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Sony Ericsson 8.1MP C905 Discussion (Shiho)


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Posted by C905
As I see it, this phone is clearly a winner if only none of the other manufacturers are going to release a 8MP phone in the near future and if the price of C905 is at an acceptable level

[ This Message was edited by: C905 on 2008-06-18 20:54 ]


Posted by _vAmpiRe_
Yes... Let's cross our fingers for no delays on this one...

Posted by naveedaziz83
how can this b tht sony releases a new phone packed with new technology and nokia or other brands dnt follow

happened in the past on a number of ocassions

xenon flash
accelorometer
3.2 mp phone ( correct me if im wrong on this)
and now 8 mp cam phone.

im sure nokia and samsung have somthing up their sleeves and going to b announced soon

Posted by Luci'sPower
i just hope SE will win the battle this year..........and don't lose to nokia again

Posted by C905

On 2008-06-18 22:11:19, Luci'sPower wrote:
i just hope SE will win the battle this year..........and don't lose to nokia again

I hope SE will win the battle this year aswell

Posted by Guto_ViP
I hope too, but only if SE incluse a good OS, VGA camcorder and good lens... or Nokia will wins again...

Posted by G-Izzat
's OS are great already, aren't they?

Posted by C905

On 2008-06-18 22:49:36, G-Izzat wrote:
's OS are great already, aren't they?

Yep it's the best out there

Posted by Guto_ViP

On 2008-06-18 22:50:35, C905 wrote:

On 2008-06-18 22:49:36, G-Izzat wrote:
's OS are great already, aren't they?

Yep it's the best out there


need better program... i mean about GPS... SE need a program like a Garmin Mobile XT, this program is amazing...

Have a lot of another program good, but doesnt work on SE OS....

Posted by C905

On 2008-06-18 23:26:05, Guto_ViP wrote:

On 2008-06-18 22:50:35, C905 wrote:

On 2008-06-18 22:49:36, G-Izzat wrote:
's OS are great already, aren't they?

Yep it's the best out there


need better program... i mean about GPS... SE need a program like a Garmin Mobile XT, this program is amazing...

Have a lot of another program good, but doesnt work on SE OS....


What about Wayfinder? That's good aswell

Posted by TJMonkey15
Honestly, I'd take the C905 even if it's camera was a little worse than a competitor phone just because I love 's UI so much. Right now I have an N82, and I've been debating whether or not I want to go back to my beat up, partially working k790 instead, just because I like the user interface so much more.

So in my opinion, if the c905 camera is decent, and the price isn't through the roof, I'd say it's a winner.

Posted by Guto_ViP

On 2008-06-18 23:32:20, C905 wrote:

On 2008-06-18 23:26:05, Guto_ViP wrote:

On 2008-06-18 22:50:35, C905 wrote:

On 2008-06-18 22:49:36, G-Izzat wrote:
's OS are great already, aren't they?

Yep it's the best out there


need better program... i mean about GPS... SE need a program like a Garmin Mobile XT, this program is amazing...

Have a lot of another program good, but doesnt work on SE OS....


What about Wayfinder? That's good aswell


this app speak the router?

Posted by se_dude
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/[....]eview-Sony-Ericsson-C905.phtml


good one

Posted by Guto_ViP

On 2008-06-18 23:41:42, TJMonkey15 wrote:
Honestly, I'd take the C905 even if it's camera was a little worse than a competitor phone just because I love 's UI so much. Right now I have an N82, and I've been debating whether or not I want to go back to my beat up, partially working k790 instead, just because I like the user interface so much more.

So in my opinion, if the c905 camera is decent, and the price isn't through the roof, I'd say it's a winner.


Yes, but if Nokia or another brand release a phone with 8.0mp and symbian with Scalador software?

I read about this: "Symbian licenses Scalado software to deliver picture perfect mobile imaging Symbian OS even more attractive for mid-range mobile phones"

LUND, SWEDEN and LONDON, United Kingdom – 11 June 2008 - Symbian Limited, the market leader in open operating systems for mobile phones, has signed a licensing agreement with Scalado for its mobile imaging software affording Symbian OS™ state of the art image handling capabilities, making Symbian an even more attractive mobile OS choice for mid-range devices.

Scalado’s solution for Symbian OS will significantly improve Symbian’s imaging performance for higher megapixel images. It will deliver faster rendering, scaling and rotation and superior image editing features - with the added benefit of reduced memory consumption. Importantly, Scalado’s patented Random Access JPEG technology allows imaging operations to occur while the image is in compressed form, greatly reducing RAM consumption.

Retroactive to Symbian OS v9.3 and v9.4, the three year licence ensures benefits for end-users and handset manufacturers alike and is free of any additional royalties. End users will enjoy higher usability while handset manufacturers will see a cut in hardware costs. Under the terms of the deal, Symbian and Scalado will create a joint team of highly skilled imaging and camera engineers to enhance and extend Symbian's camera and imaging offering.

Mats Jacobson, CEO of Scalado, commented; “Consumers today expect mobile phone cameras to perform just as well as digital still cameras. Building on our existing long and fruitful partnership, this new initiative sees Symbian and Scalado working together to ensure that the leading mobile OS will deliver the beauty of high quality and high speed image handling with full connectivity and sharing options to consumers.”

Jørgen Behrens, Executive Vice-President, Marketing, Symbian, commented; “This licensing agreement will benefit both handset vendors and end-users - reducing cost and memory consumption in handset development and offering advanced image handling capabilities in high megapixel camera devices to end-users. It's another great demonstration of our commitment to offering the best mobile technology possible in Symbian OS and to helping the mobile industry succeed.”


About Symbian Limited
Symbian is a software licensing company that develops and licenses Symbian OS, the market-leading open operating system for mobile phones.

Symbian licenses Symbian OS to the world's leading handset manufacturers and has built close co-operative business relationships with leading companies across the mobile industry. During Q1 2008, 18.5 million Symbian mobile phones were sold worldwide to over 250 major network operators, bringing the total number of units shipped up to 31 March 2008 to 206 million.

Symbian has its headquarters in London, with offices in Cambridge, United Kingdom, China, India, Japan, Korea and United States. For more information, please visit www.symbian.com.

About Scalado
Scalado AB is a Swedish imaging Software Company that focuses on the wireless device industry. It provides mobile imaging software solutions that are powerful, scalable and modular for any camera phone. Its mission is to make imaging on mobile phones more efficient – bringing higher usability for end-users and cutting hardware costs for device manufacturers. With unique and patented software technologies, it is solving critical performance issues with less memory and CPU requirements.

Here: http://www.scalado.com/m4n/?oid=754&_locale=1

Posted by PeterKay
No price yet but Play.com have already put this on the site!!!!

http://www.play.com/Mobiles/M[....]/Product.html?searchtype=genre



Posted by Guto_ViP
More about Scalado and Symbiam:

The new applications include some innovative features that will enhance the overall experience for the camerpahone user, allowing them to be more creative with the images they take and view and store them in a totally revolutionary way. These include; innovative 3D graphic effects in the PhotoAlbum(tm) powered by SpeedView(tm), PhotoRama(tm) which is a ready panorama application. PhotoEditor(tm), PhotoCamera(tm) and PhotoTwister(tm) are other applications on show. PhotoFusion(tm) with several new face masks will capture your image to make you appear in a totally different situation.

http://www.symbianone.com/content/view/4921/130/




Will be great! SE need think about change they OS.

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Posted by astdave
Is this the loud speaker, Has anyone heard anything about how the audio quality is?



Posted by PeterKay
yes it is the loudspeaker.


Posted by naveedaziz83
hopefully it is going to be good..
gsmarena will confirm this once they do the full review

Posted by Lunion
play.com are well quick, already got all the newly announced phones on the site (!)

Posted by soane28
wow this has excellent picture quality, so hard to believe its the same company that released the K850!

Bring on the N82 Vs C905 review!

Posted by Guto_ViP
I wanna see this too...

Maybe when C905 will be release a Nokia has released a 8mp phone too..

Posted by Lunion
From looking at the photos on GSM arena of the guy holding the phone, it really doesn't look as thick as i first thought, i cant wait!!!


I don't care what colour i get now, i just want 1!!!

Posted by Miss UK
Isn't that a pretty phone
bout time got of there butts and lanuched this

be intrested to hear reviews of you lot when you get it,
so i'll be watching, to get the phone immediatley will be crazy I think though so to let it age abit well

Posted by laurenke01
I can't find the C905 on the British SE site anymore. It was never posted on the US site. Maybe they're fixing the typos and freq. band inconsistencies?

Posted by Miss UK
do have issues with slides? and what about the keypads?
have those been fixed yet anyone know?

looks like my N95 could be going redundant to this!!!

shame the memory isn't great though



Posted by JAGUY85
SE has made me so excited. If this is signs of things to come (rather than the heights) then I am even more anxious. I am tired of Nokia coming out on top with their releases as of last year.

Posted by clauf

On 2008-06-19 02:32:56, Miss UK wrote:
do have issues with slides? and what about the keypads?
have those been fixed yet anyone know?

looks like my N95 could be going redundant to this!!!

shame the memory isn't great though




Sony Ericsson never had an issue with the sliders. They were always top quality (maybe not so much the S500 & W580), but look at the W850 and W910.

The only keypad issue I seen in Sony Ericsson is again with the W580 & S500. But most of the time, I find Sony Ericsson keypads way better than Nokias. Besides, GSMARENA has said that the C905 has an excellent keypad.

Memory can always be expanded via M2 cards.

Posted by Zzzyzx
I hope SE wins the battle too. Kind of like when they released k750.
The question now is what would be C905's Walkman counterpart?


Posted by Supa_Fly

On 2008-06-19 00:44:25, PeterKay wrote:
yes it is the loudspeaker.



IF thats the loudspeaker, then where is the microphone?! I thought that was the microphone, a new design for the port to reduce/illiminate wind-noise during conversations.

Also memory is a WOPPING 128MB (around there)!! this is THE MOST SE has ever put in a platform phone! This is HUGE! I'm sure this is mainly for the WiFi & GPS implementations along with Flash, but I'm curious if the browser HEAP memory is significantly bumped up from 3MB in NetFront 3.4; speaking of which where's the white paper.?!

Posted by AbuBasim

On 2008-06-19 06:27:40, Prom1 wrote:

On 2008-06-19 00:44:25, PeterKay wrote:
yes it is the loudspeaker.



IF thats the loudspeaker, then where is the microphone?! I thought that was the microphone, a new design for the port to reduce/illiminate wind-noise during conversations.

I was just about to ask the same when I saw your post
Maybe they swapped them around so the mic is up at the top of the phone? They will get a lot of complaints from customers that the other party can't hear a word they're saying...
What is that colorful expression they have for this in the US? Can I say that SE scr*wed the pooch?

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Posted by >500

On 2008-06-19 02:32:56, Miss UK wrote:
do have issues with slides? and what about the keypads?
have those been fixed yet anyone know?

looks like my N95 could be going redundant to this!!!

shame the memory isn't great though




as said above, sliders arent that bad. w910 and w850 were/are quite good.

the early bathces of s500's werent the best, but as time went on, and more batches were released, the slider got stronger. same with the w580. and its only on these 2 phones which keypads cracked.

gsmarena preview states the keypad oon c905 is quite tactile.



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Posted by Waspinator
Can we expect VGA recording in the final version.

Posted by mib1800

On 2008-06-19 08:04:26, Waspinator wrote:
Can we expect VGA recording in the final version.


I think you should be happy if SE delivers the video at QVGA @ constant 30fps. Otherwise, it may end up as QVGA @-occasionally-30 fps-but-mostly-15fps like what happened in K850.

Posted by justin25
[quote]
On 2008-06-17 15:55:27, laffen wrote:

The Cyber-shot range:



It's interesting to see this photo from laffen. (Thanks)
From this photo we can see:

Qualifyer MP:
C905>C902>K850>K810>K770>C702>K800>K550/S302
K770>C702>K800?

Differentiators: (What does that mean?)
C905/C902>C702>K850>K800>K810>K550>K770>S302
K800>K810>K550>K770?


Posted by Muhammad-Oli
I don't think you should take that chart so seriously. Its obvious that the phones are not accurately put onto the chart, they are just laid out in a way that looks nice.

Posted by vegetaleb
About the soft version,is it A2 CID 53 ?
So it could be compatible with XS++ 3.2?

Posted by norbi_nw
What about the processor? I'm always interested in processor and memory (ram). So, it's ~128ram, and need to know CPU speed.

Posted by gavster001
for a BETA, the picture quality looks really really promising! cant wait for its release!!!

FULL resolution
http://www.mobilmania.cz/Show[....]&height=500&title=DSC00014.JPG
http://www.mobilmania.cz/Show[....]&height=500&title=DSC00021.JPG
http://www.mobilmania.cz/Show[....]&height=500&title=DSC00015.JPG




Posted by strizlow800
LOL these pictures are AWESOME.... heheheh

Posted by goldenface
Great pictures. Real great product they have here - and about time too.

Posted by strizlow800
Yeah, it was about time... You know, I hope this phone will put an END to the endless "nokia vs sony ericsson camera quality" discussions...

Posted by se_dude
dunno why people are comapring it to the n82..the n82 is slightly ahead of the k850 in terms of picture quality..this one is ages ahead..

perfect details if you say so...with photo flash+photolight+xenon

now its SE's flagship vs nokia's

c905 vs n96

nokia has to put in a couple of halogens now..lol

Posted by Duran

On 2008-06-19 12:07:54, gavster001 wrote:
for a BETA, the picture quality looks really really promising! cant wait for its release!!!

FULL resolution
http://www.mobilmania.cz/Show[....]&height=500&title=DSC00014.JPG
http://www.mobilmania.cz/Show[....]&height=500&title=DSC00021.JPG
http://www.mobilmania.cz/Show[....]&height=500&title=DSC00015.JPG



nice O_O

edit: use these if you wanna see them resized
http://www.mobilmania.cz/uploadedfiles/991021591.JPG
http://www.mobilmania.cz/uploadedfiles/982152296.JPG
http://www.mobilmania.cz/uploadedfiles/268205684.JPG

[ This Message was edited by: Duran on 2008-06-19 12:04 ]

[ This Message was edited by: Duran on 2008-06-19 12:05 ]

Posted by mediar
Sony Ericsson Japan has already added 3x optical zoom in SE so905ics and VGA video ( 30fps ). They can add this in C915 or C955...

Little info - http://www.itechnews.net/2008[....]omo-so905ics-cyber-shot-phone/

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Posted by sahran
if the C905 won't record in VGA at least it should playback video at VGA@30fps

Posted by mr_lou

On 2008-06-19 13:04:12, mediar wrote:
Sony Ericsson Japan has already added 3x optical zoom in SE so905ics and VGA video ( 30fps ). They can add this in C915 or C955...

Little info - http://www.itechnews.net/2008[....]omo-so905ics-cyber-shot-phone/


O_o That is cool!

Posted by strizlow800

On 2008-06-19 13:05:54, sahran wrote:
if the C905 won't record in VGA at least it should playback video at VGA@30fps


It would be very bad move if this phone can't record video in VGA 30fps... If that happens, will lose many customers again.. They made the phone almost perfect for taking pictures, and I think when it has the processor power to process 8MP photos, it would be able to record videos 30 fps at VGA resolution... The only thing need to make, is a GOOD CAMERA DRIVER...

Posted by Sony α
@Mediar/Mr Lou

Cool yes - effective? Strangely, yes...to an extent

Even with decent optics, and the 'Bending lens technology' adopted from Sony's 'Cyber-shot' Cameras - the Optical Zoom still degrades quality...slightly - although, I strongly disagree that its an acceptable omission from the mighty C905.

Here are a few examples:

No Zoom Used:



3x Optical Zoom:



1x Optical Zoom:



3x Optical Zoom:



No Zoom Used:



3x Optical Zoom:



So, as you can see - its is effective, but to be honest - one hardly ever uses it. Ill try and take some shots in Ginza tonight, show you all how it fares in low light Zoom.




Posted by laffen
During the C905 announcement, a Sony Ericsson guy mentioned something about the C905 having similar chip as Sony Alpha. He didn't know for sure, but he thought he could recall someone mention this internaly in Sony Ericsson. It is for sure not the image sensor as the smallest Sony Alpha sensor dimentions are 23.6 x 15.8 mm. That would not fit into the C905. It could be the Sony Bionz image processor. Or it could be he got it all wrong..


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