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Sony Xperia 5 Announced


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Posted by DarkKrypt
Sony Xperia 5 (5th September 2019)
Specifications
Link:https://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/phones/xperia-5/specifications/?utm_version=newsony
Black

Grey

Blue

Red




Memory and storage
6GB RAM
microSDXC support (up to 512GB)
128GB UFS memory1

SIM capability
Single SIM
Dual SIM2
Nano SIM

Operating System Android™ 9 Pie3
Processor (CPU) Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 855 Mobile Platform4
Battery 3140mAh
Xperia Adaptive Charging

Battery Care
Smart Stamina
Stamina Mode
USB Power Delivery (USB PD) fast charging

Durability
Water resistant (IP65/68)5
Corning® Gorilla®Glass 6

Weight 164g
Dimensions 158 x 68 x 8.2mm

Colour Black Blue Grey Red

Display
21:9 CinemaWideTM display6
6.1" FHD+ HDR OLED (1080 x 2520)
Creator mode "powered by CineAlta" - Inspired by Master Monitor colour reproduction
X1TM for mobile
DCI-P3 100%
BT.2020 (REC.2020) colour space7

Supported image formats: JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP, WebP, WBMP, HEIF, DNG, CR2, NEF, NRW, ARW, RW2, ORF, RAF, PEF, SRW
Supported video formats: MPEG-4 Video, H.263, H.264, H.265, VP8, VP9
10 bit tonal gradation8

Main camera Triple lens camera system 12MP + 12MP + 12MP
Super wide-angle
2x optical zoom

12MP 26mm
Exmor RSTM for mobile
1/2.6” sensor size
Pixel pitch 1.4μm
F1.6 lens
OIS photo stabilization
Hybrid OIS/EIS video stabilization

12MP 16mm
1/3.4" sensor size
Pixel pitch 1.0μm
F2.4 lens
SteadyShot™ with Intelligent Active Mode (5-axis stablization)

12MP 52mm
1/3.4" sensor size
Pixel pitch 1.0μm
F2.4 lens
OIS photo stabilization
Hybrid OIS/EIS video stabilization

Camera features
Cinema Pro "powered by CineAlta" – 21:9 movie recording
Look colour management pre-sets
4K HDR movie recording9
BIONZ XTM for mobile
RAW noise reduction
Eye AF10
Up to 10fps AF/AE11
Dual photo diode
RGBC-IR sensor
SteadyShotTM
2x optical zoom
5x digital zoom
HDR (High Dynamic Range) photo
Hybrid Autofocus
3D Creator
Bokeh effect

Front camera 8MP
1/4 sensor size
Pixel pitch 1.12μm
F2.0 lens
HDR (High Dynamic Range) photo
SteadyShotTM with Intelligent Active Mode (5-axis stablization)
Portrait selfie effects
Display flash
3D Creator
Hand and Smile Shutter

Networks
J8210, J8270, J9210 GSM GPRS/EDGE (2G) Bands 850/900/1800/1900 / UMTS HSPA+ (3G) Bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 19 / LTE (4G) 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 32, 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46, 66
J8210: LTE(4G) Cat19/Cat13, J8270: LTE(4G) Cat19/Cat13, J9210: LTE(4G) Cat19/Cat13 with single SIM, Cat18/Cat13 with dual SIM
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n(2.4GHz)/n(5GHz)/ac

Connectivity
A-GNSS (GPS + GLONASS)12
Bluetooth® 5.0 wireless technology
Google Cast
NFC
USB 3.1
USB Type-CTM
Output video/image via Display Port support TypeC Cable or USB-C to HDMI Adapter Cable (Display Port 4K 60 fps)

Sensors
Accelerometer
Ambient light sensor
Barometer sensor
eCompassTM
Fingerprint sensor
Game rotation vector
Geomagnetic rotation vector
Gyroscope
Hall sensor
Magnetometer
Step counter
Step detector
Significant motion detector
Proximity sensor
RGBC-IR sensor

Sound
Dolby Atmos®
Stereo speaker
High-Resolution Audio, High-Resolution Audio Wireless (Supported audio fomats: LPCM, FLAC, ALAC, DSD) 13
LDAC13
DSEE HXTM
Stereo Recording
Qualcomm® aptXTM HD audio14
Supported audio fomats: AAC (AAC-LC, AAC+, eAAC+, AAC-ELD), ALAC, AMR-NB, AMR-WB, DSD, FLAC, MIDI, MP3, PCM, Opus, Vorbis, WMA

Entertainment
PS4 Remote Play
Game Enhancer
Dynamic Vibration System
[ This Message was edited by: DarkKrypt on 2019-09-09 13:57 ]



Posted by DarkKrypt
Hands on as per conbutts link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0YJKxUMXRI

Posted by Hawk12
Besides 960fps, anything else removed compared to x1?

Posted by DarkKrypt
Can't tell but here's specs wise comparison via gsmarena.

https://m.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9840&idPhone2=9543

Posted by DarkKrypt
Gained band 25 and 34
(~80.9% screen-to-body ratio) vs 82%

128GB 6GB RAM no 64gb version
Back Cameras are the exact same, but gsmarena is saying 1080p@960fps hmm.
Selfie same cam



Posted by goldenface
Nice to see the return of the Compact but no mention of the Super Slo Motion on the official website.

Posted by DarkKrypt
@goldenface
Exactly what I mean gsmarena says 960fps
But official site doesn't, unless gsmarena is just assuming because of exact same specs...

Posted by rubik_cat
Seems like Sony use lower level Exmor RS sensor on 5.

No memory stack, No dual photo diode, No Optical SteadyShot™ No H.265 on 4K recording

Posted by napahlm

On 2019-09-05 13:31:15, goldenface wrote:
Nice to see the return of the Compact but no mention of the Super Slo Motion on the official website.



Its not a Compact. It is still a huge phone. Slim it down aditional 10% to 143x62 mm. Then maybe, just maybe, I'll be intressted. Ideal, i think, would be 136x59 mm (additional 5% decrease) thats when we talk almost Xperia Ray size (111x53). Wich is still to this day the best one hand held phone i ever had. I do miss it sometimes and take it out just to look at it. Absoluty stunning.
[ This Message was edited by: napahlm on 2019-09-05 13:30 ]


Posted by goldenface
You're right, of course, but it is 'Compact' compared to it's older sibling.

Posted by profyler
nothing compact...

yawn...

Posted by Ppl
https://youtu.be/OPEPNYrycvM

Xperia 5 promo video. I like it, even the product page is more dynamic with clips from this. I think it looks better than Xperia 1. X5 is more symmetrical on the front and the back glass is less curvy. The grey option looks better too. Pricing will make or break this phone. At 800 it doesn't have a chance imo.

Posted by cableguy
Pity they didn't make it a 5G phone, it would have been good for PR

Posted by Ppl
https://youtu.be/vS2AvgHPL1U?t=35

X5 next to XZ1 Compact.

Posted by sidneylopsides

On 2019-09-05 14:25:25, rubik_cat wrote:
Seems like Sony use lower level Exmor RS sensor on 5.

No memory stack, No dual photo diode, No Optical SteadyShot™ No H.265 on 4K recording


Dual photo diode is mentioned in the camera features, as is OIS for the 26 and 52mm lenses.

Posted by Hawk12
From Mr Buks

· Xperia 1 has a higher screen size and Xperia 5 has a smaller screen size
· Xperia 1 does not support 30fps continuous exposure calculation
· Xperia 5 does not support 960fps ultra slow motion (CMOS changed)
· Xperia 1 battery is 3330mAh, Xperia 5 battery is 3140mAh

Other software feature differences should be aligned after the upgrade
If you want a small size phone, you can wait for it. 5
If you want to buy a Sony flagship, or Xperia 1
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-09-06 02:02 ]


Posted by Tsepz_GP
Just to ensure I fully understand, the Xperia 5 is a lesser version of Xperia 1?
Or are they meant to be variants?


Naming convention is all over the place here.

Posted by badassmam
So, this phone is more narrow than the S10 but taller. One would probably say that the it's probably as good as the S10 which is around the same price. It should've been OnePlus 7 price because let's be honest, the only reason you get this over the Xperia 1 is the smaller size. Flipping S10E is the king of compact phones this year.

Xperia 5 is decent but too expensive and no way compact. Would be interesting to know S10+, S10 and S10E sales against each other to know if there is a market there or not.

Posted by Ppl

On 2019-09-05 22:10:12, Hawk12 wrote:
From Mr Buks

· Xperia 1 has a higher screen size and Xperia 5 has a smaller screen size
· Xperia 1 does not support 30fps continuous exposure calculation
· Xperia 5 does not support 960fps ultra slow motion (CMOS changed)
· Xperia 1 battery is 3330mAh, Xperia 5 battery is 3140mAh

Other software feature differences should be aligned after the upgrade
If you want a small size phone, you can wait for it. 5
If you want to buy a Sony flagship, or Xperia 1
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-09-06 02:02 ]



1080p low Hz display
No wireless charging
No jack
Flat screen without cuts or holes or anything that'd make the manufacturing harder/pricier
Plain old fingerprint sensor
No infrared face unlock or even an autofocus front camera that lacks 4K recording (low mp)

Yet they charge $800? Aside from aspect ratio this phone is not unique.
Without the earbuds it's not worth it. They should have priced it 750 max without the buds. I'm pretty sure I'll hear reviews say "It's a good phone but at that price it's hard to recommend. This and that is cheaper with more features. etc." If they could they should price it 699, so it's a good deal and people would be willing to try something new.

Posted by cableguy
Anyone know a website that sells cases for the Xperia 5?
None on ebay or amazon

Posted by goldenface
I like the leather ones on the Sony Website but I'm guessing they'll be about £50.

Posted by M-Ali
Since there is no dram in xperia 5 that means there is no predictive capture

Posted by Hawk12
Type xperia 2 case on amazon.
There is one.
From Avalri
$12.99

Does it really use frost/matte glass?
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-09-07 16:26 ]


Posted by Ppl
https://sumahoinfo.com/?p=34742

850 euros.

Even with the buds that's a hard sell.

Posted by Hawk12
€800 in France and Finland + buds
€850 in Germany + buds
$800 in USA
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-09-10 11:22 ]


Posted by profyler
ridiculously expensive


Posted by badassmam
Yes expensive but this is the strategy now, make fewer and sell at higher price to maximise profits. I think the Xperia 1 sold well last quarter so Sony won't lose as much this year. Obviously the Xperia 10 and Plus are total bullshit devices which is why first quarter results were terrible.

I'm really considering the Xperia 5 but my brain is telling me to wait until it's similar pricing to the Galaxy S10E before I can justify buying it. The S10E is great in the hand and the 5 is more narrow so you might just call it a Compact.

Posted by Hawk12
Only $50 more than s10e was released.
Well, considering iphone 11 pro 64Gb costs €300 more in Germany.
Not that bad.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-09-10 19:51 ]


Posted by badassmam
You can get Xperia 1 for around £600 and S10E £500 on Ebay, new and unlocked so those are good prices, when the Xperia 5 comes down to £500 I'll go for it. My worry is that it becomes rare like the XZ2 Compact, I've had two of these both for £400 each.

Posted by sidneylopsides
The 1 is currently £606 on O2 UK, and £640 from EE UK.

The 5 has to be like £500 to make sense.

Posted by yuunanase
Of course! I got the 1 for €560 on launch day, so I expect 5 to be €500.

Posted by cableguy
Pre-order open in Sony France
https://estore.sonymobile.com[....]wf-1000xm3-black-de-fr-319063/
800€ "Sony Xperia 5 & Free WF-1000XM3" , spotted its the dual sim version
* will be shipped from 18 October 2019

I eventually ordered a case from amazon uk , it was hard to find them, maybe as there wasnt too many there.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TERR[....]68195772&s=gateway&sr=8-3&th=1
[ This Message was edited by: cableguy on 2019-09-11 08:58 ]


Posted by Hawk12
It is $200 cheaper than iphone 11 pro, still it wont sell more than 1%.
That is too sad.
😰


X5 = ufs 3.0 ☺️
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-09-11 12:42 ]


Posted by badassmam
The iPhone 11 Pro camera software is so sick, I'm truly amazed by all the options you have. Multi camera recording is madness, now YouTube videos are going to have video and reaction in one. The Xperia camera interface looks so dated in comparison. Since there's no super slow motion they better add a standard flipping slow motion.

Posted by RacSony
looks like Xperia 5 has UFS 3.0
https://sumahoinfo.com/?p=34846

Posted by DentyCracker
Gonna be hard to give up the super slo mo even though I only used it occasionally. Probably going to have to get the 1 instead when that price comes down

Posted by Hawk12
I did not like when they changed the UI of cam for XZ3.
I prefer the one brought with android 5.1.

Up/down or left/right depending on how you are holding it.
And diagonal for rear/front.

Anyone noticed that rear panel of X5 is flat while X1 is 2.5 or 3D?

I do not know if I posted one link here or another topic.
Article says they will keep xperia, no matter how much money they lose.


I hope for 2020, midranges use same design of flagships.
Just with simpler shell. Plastic or metal.
Like they did with M4, M5 and X.

Posted by RacSony

On 2019-09-11 15:34:23, Hawk12 wrote:

I do not know if I posted one link here or another topic.
Article says they will keep xperia, no matter how much money they lose.



I don't think you posted the link. I'd like to read that article.

Posted by Ppl
https://youtu.be/UVpFV5Rcuh4
Face in app
Used front and back cameras for photos and videos
https://youtu.be/plccAO7V0CI
Multi Camera app
Used for pairing other phones to record or capture multiple angles. I thought this was very cool at the time but I guess it didn't take off.

And notice how old these are.

Posted by Hawk12
@rac This is the source of the article I read.

https://www.smartdroid.de/xpe[....]hones-weil-sie-es-tun-muessen/


This is about some new stuff X5 has.
New features of Cinema Pro.
https://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/5404649/1/
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-09-13 21:01 ]


Posted by Tibagy
Sony Xperia 5 - Compact REVIVAL Or FAIL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTgwhZBD__g

Sony Xperia 5: But Why ?!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvWuwhr15H8

Posted by cableguy
Good news I see sony France preorder date is October 2
Bad news is that you only get a case instead of the headphones

Posted by cableguy
Pre-order on clove is up , free headphones for the first 40
https://www.clove.co.uk/products/sony-xperia-5

Posted by Hawk12
GSMArena gave 4,4 ..
It scores 96h on their batery test.
They are so bias, did not even bother to show what new stuff CP has.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-09-18 17:49 ]


Posted by Ppl
They didn't put samples for X5 in their comparison tool either. (Gsmarena)

That's weird. Review looks rushed. Maybe since it is very similar to 1 they just wanted to get over with it or something.

But 96h is great.

Posted by sidneylopsides
I've got my 5. Its blue. Not had chance to do much with it yet, but the tweaks to Game Enhancer are good. Changing it to the bar that then hides itself, but is easy to pull down and grab a screenshot is nice.

Cinema Pro has been tweaked, the auto focus pull is nice. Not much else to report yet.

Most UK Retailers will be doing the headphones, and the big ones will have a lot more than 40 or 75.

Posted by badassmam
@sidneylopsides

Congrats, UK doesn't get blue until November according to Clove. We know it doesn't have 960fps slow mo but does it have any other slow mo mode?

Posted by sidneylopsides
I'm pretty sure CPW Will have it in blue from launch.

It has the old basic 120fps slow motion. That's all.

Posted by badassmam
@sidneylopsides

Thanks. I think I'm going to get one this Christmas actually.

Posted by cableguy
Pre-order open on Sony UK/IE
https://estore.sonymobile.com[....]wf-1000xm3-black-uk-ie-319068/
£700 includes free WF-1000XM3


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