Know more? Tell me!
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2012-09-03 10:51 ]
Posted by hihihans
You better get ready for a year of hard work Ricky. Good luck.
Posted by AkuKL
Glad that now we can all start to speculate about the upcoming models here.
P/S: Would be good to make it sticky.
[ This Message was edited by: AkuKL on 2011-12-26 10:49 ]
Posted by HxH
Cheer, all the best
Ricky 
Posted by AkuKL
On 2011-12-26 14:08:45, HxH wrote:
Cheer, all the best
Ricky
Yeah, thanks Ricky.
Posted by chombos1
good luck man...
and i wish you a load of SE/S rumors...
Posted by argiriano
Where are Nypon (LT22i) and Pepper (MT27i) and Tapioca (ST21i)?
Posted by adsada
Good luck
I'm really looking forward to see what 2012 has in stock for SE!
Posted by smclion102
All the best Ricky
2012 Rebirth of SONY
Posted by rikken
Good luck Ricky
Posted by Ricky D
Thanks all, this year will be great with the things that have always made this thread great; the people who take part.
On 2011-12-26 16:03:10, argiriano wrote:
Where are Nypon (LT22i) and Pepper (MT27i) and Tapioca (ST21i)?
They're on their way. Just went out for some boring day shopping! There's still lots of other stuff mining too. I'll fill it up over the coming days.
However, till then post up anything that's missing.
Posted by motvikt
Good luck!
Btw isnt lt28 aoba?
Posted by Karun
On 2011-12-26 20:01:01, motvikt wrote:
Good luck!
Btw isnt lt28 aoba?
Yeah it is. afaik.
Posted by pt020
Thank you !
[ This Message was edited by: pt020 on 2011-12-29 18:42 ]
Posted by randomuser
Has anybody seen sample photos taken with the Cybershot S006 16.2 mp Japan phone ?
@pt020
Kumquat is the mini pro sucessor. ST25i
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2011-12-27 05:04 ]
Posted by razec
On 2011-12-27 06:03:36, randomuser wrote:
Has anybody seen sample photos taken with the Cybershot S006 16.2 mp Japan phone ?
And also the S007
@Ricky: Congrats with the new thread! We do all pray for some Sony tech muscles this year
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2011-12-27 06:14 ]
Posted by pt020
On 2011-12-27 06:03:36, randomuser wrote:
Has anybody seen sample photos taken with the Cybershot S006 16.2 mp Japan phone ?
@pt020
Kumquat is the mini pro sucessor. ST25i
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2011-12-27 05:04 ]
Thats what I thought but I did not find it in the list on page one
Posted by AkuKL
On 2011-12-27 06:03:36, randomuser wrote:
Has anybody seen sample photos taken with the Cybershot S006 16.2 mp Japan phone ?
@pt020
Kumquat is the mini pro sucessor. ST25i
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2011-12-27 05:04 ]
Would love to see it so that we can at least have some idea of what to expect.
Posted by Ricky D
I'm currently trawling the last 100 pages of the 2011 thread for things relevant to 2012. Bear with me, there's a lot to read and sift through.
It would help if missing info is reposted in here so there's less to read and I'll put it straight in the first post.
Posted by argiriano
On 2011-12-27 09:48:12, Ricky D wrote:
It would help if missing info is reposted in here so there's less to read and I'll put it straight in the first post.
Supposed pic of LT22i Nypon
http://i582.photobucket.com/a[....]bC%201/SonyEricssonXperia2.jpg
Posted by razec
On 2011-12-27 10:52:42, argiriano wrote:
On 2011-12-27 09:48:12, Ricky D wrote:
It would help if missing info is reposted in here so there's less to read and I'll put it straight in the first post.
Supposed pic of LT22i Nypon
http://i582.photobucket.com/a[....]bC%201/SonyEricssonXperia2.jpg
And i thought that was LT26 Nozomi
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2011-12-27 10:06 ]
Posted by motvikt
On 2011-12-27 11:06:13, razec wrote:
On 2011-12-27 10:52:42, argiriano wrote:
On 2011-12-27 09:48:12, Ricky D wrote:
It would help if missing info is reposted in here so there's less to read and I'll put it straight in the first post.
Supposed pic of LT22i Nypon
http://i582.photobucket.com/a[....]bC%201/SonyEricssonXperia2.jpg
And i thought that was LT26 Nozomi
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2011-12-27 10:06 ]
I think all 2012 phones looks the same. Or at least LT-phones.
[ This Message was edited by: motvikt on 2011-12-27 10:30 ]
Posted by motvikt
On 2011-12-27 09:48:12, Ricky D wrote:
I'm currently trawling the last 100 pages of the 2011 thread for things relevant to 2012. Bear with me, there's a lot to read and sift through.
It would help if missing info is reposted in here so there's less to read and I'll put it straight in the first post.
Tip! Go to xperiablog.net and go to the "tag" rumours. There you will find all the rumours, both from here and elsewhere. Its probably easier than reading the whole thread
Posted by argiriano
On 2011-12-27 11:06:13, razec wrote:
And i thought that was LT26 Nozomi
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2011-12-27 10:06 ]
According to rumors this is Nypon and the only differences to Nozomi is frontfacing camera placement, metal back cover and smaller overal dimensions of cource.
[ This Message was edited by: argiriano on 2011-12-27 12:08 ]
Posted by NoTnERb
thanks for stepping up Ricky and hope to have an awesome Sony year!
Posted by Bonovox
Ooh all fresh & new
I just read Sony Ericsson Sync is closing down.
Posted by moogoo
they announced they were discontinuing sony ericsson sync awhile back i think. i've never used it myself. i just use google's services
Posted by Bonovox
I only ever used it once
Posted by razec
So if Aoba would have 13mp camera then Sony should consider equipping it with a real flash, or it would be a pointless having all those pixels wasted on lowlight and nightshots, I believe Sony should stop using the "harming its own lineup" reasoning if they want more brand distinction in the mobile world. Or are they just going to wait and see Apple announce iPhone 4s successor with Xenon flash or any features they are usually able to equip their phones with before they realize the need.
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2011-12-28 07:45 ]
Posted by goldenface
Isn't that the way it usually goes?
All it takes is for Apple or Samsung to launch a high-end phone with Xenon and Sony will have dropped the ball yet again.
Anyway, good luck with the thread Ricky - CES is gonna be massive by the looks of things. Hopefully, all the phones listed will be seen working at MWC in Feb.
Posted by argiriano
On 2011-12-28 12:27:44, aurelius wrote:
I'm not sure we're gonna se 'Nozomi' at all... rumours though...
Interesting... I think not having Nozomi would leave too big gap between european Nypon and american Aoba?
There`s no way not having 4/4+ inch device at all in the rest of the world so there should be some other device crowned as flagship.
Posted by motvikt
On 2011-12-28 12:27:44, aurelius wrote:
I'm not sure we're gonna se 'Nozomi' at all... rumours though...
did you hear why? Hope they delay it for krait, that would be the smartest thing se has done in a while
Posted by Karun
There was a Lt28i too so probably Aoba is slated for a global launch while Nozomi is out?
Posted by randomuser
On 2011-12-28 16:21:06, Karun wrote:
There was a Lt28i too so probably Aoba is slated for a global launch while Nozomi is out?
True!
There is both LT28i and LT28a.
Posted by AkuKL
On 2011-12-28 15:42:53, aurelius wrote:
On 2011-12-28 15:10:09, motvikt wrote:
On 2011-12-28 12:27:44, aurelius wrote:
I'm not sure we're gonna se 'Nozomi' at all... rumours though...
did you hear why? Hope they delay it for krait, that would be the smartest thing se has done in a while
I've 'heard' that the camera module produced way too bad pictures among other things. But as argiriano said
it would create a big gap between NYPON and LT28.
Take it as a rumour as it's not cfmd at all. We'll se on jan 9th
[ This Message was edited by: aurelius on 2011-12-28 14:43 ]
If the rumour about the camera module is true, I hope Sony can come up with a better one.
Posted by thatsweird
On 2011-12-28 12:27:44, aurelius wrote:
I'm not sure we're gonna se 'Nozomi' at all... rumours though...
Sounds familiar to me!
Anyway, let me add something to this thread (love rumour threads!
)
[ This Message was edited by: thatsweird on 2011-12-28 16:55 ]
Posted by motvikt
On 2011-12-28 17:49:33, thatsweird wrote:
On 2011-12-28 12:27:44, aurelius wrote:
I'm not sure we're gonna se 'Nozomi' at all... rumours though...
Sounds familiar to me!
Anyway, let me add something to this thread (love rumour threads!
)
[ This Message was edited by: thatsweird on 2011-12-28 16:55 ]
YES!! Seems like the rumours of the "track ID skin" were true! Awesome, its beautiful
Posted by argiriano
I agree it look very nice!
Posted by thatsweird
Wait til u c what's behind that more button!
Posted by motvikt
On 2011-12-28 21:32:16, thatsweird wrote:
Wait til u c what's behind that more button!
Can you confirm that this new theme will be the new SE-skin? It looks awesome, much better than stock ICS
Posted by thatsweird
Would guess it is, yes.
Posted by aamwng
I thought the notification bar on ICS is blue?
[ This Message was edited by: aamwng on 2011-12-28 21:13 ]
Posted by moogoo
i don't know how you guys can tell so much from a simple equalizer screen
yes, this particular screen looks nice, but it's not spectacular?
I'm more interested in the other stuff as I don't intend to stare an at equalizer 99% of the time
Posted by Legen
On 2011-12-28 22:23:20, moogoo wrote:
i don't know how you guys can tell so much from a simple equalizer screen
yes, this particular screen looks nice, but it's not spectacular?
I'm more interested in the other stuff as I don't intend to stare an at equalizer 99% of the time
+1
Posted by motvikt
Its not the particular image. Its the overall design theme of their skin. This image gives further evidence that this is the look they will use. And its beautiful
Look here for more design cues
https://market.android.com/de[....]Nvbnllcmljc3Nvbi50cmFja2lkIl0.
Posted by pt020
The design of the EQ can give a hint for the overall desing
looks very pro and EQ is original SE/S (not an app) with 10 steps again ...
I hope the rest of the phone will looks nice and simple as this screen shot.
Posted by thatsweird
It actually does
Posted by Legen
The ics interface is quite nice you have to agree. Wouldn't it be good to have the option of turning off sonyericsson skin? I know i'd appreciate it
Posted by MNX1024
On 2011-12-29 00:23:14, Legen wrote:
The ics interface is quite nice you have to agree. Wouldn't it be good to have the option of turning off sonyericsson skin? I know i'd appreciate it
Agreed, not just SE, all manufacturer should allow the consumer to turn their UI/Theme on/off whenever we want and install others if we like.
Now concerning vanilla ICS, I love it. After using it on my nexus, I absolutely couldn't stand any other version of android, especially non-vanilla.
Posted by razec
On 2011-12-29 06:13:28, MNX1024 wrote:
On 2011-12-29 00:23:14, Legen wrote:
The ics interface is quite nice you have to agree. Wouldn't it be good to have the option of turning off sonyericsson skin? I know i'd appreciate it
Agreed, not just SE, all manufacturer should allow the consumer to turn their UI/Theme on/off whenever we want and install others if we like.
Now concerning vanilla ICS, I love it. After using it on my nexus, I absolutely couldn't stand any other version of android, especially non-vanilla.
Actually Android ICS UI is so distinct now that we can hardly call it IOS lookalike, besides the new color theme looks very similar to SE's blue wave theme UI for android, I think All manufacturers should stop making their own deep custom UIs and focus instead on the quality of the software and speed up the rolling of software updates, Hardware abstraction due to different HW platform itself is a painful source of delay in Android OS update.
And the news on the bad camera performance of Nozomi scared me, If Nozomi can't even produce similar image quality as Satio in daylight then I think Sony's sensor development team is not doing their job well. Are we even going to see Sony phones shine on imaging in 2012?