Posted by SveNGaLi
Neonode seems to be vaporware.
Anyways what i think needs to be done is an earlier release. They also state a revolutionary product in the beginning of 2005. If its the same thing as this (high end phone but not like the p series) then i will go for that. I wish i knew whats so revolutionary about it. i want this phone so bad
Posted by chungagoring
hey people, have you thought that the s700 could wear a smartphone os? in particular, a symbian 7 uiq for non touchscreen devices. why not? if is not going to wear the same interface platform as the k700/z1010 (since the firmware of s700 is less than two weeks old), it would be wise of SE to make this technically capable phone a proper smartphone. this article http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/68/36232.html does mention this possibility: "The UIQ team gave Sony Ericsson more reasons to be cheerful at Cannes, announcing a one-handed UIQ user interface that will compete for developers with Series 60". if this hypothethical OS goes into the S700 then the s700 would be that real competitor for the series 60 we always wanted: the realisation of the project p200 (the sony ericsson neonode).
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Posted by mmsman
yeah that would be nice, but if this uiq 3 thing is true than surely we won't see it in shops in dec but rather in march!
Posted by Sutitan
Symbian in S700 = more money.
And as it is i am broke...
Im fine with the phone as it is anyways.
Posted by andrew99
symiban costs a whole $5USD per handset. Cost should not really be the issue
Posted by Sutitan
Costs them 5 dollars. But how much will they jack up the price to they can make a good profit...
Posted by jack00
@chungagoring
good point
i heard alot about a new user interface, before se launched the S700 and K700 ... some even called it E100 ... but it somehow seamed to have disapeared because se didn't annouce something like this and even the pics at se.com show the same UI as the K700 has
put it is possible ... guess we have to wait till cebit
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The E100 is what the Z1010 uses. And at the presentation of there 2 new phones the K700 had E100 interface built into it. As for the S700 i believe it will be similar but not in all areas.
Posted by ppcrockar
The S in S700 could stand for Symbian... well just wishful thinking I guess
Posted by Sutitan
If that was true wouldent it be the S800 and the S900 insted of the P?
Posted by jack00
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i know, but someone at m-r.com said that there is a newer interface, which won't be used in the K700 ... but in the S700, and he called this e100
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Posted by chungagoring
k700 and z1010 share the same interface, it's the e100. s700 will have another one, different, not sure if based on e100 or symbian uiq.
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For your info. i did some reasearch. Do it yourself as well or just trust my word on these specs. Here it goes
· EGPRS Class 12
· Quad band, GPRS/EGPRS 850/900/1800/1900
· Adaptive MultiRate (AMR), GSM FR/EFR/HR
· RS232, IrDA, USB, Bluetooth
· Extensive Display Support
- Up to 65k colours
- 176x220
- Dual display
· E-OTD
· SMS, EMS, MMS support
· Multimedia support
- Camera and viewfinder support
- Stereo audio support
- Polyphonic ring tones (MIDI)
· Flash security mechanism
· SIM-AT
· Speech recognition
· Intelligent text input
· Battery fuel-gauging
· External memory card support
· Open API for applications including a Complete Development Environment
Like I said The Z1010 has all of these and the e100 interface. But i am having doubts because that list encludes "External Memory card support".
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E100 is one of the HW platforms from Ericsson Mobile Platforms, that is used e.g. by SE to build EDGE
phones. It has nothing to do with the SW user interface if that is what you are refering to.
Z1010 is most probably using U100 or U200 as platform (these are for UMTS). Not E100. You can
read more about it here:
http://www.3gamericas.org/pdfs/Ericsson-Bengtsson-031703.pdf
More info about each plattform can be found here.
http://www.ericsson.com/mobileplatforms/products/gprs/G200.shtml
Note, that not necessary all features provided by a platform may be available on phones based on them (some may be disabled).
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Posted by Sutitan
Does SE even say what interface they are using. Until they tell us we can only guess, right?
As for what i said, seems like garbage to what the poster above me said! I guess i was wrong. 2 days till Cebit! lets hope they have the working model by then. Cant Wait!
Posted by pinolo77
I believe the person who said the release date is too far away is right!!!
In fact this will not be a proper PDA-phone and will compete with another group of phones, some of which already are in stores...
Look at this phone for example:
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/4616.html
Sonyericsson has to talk a little less and to release phones a little faster, otherwise they might never achieve the market share they would love to.
I am amazed at the phone on the link, and I think s700 could be a good competitor if it would have hit stores TODAY, not in a year time...
I am really critic towards sonyericsson, but in the last months they really take things slowly (almost Nokia style)...
By the way... I have actually seen and used this phone and it is indeed an amazing piece of technology.... Screen 256k, BT, SD card slot, MP3, 2 screens, 1Mpixel camera (picture and video).
The only two things I didn't like is Vodafone Live SW (256k colors and then a white/red SW in it??), although I don't yet know how well the SW works (bugs and so on), and the fact it is quite big (although smaller than P800).
I don't know if it is HTML capable, but with all the features it has, I expect it to be. And, if not, I think I could live with that....
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Posted by McKinley
pinolo77
Sony Ericsson S700 is coming at the beginning of Q3 and not Q4.
Those people who knows much about Sony Ericsson says it, so I just refer the preliminary release date to you.
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I really hope it is coming before the end of the year. Because I like the features in the phone. Thank you for the info
Posted by 701
the video camera is actually VGA (640x480) while the photo cam is 1.3 mb, not 1 MB...cuz there's a diff'rence in quality.
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Posted by mmsman
@k786uk
i certainly agree with that!
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Posted by orange
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From the SonyEricsson press release:
"The S700 will be available in Q4 2004."
So, I guess the people who do the SonyEricsson press releases don't know a shit then...
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if mike van der wallen, vicepresident head of
EMEA, says the same as the press releases, then he doesn't know shit either? come on, don't go doubting about official information.
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were did you see and use it? and how have vodafone already made software for it when the
software is presumably (spelling??) very buggy at the moment... and wats this 2nd your talking about?
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I was not doubting the official press release, I was just to optimistic to what I read regarding release date.
I think
will have S700 ready soon with or without new UIQ 3.0 which will not come until Q4 and probably a reason why S700 is planned to be released in Q4.
Is this not possible? they release S700 at the beginning of Q3 and later on an upgraded S700 with the new UIQ 3.0?
Since many other manufactures are going for built-in 1.3MPixels cam, they ought to release S700 as soon as possible if they want to stay on top.
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Posted by orange
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I didn't see any mention that S700 would use Symbian UIQ. And it's highly unlikely that they change the whole OS in the phone. Of course it is possible that they introduce UIQ 3.0 device in 4Q/04, infact I would be suprised if they don't, but that's most likely totally different device.
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and for @ mckinley and orange and ah what the heck for the whole forum
i highly doubt that se wil use uiq3 in s700, even the offical pictures showed that they are developing a "normal" menu layout.. and maybe the release date is for 4q because of the lack in hardware, like for instance shortage of 1.3mp cameras considering every manafactuer is going to have one this year.....
though i still think that they will introduce a uiq3 non and touchscreen, maybe p1000 and something like t800 or whatever, but i think this won't happen until september....
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That's exactly what I said in my previous post...
Posted by mhead1
what do you think about the size? especially the thickness of the phone...
Posted by chungagoring
the official pictures are showing a fake screen showing the k700 main menu. it even shows the "radio" item, feature which is of course not available in s700. the firmware of s700 is just 2 weeks old so no one can say whether it will be uiq 3 or k700/z1010-like. the firmware of s700 will be ready in 5 or 6 weeks but again, it won't be out in the market until q4 no matter how optimistic we are
Posted by Sutitan
For that comment about S700 size. The S700 is not Fat! I looked online on a bunch of forums and i found a pick of a side comparison of T610 and S700. Ill refind the picture and show it again
Posted by 701
I guess the thickness is just fine , it does a lot of things but i guess the size is just right!
Posted by swipe108
Hi everybody!
I'm kinda new here but I've been reading and monitoring this thread for a week now. I kinda agree with most people that Q4 is far too late for
to release the S700.
With Nokia announcing the release of 7610 in Q2, people who are waiting for a megapixel phone will probably look to that phone.
I'm not really into the swivel thing since I don't like a hidden keypad. I want the keypad on my phone to be always right there when I need it but I'll just have to live with S700 keypad since I really like the combination of feature on it. I'll just probably have to learn to reduce my texting and make more voice calls instead.
Posted by mib1800
I think K700 is not running Symbian.
Any idea on the S700.
If both these phones do not have Symbian, then they will be hard pressed to compete with the Nk7610.
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As it says in the SE dev site: "With Java MIDP 2.0 support and a Java 3D game engine with cutting edge graphics..."
So, no mention about Symbian C++ dev support. It's more than likely to be NON-Symbian UIQ device.
Posted by mmsman
umm i know the pics of the screen are "fake" but lets say you are a mobile developer, you are planing a device with high tech fetaures but you are not sure which operating system will you use because you have a stable one and a very rich one that is still in development, surely you are not going to show the public pics of the stable one if you are not sure yet right?
they could have still left the screen blank......
@orange, yeah i knew you wrote that
but i found out just after i wrote mine guess i need a new pair of glasses
Posted by sieg dante
I think se must have their own reason that launch the s700 in Q4....anyway i'm going to own this phone even it will avaliable on Q4
Posted by Superluminova
Hey guys i've found Loads images of a working s700 which is being showen at cebit, enjoy:
more can be found here : http://www.mobilmania.cz/Bleskovky/AR.asp?ARI=106832
Posted by mmsman
i think i'm going to wet my panties that looks awesome!!!
4q where are you!!!!!
edit: se always forgets something, once a screen now they forgot to paint the keys....
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Posted by chungagoring
still, those images are showing the "radio" item of the k700 when the s700 doesn't have radio! but they do look real (and awesome), maybe that icon is used for mp3 :?
Posted by Vlammetje
it looks like a 'music' icon rather then specifially radio. Could be anything audio-related
Posted by mmsman
no the mp3 is below the radio.....
i guess they didn't had time to change a whole menu so they just left it.... or maybe they will include radio in the final release
Posted by mmsman
s700 preview!
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/4742.html
man why didn't i went to cebit
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Posted by swipe108
http://www.infosyncworld.com is also showing a lot of competition for our S700. Samsung is apparently out with a D710 that has series 60 interface. reminiscent of nokia's 7650 but looks like a great improvement over it.
would anyone who's over at CeBIT care to say how our S700 stacks up against the competition?
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Posted by Sutitan
http://www.clubsonyericsson.com/products/s700/s700_t610.jpg
Thats a picture for all the picture who complain that the S700 is a big fat. Thanks to club sonyericsson for the picture! Photo shop the 2 phones on top of each other and see what a small diffrence
Posted by chungagoring
thanks but it's not photoshop, it's a real live photo
Posted by dimitrivd
The picture below prooves that the Siemens S65 also has a 1.3 Megapixelcamera. I know it is Siemens but it looks awsome, even bethere lookin' then the K700.
Its a bit T610-looking.
The new Nokia 7610 even has a 3.7 Megapixel Camera, so we are not alone. And i must say, the Nokia is a bit weird but not ugly.
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Posted by McKinley
Looks like Sony Ericsson still have problem with their RF.
Take a look on those images from mobilmania.cz
It is very sad but I will still get one as soon as possible
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Its not a activate sim card, that's why !!!