Posted by Hawk12
Welcome everyone. Xperia rumors 2022. Feel free to post potential info and your wishlist .
This is from Fishing 8 on weibo. She seems very reliable, she always talking about many kind of electronics like TVs, cameras, cam lenses etc ..
" Next-generation mobile CIS: The mobile phone can shoot continuously at 120fps, including AE/AF.
Available speech skills: mobile phone stacks at 120fps per second, a dynamic range is 13 files, 120 frames can reach 20 files, image quality, speed, camera focusing in seconds."
11th Sept 2020 : she posted about a 12.3MP 1/1.31" 4:3 cmos with global shutter capable of 4K@160fps 12bit.
She does not say Xperia, but no other OEM cares about this , just Sony. There is no way to achieve all this unless global shutter.
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Posted by RacSony
Xperia IV protype looks like Glaxy S22 U?
https://sumahodigest.com/?p=3814
Posted by Hawk12
One of the potential S22U designs is loop design. I love omnibalance, but also love loop. XZ Premium was too stunning.
Posted by goldenface
Did anyone see that Lenovo Legion Play? What is Sony doing?
Posted by yuunanase
I am looking forward to a Xperia Pro II. The current one is nice, but seriously lacking Sub-6 bands. Definitely the best phone I have used (beasting 1iii) and extremely durable.
Posted by goldenface
Id'd be surprised if we see another Pro anytime soon. Unfortunately, at this stage it looks like just more of the same. I hope they have something exciting up their sleeve.
Posted by Hawk12
I want sony to make periscope with 70-200 like the GM lens.
Posted by tai020381
On 2021-10-09 01:33:56, Hawk12 wrote:
I want sony to make periscope with 70-200 like the GM lens.
Then AI Super resolution zoom up to 400mm! ~
Posted by Hawk12
It is weird that Photo Pro lets you use 300mm for 70mm cam, but basic mode use Super AI only from the 24mm. π
They also have a 70-400mm G. But would be too much to ask in limited space.
Posted by tai020381
On 2021-10-09 23:38:28, Hawk12 wrote:
It is weird that Photo Pro lets you use 300mm for 70mm cam, but basic mode use Super AI only from the 24mm. π
They also have a 70-400mm G. But would be too much to ask in limited space.
AI super resolution can also use on basic mode for both 70 mm and 105mm lens .
Posted by Hawk12
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4691080333234142
4 cameras. Are they really gonna remove true zoom in favor of two fixed focal lengths like she has said before? I really hope they keep zoom lens. Two periscopes would be killer setup.
There will be an announcement in two weeks. I have no idea what's about.
Zero clue if it is watch, phone or tablet.
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Posted by goldenface
New hardware to be announced on the 26th of this month.
It would be nice it it was to be in store before Christmas but I can't see it, unless they have made huge changes to their launch schedule. Hopefully it will make Mobile Wold Congress at the end of February, which is more likely.
I wonder what they have to show . . .
Posted by tai020381
From Zackbuks he state its a new high end product.
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Posted by Hawk12
Pro mark ii would be so unnecessary now. Looks like Xperia Russia Insta let escape it is cellphone. Deleted already.
Please, be a merge of RX100 and Xperia like someone suggested last year.
New device is XQ-BE72
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Posted by goldenface
If their compact camera sales are falling off, they need to come out fighting.
Posted by Hawk12
Not sure, but I think Cybershots count for 1/3 of all π·π₯ business sales (units sold). I wish they really could give to xperia the cam system of RX100 iv, but lens is 28mm thick while the cam is turned off.
Posted by goldenface
If their compact camera sales are falling off, they need to come out fighting.
Posted by Shino03
Looks like a high-midranger to me but will probably compete with the 5ii.
Posted by tai020381
From Zackbucks he stated its a new high end product and to announce it on global scale. So its probably Xperia pro II with liquid lens (rumored because the advertisement picture look like a lens ) , or curved sensor?
Update : its a phone.
https://sumahodigest.com/?p=3964
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Posted by yuunanase
The timing is correct for a Xperia Pro ii, but I doubt that it has anything to do with a liquid lens. Xperia Pro is about delivering pro tools to the pros, not gimmicky tools. Lets see what does it have up its sleeves.
Posted by XperiaX
On 2021-10-13 07:04:13, yuunanase wrote:
The timing is correct for a Xperia Pro ii, but I doubt that it has anything to do with a liquid lens. Xperia Pro is about delivering pro tools to the pros, not gimmicky tools. Lets see what does it have up its sleeves.
On the other hand, the "Pro" line should showcase their newest and finest camera technology, and not just be a copy of Xperia 1 with added pro-features.
I agree this new release is probably an update of the Pro and I think Sony should focus on features as below:
- Robust casing with full weather proofing. Already pretty OK with Xperia Pro I so only small changes.
- Brighter 4K OLED screen (1000 nits mode).
- Best available mobile camera tech including fast (20 FPS, 60 AF/AE), large Sony sensors on all cameras and latest technology.
- Camera Pro app should include better video support (Cinema pro is fine, but not always necessary to make a project etc.). Must include all video modes up to 4K 120 and offer full control of shutter speed, focus, S-LOG, seamless lens selection etc.
- Include a dedicated Bionz-X chip instead of the software version currently used. Fastest possible image calculations.
- Larger battery. Consider replaceable batteries but probably unlikely.
- 1 TB storage with fast direct WIFI transfer. Include support for fastest possible SD-cards.
- Optimized 5G with support for all protocols/bandwidths.
- Dedicated camera button (of course) and also a dedicated video button.
- Clean camera mode in software - i.e. all other apps than Camera running. No background data, phone or similar disturbance.
- More accessories: Dive casing, support for various mounts (like action camera), remote control, case with 1/4" screw etc.
- Full software support for >3 years.
- Allow for more image AI stuff in Auto mode (like Google Pixel). We are not all pro-photographers, so in most cases I would probably just point-shoot, so this auto mode should be more advanced and perhaps include scene selection (night mode, star mode, HDR etc.).
- Multiple microphones for improved sound recording.
Most of them are already included in e.g. A7-S III, so not impossible to implement.
Posted by cool_sauce
Don't hold your breath for anything revolutionary here. But it will be a nice incremental update nonetheless. Just be glad Xperia went from two global flagship phones back to three on annual basis like in XZ years.
Posted by Hawk12
Small pixels are not capable of high brightness.
I do not know why people complain now when 1, XZP and z5P had lower brightness than 1iii.
Why bring another flagship when they have issues to make current ones?
I hope this device is not a QHD version of 5iii with 256GB and Qi.
If the rumor of Mark 4 is true, main cam and ultra wide would be same specs of one+ 9 pro.
With two primes instead of zoom camera. I hope it has two zoom cameras and not two primes.
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Posted by Beeplots_11
new lens may not be liquid but fresnel lens https://sumahodigest.com/?p=3982
Posted by spektykles
Do you guys remember the XQ-BS72 model dropped some month ago?
Anyway, more than one device.
PDX-217 is in limited production and testing,so it should get on ppl hands quick after release, while the other one (PDX-216?) is still in "paper" and no real work yet, maybe for next year.
I heard Sony is very aggressive nowaday, they are prepared to axe any incoming developments if they no longer see it profitable. Like the story of killed PDX-205, promising device but very niche in a sense
Posted by Hawk12
Besides 10 Plus II, what other devices got canceled?
Posted by cool_sauce
On 2021-10-13 21:52:09, Hawk12 wrote:
Besides 10 Plus II, what other devices got canceled?
Deciphering their codes is easy now but that still doesn't give us the answers. Supposedly in 2020 the canceled model was 5(205) and that's rumored big 10II but it could easily be some canceled revision of 5II. In 2021 it gets even more complex as released phones start with number 3(213) which means 1 and 2 are either some Japanese regional models or some cancelled models altogehter like L5. There is no model 6(216) mentioned anywhere but there is model 7(217) which is supposed to be this device. Model 6 could have been Pro II reskin of 1 III (215) but then they migh have decided that's not good enough and they wanted to enhance it or change it even further so it became another dedicated model. That's just me speculating based off the fact that 1II is 203 and Pro is 204. There is a great chance 217 is based off 215 which means 4K flaghsip display.
Posted by spektykles
PDX-211 is the supposed "L5", spec almost like Ace II. Sony is too cheapass to just build a single phone (Ace II) on a new platform (Helio P35)
They always wanted to save R&D cost on new platform, build many model out of a platform as much possible. We might see more of P35 coming soon
"10 plus II" was never developed/doesnt exist, doesnt have a working hardware prototype, therefore not assigned a model number.
Sony Mobile are not keen on killing a incoming device with assigned model number/working prototype in the past. No matter how shitty they were they just keep working on it. I think (as far back to 2016), there was only one rare example of cancelled device, compact phone codename "Oak" with same platform as X compact (Snap 650).
But with the new team, profit first!
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Posted by Hawk12
I mention 10+ II because last year there were news about a device with SD720 canceled. I wish I could just see photos of prototypes that did not become final phone. π. Looking for profits, but they make Ace2 that is not gonna bring any. Because it is impossible for $210 phone with IP68, gorilla 6 on screen to give much per unit.
Posted by RacSony
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4692190201383999
is this some kind of hint about new device?
Posted by tai020381
On 2021-10-14 15:28:37, RacSony wrote:
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4692190201383999
is this some kind of hint about new device?
Yes he's hinting at xperia pro II ~
Posted by RacSony
On 2021-10-14 17:58:00, tai020381 wrote:
On 2021-10-14 15:28:37, RacSony wrote:
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4692190201383999
is this some kind of hint about new device?
Yes he's hinting at xperia pro II ~
OK, but how does replacing r with t indicate xperia pro II?
Posted by goldenface
Just what I was thinking.
Posted by Hawk12
I bet it is huge phone or tablet.
He says it is easy to type T instead of R. The keyboard, T is after R.
On the ipad, I often press M instead of N and space because screen is too big.
But it could indicate small screen as well, where keyboard is so tiny that you press T when you mean R.
Posted by goldenface
Ah, because the keyboard is so wide. That sort of makes sense. I'd like to see another Ultra sized device.
Posted by Hawk12
Someone's comment on XB tweet, claims the device has same modem used by 1iii.
There is screenshot of many folders (software stuff) and says PX-217 or something like that.
When you look close to Aquos R6 cam, you can see it externally looks spherical.
The teaser seems to be very close shot of it.
There is old rumor of single cam phone with 1" exmor or 1.1"... But midrange phone.
Posted by spektykles
yup, PDX-217 using 888+ and will be globally released.
Posted by Hawk12
Give any clue .. ππ»
Is it something like this? It is the phone of my dreams, but I want with LCD.
https://androidnext.info/?p=3272
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Posted by RacSony
On 2021-10-15 15:10:15, spektykles wrote:
yup, PDX-217 using 888+ and will be globally released.
how certain are you about SD888+?
Posted by spektykles
100%
Posted by Hawk12
The answer was to me or Rac? π€
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Posted by goldenface
I think Rac. That rumour is more likely.
Posted by Hawk12
888+ has zero advantage over 888.
X1 is 0,16GHz higher, what makes zero difference, except to generate more heat.
Posted by RacSony
On 2021-10-16 05:18:24, spektykles wrote:
100%
Thanks for confirmation.
How about more than 1 device rumors, XQ-BE72 and BS72? Is this also 100%?
Posted by spektykles
On 2021-10-16 20:31:57, RacSony wrote:
On 2021-10-16 05:18:24, spektykles wrote:
100%
Thanks for confirmation.
How about more than 1 device rumors, XQ-BE72 and BS72? Is this also 100%?
It is a bit complex, but at the upcoming launch only one will be introduced.
Anyway, Sony now running ads on Youtube with some "hints" on the new device(s), the video/ads itself is unlisted on the main YT channel. See if you can find them
Posted by Hawk12
How can I search if I do not know what to search? π
Posted by M-Ali
On official sony youtube 3 months ago there were videos of mobile image sensor with all pixel auto focus and just recently they unveiled their sony motion logo which is a lot reminiscent of the xperia poster
Posted by xpr
On 2021-10-17 07:24:50, spektykles wrote:
On 2021-10-16 20:31:57, RacSony wrote:
On 2021-10-16 05:18:24, spektykles wrote:
100%
Thanks for confirmation.
How about more than 1 device rumors, XQ-BE72 and BS72? Is this also 100%?
It is a bit complex, but at the upcoming launch only one will be introduced.
Anyway, Sony now running ads on Youtube with some "hints" on the new device(s), the video/ads itself is unlisted on the main YT channel. See if you can find them
We have to search for ads? Is this a new kind of stupid on behalf of Sony?
I wonder how many months will pass this time until one can actually get this new device.
[ This Message was edited by: xpr on 2021-10-17 13:22 ]
Posted by Hawk12
689/766/789 are all pixel AF.
Those with 2x2 OCL.
BBK is just not good enough to use all sensor has to offer.
Posted by spektykles
On 2021-10-17 08:25:36, xpr wrote:
On 2021-10-17 07:24:50, spektykles wrote:
On 2021-10-16 20:31:57, RacSony wrote:
On 2021-10-16 05:18:24, spektykles wrote:
100%
Thanks for confirmation.
How about more than 1 device rumors, XQ-BE72 and BS72? Is this also 100%?
It is a bit complex, but at the upcoming launch only one will be introduced.
Anyway, Sony now running ads on Youtube with some "hints" on the new device(s), the video/ads itself is unlisted on the main YT channel. See if you can find them
We have to search for ads? Is this a new kind of stupid on behalf of Sony?
I wonder how many months will pass this time until one can actually get this new device.
[ This Message was edited by: xpr on 2021-10-17 13:22 ]
Im just saying, if you want everything on a silver plate, wait until the annoucement. No one forces you. However if you want to be the fastest, you gotta go extra mile for them. Dont complaint, Im just tipping you guys.