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Sony Xperia XZ2 Premium Announced


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Posted by Tibagy


Sony Xperia XZ2 Premium Key Features:

- 3G Network: HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 

- 4G Network: LTE 700 / 800 / 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 

- Single SIM (Nano-SIM) Or Hybrid Dual SIM (Nano-SIM, Dual Stand-By) 

- Connectivity: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Dual Band, DLNA, Wi - Fi Direct, Wi - Fi HotSpot, Bluetooth v5.0 With A2DP/LE/APT-X HD, NFC, MicroUSB v3.1 And Type-C 1.0 (Reversible Connector) 

- GPS With A-GPS Support, Glonass 

- Dimensions: 158 x 80 x 11.9 mm

- Weight: 236 Grams. 

- Display 5.8" IPS LCD UltraHD (~760 PPI Pixel Density) With HDR 10, With Triluminos Display, X-Reality Engine, Dynamic Contrast Enhancement And Corning Gorilla Glass 5 (On Front And Back) 

- 64 GigaBytes Memory Internal (UFS 2.1) 

- Expansive Memory Up To 400 GigaBytes 

- 6 GigaBytes Ram LPDDR4X

- CPU Qualcomm Snapdragon 845 Kyro 385 Gold Quad Core (2.80 GHz) And Kyro 385 Silver Quad Core (1.77 GHz) 
(SemiConductor Technology 10 nm LPP) 

- GPU Adreno 630 (Octa - Core Graphics @800 MHz) 

- Android 8.0 (Oreo) With Sony UI 

- Office Document Viewer (Word, Excel, PowerPoint And Reader PDF)

- Dual Camera Motion Eye System 19.1 MP + 12.1 MP (RGB + Monocrome) With EIS (5-Axis Stablization), AUBE™ (Fusion Image Signal Processor), BIONZ Mobile (Image Processor), Triple Image Sensing Technology And Led Flash 

- CamCorder UltraHD (2160p @30 FPS) With EIS (5-Axis Stabilization), 4K HDR Mode And Super Slow Motion HD (1080p @960 FPS) 

- 13 MP Front Facing Camera Wide Angle Lens With EIS (5-Axis Stabilization), Auto Focus, Display Flash And CamCorder FullHD (1080p @30 FPS) 

- FingerPrint Sensor Reader (Rear-Mounted) 

- PS4™ Remote Play 

- Stereo Speaker With S-Force Front Surround 

- Active Noise Cancellation With Dedicated Mic 

- IP65/IP68 Certified (Dust/Water Proof Over 1.5 Meter And 30 Minutes) 

- Standard Battery Li-Ion 3540 mAh (Non-Removable) With Fast Battery Charging: 50% In 36 Min (Quick Charge 3.0) 

- Available In Chrome Black And Chrome Silver Colors


[ This Message was edited by: Tibagy on 2018-04-18 03:45 ]



Posted by Tibagy
Video Promo

https://youtu.be/T2zMOFB6wSM
[ This Message was edited by: Tibagy on 2018-04-16 08:30 ]


Posted by Tibagy
Sony Xperia XZ2 Premium Arrives With Dual Cameras And 4K HDR Screen

https://www.gsmarena.com/sony[....]s_4k_hdr_screen-news-30550.php

Posted by Tibagy
Sony Xperia XZ2 Premium: Overview

https://www.sonymobile.com/gl[....]cts/phones/xperia-xz2-premium/
[ This Message was edited by: Tibagy on 2018-04-16 08:35 ]


Posted by Tibagy
Amazing... Amazing

Posted by herasymcuk
FM Radio With RDS ????

Posted by miromiromi
Still no OIS?

Posted by vivftp

On 2018-04-16 11:20:30, miromiromi wrote:
Still no OIS?


With its faster camera and better low light capabilities, it might not require OIS. We'll have to wait for hands on of course...

Posted by miromiromi
Oh come on. It's 2018 already.
This phone is THICKER than most similar phones and still can't pack an OIS.

OIS makes for greater photos. That's a proven fact.

Posted by vivftp

On 2018-04-16 16:11:10, miromiromi wrote:
Oh come on. It's 2018 already.
This phone is THICKER than most similar phones and still can't pack an OIS.

OIS makes for greater photos. That's a proven fact.


While true, if the new camera can increase the shutter speed and compensate with a higher ISO then it should be able to achieve the same thing without OIS.

BTW, When's the OP gonna update the picture? lol
[ This Message was edited by: vivftp on 2018-04-16 16:12 ]


Posted by Vipera ammodytes
High iso on such a small sensor, good luck with that.

Posted by ADIDA
first photo is not XZ2 Premium..........

Posted by vivftp

On 2018-04-16 18:43:09, Vipera ammodytes wrote:
High iso on such a small sensor, good luck with that.



High ISO on 2 different sensors working in tandem with a dedicated image signal processing chip, it should be interesting. I'd suggest waiting for real world examples before making judgement because I would find it hard to believe Sony would heavily push this new camera tech and its capabilities if it were utter garbage.

I don't expect to see perfectly clean pictures at ISO 51,200, but if it's capable of taking half decent quality images in conditions that other smartphones can't touch, then that's a great selling point. I'm hoping this does for smartphones what the A7S did for full frame cameras.

Posted by milanelo
Too heavy, no headphone jack, no buy from me.

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Good grief! 236g!? What is running in that thing, a coal mine? That's heavier than the 6.4inch Xperia Z Ultra.

This has to be kind of awkward for those who just bought the recently XZ2 though.

All the best Sony.



Posted by McKinley

On 2018-04-16 18:50:32, ADIDA wrote:
first photo is not XZ2 Premium..........


Captain Obvious stating the obvious....

Posted by DarkKrypt
Saw this posted either on gsmarena or phone arena
Eis Vs ois

xz Vs s7

Can only imagine the newest phones

Gotta love comparisons, every phone has wins and opportunities ~
[ This Message was edited by: DarkKrypt on 2018-04-17 12:31 ]


Posted by Tibagy
Sony Xperia XZ2 Premium – The Ultimate Creation Machine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=zq6iOiZHXVs

Posted by Tibagy
The Xperia XZ2 Premium Is Sony's First Dual Camera Smartphone, Can Shoot ISO 51200 : -o

https://www.dpreview.com/news[....]s-first-dual-camera-smartphone

Posted by Tibagy
Sony Xperia XZ2 Premium By PhotographyBlog

www.photographyblog.com/news/sony_xperia_xz2_premium

Posted by aussieland1
Is the extra weight due to the camera ? The camera better be as amazing as they say it is . I don't really like the trend with the phones increasing in weight (hopefully as technology evolves , it will go back to 160-180 grams ).

Also it is a shame that XZ premium 2 doesn't have a larger screen . With XZ2 having a 5.8 already it seems like they could have differentiated them a bit more by going with a larger screen on XZ premium 2 . Will be interesting to see how well it sells - hopefully it will do well

Posted by Tsepz_GP

On 2018-04-18 06:37:00, aussieland1 wrote:
Is the extra weight due to the camera ? The camera better be as amazing as they say it is . I don't really like the trend with the phones increasing in weight (hopefully as technology evolves , it will go back to 160-180 grams ).

Also it is a shame that XZ premium 2 doesn't have a larger screen . With XZ2 having a 5.8 already it seems like they could have differentiated them a bit more by going with a larger screen on XZ premium 2 . Will be interesting to see how well it sells - hopefully it will do well


Sony is going for that "WTF" Factor this year

There is a whole lot of WTF with their phones, from the announcement timing to their size, weight as well as the removal of the 3.5mm jack, oh and the screen real estate is quite the zinger to.

Weight wise the XZ2 is at 198g, while the larger XZ2 Premium is at a monstrous 236g, that is Nokia 9500 Communicator (Keyboard and 2 screens running 2 different OSs and all) territory.

In terms of thickness the XZ2 is 11.1 and the XZ2 Premium is 11.9mm, that is HTC Desire (2010 Android Flagship) territory with the much larger 45nm chipsets.

I'm terms of screen is where I am also baffled, the XZ2 has a 18:9 5.7inch display, while the XZ2 Premium uses a 16:9 5.8inch Display, hence the shorter more squaty look of the XZ2P, it looks more like a 2017 Sony flagship with thicker Bezels.

One would assume that Sony would have given the XZ2 Premium the slimmer Bezels to make the 4K display more Immersive, they could have put a 6.3inch display in that body. The Huawei Mate10 (NOT Pro), fits a 5.9inch display in a much smaller and lighter body
See below


Anyways, the XZ2 Premium looks great in this colour I must say shame about its overall build though



Posted by McKinley
All I want to see is its camera capabilities. That fusion chip better do wonder to justify that extra weight.


Posted by nikola1970
But hey, Sony has Vibration system that vibrates while you watch videos!

Looks like their designers and enginers are not capable, and probably all the great ones already work for Apple, Samsung, Huawei... Sony as a mobile brand is nothing more then some Motorola, HTC, you name any other shitty brand, and I am really convinced in that after this XZ2P design fiasco.

Only worth thing from Sony about their mobile business are their camera sensors, which ironically produce better photos when taken with non Sony phones.
[ This Message was edited by: nikola1970 on 2018-04-18 17:15 ]


Posted by Tsepz_GP

On 2018-04-18 18:14:01, nikola1970 wrote:
But hey, Sony has Vibration system that vibrates while you watch videos!

Looks like their designers and enginers are not capable, and probably all the great ones already work for Apple, Samsung, Huawei... Sony as a mobile brand is nothing more then some Motorola, HTC, you name any other shitty brand, and I am really convinced in that after this XZ2P design fiasco.

Only worth thing from Sony about their mobile business are their camera sensors, which ironically produce better photos when taken with non Sony phones.
[ This Message was edited by: nikola1970 on 2018-04-18 17:15 ]



In all honesty? Sony are fully capable of designing the best flagship out there, they have the talent.

My guess is Sony is trying "buck the trend" and standout, it's a noble move by them, this is the same company that gave us the gorgeous Xperia Arc, they know how to design slim svelte devices.

Posted by badassmam
I don't think they are capable of cramming the hardware into a small body, its like they are not smart enough. Sure they can make pretty devices but certain ideas don't work. This curved body with thick glass back is heavy and I bet there is lots of free space in there, they could've easily added a audio jack. Then the vibration thing, a bit pointless actually. I know design is subjective but the XZ2 Compact is an example of when they tried to fit everything into a smaller body and you saw how that ended up, I think its hideous and perhaps showcases Sony's current capability. I certainly would take a thick bezel XZ and XZ1 over anything ambient flow and why they didn't swap the XZ2 and XA2 designs over is amazing, XA2 looks so much better.

Having said all that, it looks like its going to be one of the best devices this year but I should expect a premium design with a premium spec and premium price.


Posted by McKinley
Yeah I hope the abolish the vibration sounds for the next year or even by IFA. No one really seem to care too much about that feature. People care more about slim bezels and photo quality.

Posted by Shino03
To be honest I think Sony is going on the right direction camera-wise.
Not a camera expert but high-iso sensitivity is better than OIS in terms of night photography based on my experience. OIS + low iso would definitely prevent handblur but any movement and your picture would be a disaster, same thing I guess for Aperture.

Posted by yuunanase
Wow, so much bashing on an unreleased device. How many of you actually hold a Xz2 in hand? I have been using it as my daily driver for almost a month now replacing the XZ Premium and XA1 ultra, and other than the weight, there is nothing to complain. And it's not like you will feel the thickness of the phone. When you are holding a phone, the gap between your hand and the phone is still there, so in fact, all you feel is the 6mm thickness. And the imbalanced position of the speakers has no effect in audio quality what so ever.

I must also say, the camera impressed me most. It actually beast out a iPhone X and Note 8 easily with its colour and details. I only wish it has OIS though.

It is definately a better phone than the XZP.
[ This Message was edited by: yuunanase on 2018-04-20 14:43 ]


Posted by Luca-S
You always find the same people talking bs about Sony phones... Is this a coincidence?

Posted by badassmam
@yuunanase

Of course you'll be impressed with the XZ2, its way more compact than your previous phones plus its a flagship so yes, enjoy.

Assuming the XZ2 Premium has the best camera in the market, you still have the same complaints so either you convince the masses its fine to be thick and have bezels or you make the change. Its one or the other like Arsene Wenger leaving Arsenal, you have to make the decision.

Posted by DentyCracker
Thanks for the memories Arsene. Happy Arsenal fan here. If I hadn't bought XZP in November I would be all in for XZ2 or XZ2P

Posted by doministry
My next phone for sure!

Posted by tai020381
Any real life day and low light photo samples from XZ2 premium?

Posted by doministry

On 2018-04-23 05:48:28, tai020381 wrote:
Any real life day and low light photo samples from XZ2 premium?

??? The phone is NOT out yet. Nobody has it.

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Did any reviewers get any sort of unit to unbox or do hands-on with this device?

Checking the usual Android Authoirty, Android Central, Mr.Mobile, Android Police, TechRadar, GadgetMatch, The Verge, GSM Arena, PhoneArena, etc etc... yields nothing.

Weird.

Any word on launch e.g. in the UK or US?


Posted by McKinley

On 2018-04-23 17:07:18, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Did any reviewers get any sort of unit to unbox or do hands-on with this device?

Checking the usual Android Authoirty, Android Central, Mr.Mobile, Android Police, TechRadar, GadgetMatch, The Verge, GSM Arena, PhoneArena, etc etc... yields nothing.

Weird.

Any word on launch e.g. in the UK or US?




I start to believe Sony don't believe in their products or care too much for them, except from Playstation.
It seems there hasn't been a single XZ2 Premium sent out for review or even preview.
They only seem to do this kind of BS announcement to keep their shareholders happy.

Sony try to cut way too many corners. It goes for the television department as well.
I own the X930E TV. It is an impressive set with shitty SoC that makes the ui experience f'ed up slow at times. The remote controller is the same one I had with the previous TV from four years ago. Uninspired and outdated in terms of look; almost like their phones.
Even with updates, there just seem to be little to no interests in getting it right. For anyone with high-end TV from Sony, know what kind of fiasco update I'm thinking of.

Posted by doministry

On 2018-04-23 17:07:18, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Did any reviewers get any sort of unit to unbox or do hands-on with this device?

Checking the usual Android Authoirty, Android Central, Mr.Mobile, Android Police, TechRadar, GadgetMatch, The Verge, GSM Arena, PhoneArena, etc etc... yields nothing.

Weird.

Any word on launch e.g. in the UK or US?



When the product will be ready they will get it. As easy as that.

Posted by badassmam
The problem with this announcement is that nobody got a hands on demo to at the very least take some photos with the dual camera therefore, there is nothing to talk about and no hype to generate. Had they given 5 or 10 journalists some time with it you would easily get something circulating online: 'While the software was far from complete, the XZ2P camera is a significant upgrade on the already very capable XZ2. We can't wait to get our hands on the finished product'. A very small statement like that would make a big difference, its not like the XZ2P can sell itself like Infinity War which people have been waiting 2/3 years for.

Posted by Tsepz_GP

On 2018-04-27 13:05:07, doministry wrote:

On 2018-04-23 17:07:18, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Did any reviewers get any sort of unit to unbox or do hands-on with this device?

Checking the usual Android Authoirty, Android Central, Mr.Mobile, Android Police, TechRadar, GadgetMatch, The Verge, GSM Arena, PhoneArena, etc etc... yields nothing.

Weird.

Any word on launch e.g. in the UK or US?



When the product will be ready they will get it. As easy as that.



So they announced a product that was not even ready to be demoed by journalists. Very strange.

This reminds me of the Idou/Satio.

Posted by vdZG_
news for some in asia.
there will be new colors of xperia xz2 and xz2 premium (not sure about XZ2C) for some asian market such as taiwan, japan (ntt and kddi).

don't know specific color, but for japan, each phone carrier seems to be releasing its own color exclusively.


Posted by tai020381
I was thinking is Sony doing this (minimize the marketing and the buzz ) on deliberate so as to save the best for the upcoming true "mirai" and broadcast and surprise the world (which they are always good at ,less the marketing )

Posted by DarkKrypt
I was just thinking , Could they be delaying to get the software All working correct, 'bokeh, 'portrait' 'b&w' high iso and balance etc etc cause I'm wanting to change up now to Sony again (the Xiaomi redmi 5 plus has been a good temp phone but the Sony and Sony ui i miss dearly,
The sooner the xz2p comes out the better though I am trying to hold until September

Posted by moogoo
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[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2018-05-13 12:32 ]


Posted by yuunanase
Finally, a working sample of XZ2 Premium!

https://japanese.engadget.com/2018/05/14/xperia-xz2-premium-video/

Posted by DarkKrypt
Can someone screenshot the Engadget Japanese video of the camera in action solo and Vs the xz below it and upload it here as I'm not on a pc.
Cheers

Posted by Tizzo

[ This Message was edited by: Tizzo on 2018-05-15 04:47 ]


Posted by DarkKrypt
Cheers tizzo ~

Posted by mrjulius
Welcome back to me. Hi guys. This will be my next phone hehehe XZ Premium user here

Posted by yuunanase
So the release date of Docomo XZ2P will be on 1st Aug.


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