Posted by thewiccaman
I don't think there is a recent thread specifically for Mac users so I thought I'd start one ...
I know a lot of you are connecting your phones to PCs from the threads I've read [and boy, is it complicated!!], but there doesn't seem to be that much discussion about SE phones and Macs.
So Mac users: post here with any hints, tips, what software you use, problems you may have, etc.
To get things going, do all you Mac users know about the software available to connect your SE phones to your Mac? Here's a link that may be useful:
http://www.macupdate.com/sear[....]ericsson&button.x=0&button.y=0
Here's hoping this will become a lively thread
David
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Posted by Altezza_lex
Download phoneagent...its really good.
Posted by KarmenV
Hi thewiccaman, This is very useful. Thanks!
Posted by lesneo
I am using a P800 which I sync with my Wallstreet Powerbook (running Jaguar 10.2.
and iSync and iCal. O yes, Wallstreet has no bluetooth so I got a dongle which works pretty fine.
For file transer, Bluetooth File Exchange does the job well.
Of course, I can't do without a MS stick reader to transfer heavy duty files like videos and oggs.
Pretty all rounded if you ask me about using Mac and a SE...
Posted by thewiccaman
I agree with Altezza_lex about phoneagent - it's a bit pricey at $30 (£20 to me) but is far and away the most complete program for linking the t610 to the Mac and in my opinion, well worth the money. You can send sms direct from your Mac, back up your phonebook and sim and a lot more.
http://www.macmedia.sk/
The other program I use a lot is Ericsson Client. This works great with the t68 (that's what it was written for) but also works perfectly with my t610 (don't know about other models as I can't test it). It is ideal for basic file transfers and also allows a backup of the phone book.
http://homepage.mac.com/jonassalling/Shareware/EricssonClient/
In fact, when I changed to the t610 recently, from a t68, I backed up the t68 phonebook and calendar to the Mac using this program and then just sent the files to my t610: phonebook and calendar populated, no problem
Great response to this thread so quickly! Hope it's useful!
David
Posted by Mac
no problems for me connecting my P900 to my 12" Powerbook using bluetooth, works always for me
Posted by KarmenV
Hi,
Do U know where to download T610 Theme edit for MAC?? Thanks
Posted by MacDuc
Great idea, is really missing link on this forum. The PC guys don't know what there missing...
Once you MAc you never go back!!
P900 or T610 and Salling Clicker is a must for Mac and Bluetooth users
Greetz
MacDuc
Posted by thewiccaman
Hi KarmenV, the only theme editor for the t610 I know of is phoneagent. Only thing is, you can't save themes without registering the program
For the t68, there is
http://homepage.mac.com/tobiaslidskog/T68ThemeEdit/index.html
and as the page says, it may be updated for the t610.
Hope this helps,
David
Posted by KarmenV
Hi thewiccaman,
Thanks, so sad. if U happen to see one let me know.
Posted by Mac
I agree with the clicker part, it is VERY powerfull in combination with the P900
Posted by eznug
to use your phone on a mac is very easy.
u install mac os X 10.3
put in a bluetoothadapter.
start the program bluetooth in your settings.
search for units find ur phone connect them
start isync tada done.
you can even transfer files with the program that is on the os X
no need to get anything else
well salling clicker isnt bad
then u can remote your computer with your phone
it is the best combination to run an ibook and a t610 it works all the time
Posted by s40convert
Well, there is a reason why there is no speciel MAC thread... We MAC guys just don't have to fight all those silly problems like on Windoze
It's as easy as eznug wrote... all done in less than 2 minutes...
Posted by thewiccaman
I agree with s40convert about Windoze. I specifically tried not to gloat about how easy linking the se phones to Macs is when I started this thread but as it's already been mentioned - to all you PC users struggling to get your se phones and PCs talking to each other:
Nanananananaa!
Only joking! Please don't flame me!!!
Someone mentioned about the Bluetooth file exchange program that comes with osX Jag. This is useful for basic transfer *to* the phone but not the other way (I don't think?) I struggled through the menus for something to initiate the program and then realised all I had to do was drag the file onto the dock icon and off it goes! D'oh!!
Posted by Mac
no true, you can receive files on your mac from the phone... If I read all those problems from the windoze guys, I'm glad I have a Mac...
Posted by s40convert
to retrieve files from the phone, just click on you bluetooth icon in the menu bar and pick "Browse Device"
Unfortunately this is only one-by-one...
Posted by anish
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Oh my god you have to do all the above steps jsut ot sync your phone witha Mac and you call that easy.
. On the Pc you just have to put the phone on the cradle rightclick the phone icon and click sync.
Also if I understood correctly from what I read above you have to buy a software called phone agent for $30 to connect a mac with 610 and you guys still call it easy
?
Well to be frank I am not very surprised you are thae same guys who say draging the file to the trash bin is easy than clicking the 'Delete' button on the PC.
Mac and User friendly, I don't think those are two words which can be used together with out a 'not 'between them
PS: Just curious does the mac recognise the .sis files or does it deal with those file the same way they deal with .exe files?
Posted by s40convert
I don't want to get into the MAC vs. Windows discussion here, just want to make things clear for anish:
If you have the currently supported MAC OS and a bluetooth dongle, there is nothing to be installed at all. Just pair the device with the software built in the OS, and start transfering files, syncing your contacts, calenders, etc...
And what are .sis files? But I guess the the Mac handles them the same way as .exe files -> it doesn't do anything with them...
Posted by anish
@s40convert
The programs and games made for the p800 and p900 phones are .sis files which are executable files and thats why I guessed the mac won't recognise them and you wouldn't be able to execute them on a Mac.
So what do you do to install a game or an application on the P8/900? Do you transfer the whole file to the phone first and then execute it there?
On a PC you just click on those .sis files and it installs itself to the phone.
I also didn't want to start an argument but I saw some people above saying Mac is so much better than 'Windoze' . I tottaly agree Mac is a prettier piece of equipment (because I have a Mac Powerbook 17 Inch laptop, provided by the company) but when it comes to user friendliness and ease of use I beg to differ.
Posted by thewiccaman
Yeah, c'mon guys - no Mac v PC here: it's not what the thread is about...
PC people have their programs, we Mac users have ours. At the end of the day, the aim of of the game is to get stuff up/down to the phone the easiest way possible so let's leave it at that and carry on supporting each other cos that's why we're here
David
Posted by Jools
Good article on The Register today about Clicker
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/39/36030.html
And another good program I've used is GSM Remote:
http://www.traud.de/gsm/remote/
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Posted by s40convert
@thewiccaman sorry, that was not my intention...
@all the others: how would I install program on a P800/900 when those .sis only work on PCs...????
And I agreee with everyone regarding the Salling Clicker! One of the few companies not ignoring the small MAC community!!
Posted by thewiccaman
JoolsG3 has come up with a whole other thing here - the gsm side of the phone. What I mean is using the phone in conjunction with the Mac as a modem/internet connection - you get my meaning? :-/
I have tried to do that when I still had my t68 and managed to get as far as half the google home page before everything got pearshaped. Anyone have success with this?
Also, some gsm software, none of which I've tried though:
http://www.macupdate.com/sear[....]=gsm&os=&button.x=0&button.y=0
And guess what, some is for os9!
David
Posted by thewiccaman
*Message to Esato Admins*
Just a thought: as so many of us seem to be using our SE phones in conjunction with our PCs of what ever type, would it be possible to set up 'forums' specifically for PC and Mac users, one for each?
I know there is the 'Technical' forum but as it seems to cover such a wide range of technical matters, often just related to phone issues, it is hard to find specific info about phone/computer issues when using the Esato search function.
I would be interested to know what you/other Esato memebers think.
David
Posted by lesneo
When I installed Salling Clicker, I double-clicked on the installer's .sis file and the software got installed onto my P800 through bluetooth.
If only there is a way to do so with every other .sis file.
Hey Jonas Salling, are you listening? Do the Mac community proud by writing a .sis installer program.... pretty please...
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Posted by anish
@thewiccaman
I didn't mean to hijack the thread, sorry about that.
With regrad to installing the .sis from a MAC, as I said above I think the best way is to beam the file to the p800/900 and then run the sis file from the phone then after installing delete the original sis file. This will require more space on the memory but that will be regained after deleting the original sis file.
Posted by s40convert
Connecting a MAC to your phone to get an internet connection is fairly easy as well. Note that you should have GPRS set up with your service provider! Regular dail up speeds might not satisfy you!
At first, you should get a modem script for your phone! Best source is http://www.taniwha.org.uk/ where you find other useful stuff like APN settings for your service...
On OS X, create a new network location and configure the TCP/IP to be PPP. Under PPP choose a name for the service, enter the user name and password and enter the APN under "telephone number".
Under "Bluetooth Modem", you'll have to pick a modem script and there you go!
Posted by thewiccaman
@anish @s40convert No worries
@s40convert The APN thing is why I had so many problems when I tried to go on the net with my t68 - I think I must have been using WAP as I had a phone number, *not* an APN number to 'dial-up' with.
Must give it a go - tnx!
David
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Posted by hogemeister
wiccaman,
I'm right behind you for the mac/pc split thing.
Could honestly say it would make a heluva difference to mac users here... We are a growing trend, and have been for the past umpteen years now, soon everyone will be saying"You using a PC? what's that? Boring! Get with it, get a MAC! HA! HA!"
C'mon BOSSHOG, where's your vote?
Posted by ratGT
@anish, and anybody else that struggle connecting a unit...
Ehm, the following is the difficult process I had to go through in order to backup my phone and transfer files between my T610 and my pBook (both on Jaguar and Panther):
SYNCHRONISATION
- Connect the Bluetooth dongle to Mac (recognized and ready for usage after 3 sec.)
- Start iSync, search for new device, synchronize
FILE EXCHANGE:
- Right click on the Bluetooth icon on the menu bar, browse device, drag & drop files back and forth in FTP style.
I never had to install 3rd party software, drivers, or ANY kind on stuff that makes your life difficult... Cause after all, it's a Mac!
NOW, I would REALLY like someone to tell me, HOW much more userfriendly can something get? You people running other OS, you go through this in some easier way? What? You just point your phone to your screen and you 'beam' all the processes, or something?
Anyways, as for the rest of the Mac'ers, I can't see any greater value of these 3rd party software. iSync + Bluetooth File Exchange + Address Book + iCal = Complete communication with my mobile.
- iSync
Does all the backup I need (Phonebook, Calendar, etc.)
- Bluetooth File Exchange
Like it is titled, I exchange any kind of file between my Mac and my T610 (Images, sounds, themes, games, programs, contacts, etc.) either by dragging and dropping the file on the Dock, or by browsing my mobile and do it via FTP style.
- Address Book
Organize the phonebook entries (Name, phone numbers, email, etc.), add and remove entries, AND, one of the COOLEST features, send and receive SMS messages on your computer's screen(!!!) while you continue working on your current programs (without even touching the mobile)
- iCal
Organize calendar entries, add and remove entries, etc.
...And best of all, all of these generously included in your Mac OS!
PS. Yes, I know, with PhoneAgent for instance, you can create on your computer's screen the MMSes and send the on. But is it REALLY worth 30 bucks just for such details? Don't you think someone can make it just with your OS's utilities? Unless, you are really lazy or you want to show-off by changing song on iTunes, from your couch, through your mobile, then OK... Salling Clicker it is...
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Posted by thewiccaman
@hogemeister Thanks for the support re the Mac/Pc forum idea.
@ratGT re [iSync Does all the backup I need (Phonebook, Calendar, etc.) ]
I can't run iSync
because I am still running 10.2.1 and the latest version needs 10.2.6 or something) - I'm holding off upgrading till I can get Panther. Does anyone know where I can get an earlier vsn of iSync that will run on 10.2.1 (assuming it will support my t610)?
David
Posted by lesneo
Do like what I do - run software updates and update your 10.2.1. Then install isync.
You need broadband, though, the 10.2.8 requires a whopping 98mb!!!
Posted by Macfreak7
I recently found this "Services" menu app. that lets you send files or text or anything you want via bluetooth using the services menu in cocoa apps
click here for more info
Cool thread. And i second the motion for a "PC/Mac" support section.
BTW, It's Mac, not MAC.
Posted by thewiccaman
@Macfreak7 Now that is useful! Tnx.
Like many of us, I don't make enough use of the services feature - actually, I don't really understand it but will try it :-/
Thanks for supporting my idea of separate computer threads.
@admins @everyone: c'mon guys and gals, let's push for these SE/computer specific forums - are you with me?
David
Posted by s40convert
Hey guys, as ratGT pointed out, all the tools you'll ever need are built in the Mac OS. But for the P800/900 guys out there, here are some scripts to share your internet connection with the phone...
Didn't have the chance to test them, no P900
Posted by snap-hiss
I am a PC and Mac user. I currently have 2 PCs and a Power Mac G4. In fact, I've had a problem networking them ever since I moved to my new home. Does anyone have experience connecting PC with Windows XP and Macs with OS10 via a router to share internet?
!snap
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Posted by thewiccaman
I'm guessing that now this is a 'sticky' thread, admins have agreed there is a need for a Mac [and PC?] specific thread. Thanks, it is appreciated
@everyone Tnx too for supporting the idea. I'm amazed at the response I got when I started this, only on Saturday!
Already there's masses of info, tips, etc., a lot of which I didn't know so, Mac users, keep 'em coming.
David
Posted by Tarnew
@snap-hiss
http://www.macwindows.com/
@All,
Great we have a forum now for mac issues...
cheers from another happy mac - t610 user.
-Tar
Posted by meatmcguffin
@ snap-hiss
i tried connecting through a router and whatnot to have an isdn connection to my powerbook and after a while i gave up.
Instead i bought a wifi adaptor by some cheapy company. I attached this to my windows 2k computer and turned on "shared internet connection" settings from the pc's control panel. Then i set up a wifi network using the built in software in the powerbook and let the pc join to it.
Now the mac connects to the net through the pc. It didnt even need setting up as the mac gets the IP adress and other info directly from the PC and it supports multiple connections. Truly plug and play! That any help at all?
This is a heck of a lot easier way of doing it and one or even several generic wifi adaptors for both macs and pcs are dirt cheap
Posted by mustu
guys i want to send sms via my mac(powerbook)please let me know software I need or how it can be done.The phone is a P900.
Take care,
mustu
Posted by s40convert
@ mustu
no software necesary! use the OS X AddressBook, connect to your phone with the little bluetooth icon, and do a right click (or ctrl-click) on the phone number!
Posted by meatmcguffin
that sms thingy doesnt work with a p800 or p900 though does it? i cant even dial out without editing some xml inside the adress book app and i only got that working once (or did i dream that?!)
i got a feeling that the symbian operating system does not allow for this sms and dialing out which would also explain why incoming calls do not produce a contact when using clicker.
pain. in. arse.
oh and by the way moderators - a seperate forum would be nice. just look how many posts there have been on this thread in such a short space of time!
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Posted by thewiccaman
@meatmcguffin I don't know whether we will get a new forum - at least this thread has been made sticky so it's a start. I never guessed when I started this thread only 2 days ago, on Saturday, there would be such a massive response. To be honest, I'm surprised and rather pleased with myself!!
So admins/moderators: are you listening? We want a *separate* forum ...
As to your specific sms problem, it might be worth trying Phoneagent [see near the start of this thread] to see if your p800 works with it.
Hope this helps,
David
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Posted by ~lozishere~
hey all! great thread, keep it going! my problem is thus: i got a G3 300 mhz mac running 9.1 and it works great (mac os does look lovely on 21 inches of pristeen glass) just the audio doesnt work... ive checked the volume controls and its set to the minimum volume... with no way to change it... i can drag the volume slider up but once i let go of the mouse it returns to its original position... i need help!! oh yeah and will gettin osx make a difference to my sound problem?
Thanx for time
Posted by meatmcguffin
it doesnt seem like the phoneagent thing works on a p series phone.
for anyone whos interested in getting the adress book dial out working for the p900 or other phones then this could be useful:
note: this might not work, i think my problem was that im not using the latest p900 firmware - oh and make sure you have the latest bluetooth update for the mac. and dont worry if this doesnt work its simple to change back!
1) control click the address book application and select show package contents
2) open the following folders:
contents -> resources -> telephony.bundle -> contents -> resources
3) there should then be a file called ABDeviceCommandSets.plist, copy this file to somewhere safe just in case.
4) open the original file with TextEdit
5) scroll down to near the end and change the "p800" to "p900"
6) restart the mac (just in case) and give it a try, oh and tell me on this forum if it works!
if this doesnt work then you can always change it back, or if you majorly mess it up then you can always just copy back the copy you made. simple!
this works for other phones as well, although with these you can add strings in the way that other phones have been added previously. hope this helps all you esatomacs out there!
Posted by dBAGZiq
for my t68 i use a freeware called romeo
for my p800 i am currently trying the new salling clicker...i like that feature where i can control my mouse with my styli...great have to buy this software when money comes.
Posted by meatmcguffin
@lozishere
have you always had the sound problem or is it recent? and yeah id upgrade to panther, just make sure it'll operate on a g3 system. best bit is its completly backwards compatible with 9.x
Posted by ~lozishere~
problem has been around for.ages... not from the beginning though, mind. @all: would 10.2 (jaguar, not panther: i cant afford it) run on a G3 300 mhz with 740mb (i think) of RAM? tia
p.s. thanks for the quick reply!!
Posted by meatmcguffin
@lozishere
it appears that panther will work on a power mac g3 with 128mb of ram so its almost guaranteed that jaguar will run on this, as long as it has built in usb support (for some reason)
there's a bunch more on the apple website http://www.apple.com/macosx/upgrade/requirements.html including some incompatibility issues. is jaguar still for sale anywhere?
Posted by ~lozishere~
oh sh*t! my mac doesnt have usb! would a usb pci card do? any ideas of where to get one?