Posted by Mahdibt67
Just for you @Arch
Posted by Xperiaplus2
Good
Posted by Moe87
I hate 18:9 but I think XZ2P is the last one, also last lcd flagship
So I will consider all as 18:9 ...
MY WISHLIST
XA3 : 5.3" 18:9 Full HD , 3430mAh, SD670, 4GB/64GB, 19MP 25mm f1.8, dual selfie 8MP/f1.9/22m + 8MP/f1.9/18mm
XA3+ : 5.8" 18:9 Full HD, 3580mAh SD670, 4GB/64GB, motion eye + dual 8MP selfie
XA3U : 6.2" 18:9 Full HD, 3700mAh, SD670, 4GB/64GB, motion eye + dual selfie 16 + 13
XZ4: 6" 18:9 QHD Poled, 3430mAh, SD855, 6GB/128GB , 19MP + 12MP , 13MP selfie , in-screen FPS, design of XZ3 with both speakers Z5 style, more DRAM inside imx400.
XZ5c = 5.0" 18:9 Full HD Poled, 2700mAh, SD855, 6GB/128GB, 30MP + 12MP, dual selfie 8 + 8, in-screen FPS
XZ5 = 6" 18:9 QHD Poled, 3500mAh, SD855 6GB/128GB, 30 + 12MP, dual selfie 13 + 13 , in-screen FPS
XZ5P = 6" 18:9 4K Poled , 3650mAh, SD855, 8GB/256GB, 30 + 12MP , dual.selfie 13+ 13 , in-screen FPS
I want XZ5, XZ5c and XZ5P to have 2GB inside both rear sensors.
Posted by badassmam
Add headphones jack or a USB C headphones in the flipping box. Keep the Compact a one handed device. 1 year flagship.
[ This Message was edited by: badassmam on 2018-09-12 17:15 ]
Posted by Mahdibt67
On 2018-09-12 17:36:36, Moe87 wrote:
I want XZ5, XZ5c and XZ5P to have 2GB inside both rear sensors.
You mean 2Gigabits? Because the IMX400 has 1Gb or 128MB Dram right now, and 2GB will be soooo unbelievable
Posted by MNX1024
One thing I don't agree with is making the Premium a 18:9 device. They should definitely keep it a 16:9 because the wasted screen estate when consuming videos are downright annoying. The one of the main point of the Premium is for consuming media.
Not sure how possible it will be, but I definitely vote for the return of the headphone jack! As a frequent traveler, it's a pain not being able to charge and use my headphones at the same time (unless they're bluetooth...).
Posted by Moe87
With Apple giving up on small iPhones, Sony needs to keep Compact alive..
LMAO with prices of new iPhones here.
Posted by moogoo
I second the return of the headphone jack. Yes I have Bluetooth headphones and they're nice but they aren't perfect. Plus they don't last all day for long travel like flights. Having to recharge constantly is a pain and as mnx says, not being able to charge the phone and listen to content is annoying.
As much as I'd like Sony to do their thing, it seems the only way they've been able to gain any praise or traction is to do what every one else is doing. They make an OLED phone and people lose their minds.
Oled is definitely the future and allows them to put more in the phone.lets hope that translates to bigger batteries, dual cam (only because their software for a single cam is not Google status), and headphone jack. Yes Sony software allows for great battery performance but I say they max out whatever they can fit in there.. just blow everyone away. It's one thing that people will happily pay extra for.
Posted by MNX1024
Honestly, I absolutely think they can compete with Google using a single sensor if they tap onto the Alpha team. Sadly, I don't think they do.....
Definitely agree with the battery, they should max out on what they can put in the housing. Still don't get how other manufacturer can put in 4000mah on a much thinner phone and they're unwilling or can't.
Posted by Moe87
I read somewhere ( I guess it was post from Buks) that mobile cam team merged with cam division.
That is why xz2 has new jpeg processing.
Also xz2 seems to use less compression, some shots pass 11MB.
https://photographylife.com/reviews/sony-xperia-xz2 Review of xz2 by a photographer.
https://www.androidethereal.com/sony-xperia-xz4/
Posted by Archdragoon
Thank you !!
Posted by Mahdibt67
https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xz3-review-1822.php
Perfect battery,better algorithm in camera,loud speaker, but disappointing display brightness and delta E in standard mode testing
Posted by Moe87
To avoid burn in as much as they can. That is why I prefer LCD.
You can use 100% brightness 24/7.
Tech site of my country could push XZ2 to 872 nits.
Delta of XZ2/XZ2P ar lower.
Posted by Nevewolf
On 2018-09-13 16:07:03, Mahdibt67 wrote:
but disappointing display brightness and delta E in standard mode testing
It's reasonable, Samsung Adaptive profile is terrible.
Posted by Mahdibt67
On 2018-09-13 16:21:51, Moe87 wrote:
To avoid burn in as much as they can. That is why I prefer LCD.
You can use 100% brightness 24/7.
Tech site of my country could push XZ2 to 872 nits.
Delta of XZ2/XZ2P ar lower.
You're right lcd is much better
Posted by Mahdibt67
On 2018-09-13 21:21:29, Nevewolf wrote:
On 2018-09-13 16:07:03, Mahdibt67 wrote:
but disappointing display brightness and delta E in standard mode testing
It's reasonable, Samsung Adaptive profile is terrible.
Yes professional mode should be the most accurate one
Posted by AlvinZahranM
On 2018-09-13 16:21:51, Moe87 wrote:
Tech site of my country could push XZ2 to 872 nits.
Link?
Posted by hgautam
Maximum brightness doesn't matter much.... How many of you always use your phone at maximum brightness while indoors??? Without auto boost S9+ has lower brightness than XZ3 which means when indoors the XZ3 can be brighter. And as for outdoors, XZ3 and S9+ have the same sunlight visibility score so they are equally bright in sun light. So in real life the XZ3 display is atleast as bright as the S9+...
As for color accuracy there are a lot of settings to just manually tune it to your liking. The default mode should have the most accurate colors white balance which sony doesn't does. But atleast we have options to tune it.
[ This Message was edited by: hgautam on 2018-09-14 09:56 ]
Posted by Archdragoon
There should be some tool (hardware) to do the screen calibration for smartphone lol
[ This Message was edited by: Archdragoon on 2018-09-14 07:07 ]
Posted by Lonewolf223
At least sony took a good step in adopting oled.
And samsung has the best calibrated displays in the market
In most of the reviews sony phones are said to have a bluish tint and even after custom white
point adjustments they arent that great
Sunlight legibility has improved by a great margin and this is the best sony phone in that regard.
They should crank up the brightness to somewhat around 600-700 nits
Current brightness is bit low for a flagship
Posted by Xperiaplus2
https://youtu.be/wlONO8Hd17Y
You have to watch this video
Posted by Tizzo
Anyone know what was being said in above video? I don't understand Italian
Posted by McKinley
I thought we were going to keep discussion about XZ3 strictly to its official thread.
Posted by Moe87
https://m.weibo.cn/status/4284557634943470
" Next year's Compact will not be cut, but Japan seems to have a SDM6XX DOCOMO limited small screen."..
I have no idea if this means that only docomo version will be midrange.
Bonus: video says both screens are similar with xz3 more vibrating higher contrast while n9 closer to reality
[ This Message was edited by: Moe87 on 2018-09-15 12:27 ]
Posted by moogoo
^^ take it to the XZ3 THREAD! already polluting this thread.. seriously...
sidenote: i wish sony wouldn't take away useful features when they upgrade. i really hope they bring back tap to wake and screen recording. really miss those features.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2018-09-15 22:26 ]
Posted by tonylcc
On 2018-09-15 09:47:57, Moe87 wrote:
https://m.weibo.cn/status/4284557634943470
" Next year's Compact will not be cut, but Japan seems to have a SDM6XX DOCOMO limited small screen."..
I have no idea if this means that only docomo version will be midrange.
Bonus: video says both screens are similar with xz3 more vibrating higher contrast while n9 closer to reality
[ This Message was edited by: Moe87 on 2018-09-15 12:27 ]
sadly, wrong translation
He said, not sure if it will cut or not
Posted by vivftp
On 2018-09-15 15:24:57, moogoo wrote:
^^ take it to the XZ3 THREAD! already polluting this thread.. seriously...
sidenote: i wish sony wouldn't take away useful features when they upgrade. i really hope they bring back tap to wake and screen recording. really miss those features.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2018-09-15 22:26 ]
Isn't tap to wake already in the XZ3?
Posted by moogoo
^no idea. don't have one and didn't read the spec sheet. maybe it is
that being said, who knows when sony will remove it in a future update like they did with the XZ. hope they keep these useful features throughout future updates and models instead of taking them away.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2018-09-16 06:28 ]
Posted by Moe87
I used google to translate..
It should tell me correctly.
😅
Posted by tonylcc
On 2018-09-16 04:49:53, vivftp wrote:
On 2018-09-15 15:24:57, moogoo wrote:
^^ take it to the XZ3 THREAD! already polluting this thread.. seriously...
sidenote: i wish sony wouldn't take away useful features when they upgrade. i really hope they bring back tap to wake and screen recording. really miss those features.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2018-09-15 22:26 ]
Isn't tap to wake already in the XZ3?
As I remember, you need to have always on display enabled to have tap to wake
[ This Message was edited by: tonylcc on 2018-09-16 13:19 ]
Posted by tonylcc
On 2018-09-16 09:35:57, Moe87 wrote:
I used google to translate..
It should tell me correctly.
😅
Google Translate is far from acceptable
Posted by tai020381
It translate that they do not know if compact version will continue next year or out but docomo has this model SDM6XX with a small display ~
There's still hope.
Posted by Moe87
Plastic is very tough.
But for the price Compact needs to be glass again.
A new compact with design of xz3 + dual cam + light blue like XZs and same size of xz2c but slimmer would be interesting for many
I remember Sony had A series that was like same specs of Compact but just for Japan.
A2 was like a " z2 compact" ...
[ This Message was edited by: Moe87 on 2018-09-16 16:02 ]
Posted by ch3mn3y
On 2018-09-15 09:47:57, Moe87 wrote:
https://m.weibo.cn/status/4284557634943470
" Next year's Compact will not be cut, but Japan seems to have a SDM6XX DOCOMO limited small screen."..
I have no idea if this means that only docomo version will be midrange.
Not sure if I'm right, but this may mean that mid-range Compact could be limited to DoCoMo in Japan, but not that it will be limited to Japan?
Posted by Moe87
Maybe 6xx for docomo and 8xx international.
Japanse dont seem to care much about having most powrful cpu.
Posted by Fisher
Please no more bad news about Compact... I hope we will see global version. SD6XX is not a big deal for me, but it should have better camera, refreshed design and slimmer body (less than 10mm). Otherwise it makes no sense.
Probably no chance of 5" OLED and it's impossible to use the same design (curved display) as in XZ3, but I'm sure they can make it few mm shorter (~130mm).
Posted by Moe87
Good afternoon guys. Can someone check if benchmark o I8146_v is real?
GFX benchmark
It says:
- 6.1" 18:9 QHD+
- Android 9
- SD855
- 6GB / 128GB
- 19MP rear
- 13MP selfie
Posted by Archdragoon
According to reliable source there's no single camera on Xperia's flagship next year. Otherwise SONY Mobile better shutdown lol
Posted by ch3mn3y
On 2018-09-18 00:39:26, Archdragoon wrote:
According to reliable source there's no single camera on Xperia's flagship next year. Otherwise SONY Mobile better shutdown lol
GXF Bench always shows only one camera (main probably), so it's not exactly reliable source of that.
And it seems many tested devices "disappeared". I remember looking at tests of S9+, XZ2 and now they are no more to be found on the site?
[ This Message was edited by: ch3mn3y on 2018-09-18 04:50 ]
Posted by Archdragoon
Isn't should be the time for new flagship sensor ?
Posted by Moe87
I prefer " xz4" for CES and " xz5/xz5c/xz5p" for IFA than " xz4/xz4c/xz4p" and "xz5".
They could make " xz4" as a xz3 + dual cam + 6/128 + in-s FPS.
Then for IFA some upgrades like design and cam.
Buks did not confirm, but did not deny the benchmark..
Bonus: xz3 does not have tape to wake up. Screen comes from LG..
Posted by Ylli
I found this but i think it has to do with the always on display. Check 3.16 mark "Double-tap the screen to show the lock screen"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0fpceRQ9Jc
Posted by tonylcc
On 2018-09-18 15:12:27, Ylli wrote:
I found this but i think it has to do with the always on display. Check 3.16 mark "Double-tap the screen to show the lock screen"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0fpceRQ9Jc
Actually that also exist in XZ2 series, it is called "Lift to check device" in Display setting.
Posted by Archdragoon
Please accept my apologize in advance as this is not topic related but I want to share my sadness and anger...
This morning I just learn that SONY Mobile Thailand will stop to import new model to sell until the HQ make the good model that can sell enough and they will also stop hiring sales person in phone shop as well as no more co-working with mobile operator.
The reason is the branch suffer poor benefit.
and so... I want to curse those old man at the HQ
Posted by Moe87
I bet southeast Asia is like South America.
Where midranges are much more popular than flagships..
Problem is the fact chinese brands have low cost.
Xioami does not ned to sell.phones to survive, then they just care about units sold and not profits.
They put 660/636 inside low ends and charge $200.
Maybe if Sony decided to be more aggressive sales could improve.
Like XA3 powered by 670 and L3 by 636.
Posted by ch3mn3y
It would be great, but I don't see L with 6XX. L3 will be MTK or 4XX max.
Posted by RacSony
On 2018-09-19 02:43:37, Archdragoon wrote:
Please accept my apologize in advance as this is not topic related but I want to share my sadness and anger...
This morning I just learn that SONY Mobile Thailand will stop to import new model to sell until the HQ make the good model that can sell enough and they will also stop hiring sales person in phone shop as well as no more co-working with mobile operator.
The reason is the branch suffer poor benefit.
and so... I want to curse those old man at the HQ
sorry to hear that. so in Thailand, not even XZ3 will be released?
Posted by Archdragoon
On 2018-09-19 14:00:14, RacSony wrote:
On 2018-09-19 02:43:37, Archdragoon wrote:
Please accept my apologize in advance as this is not topic related but I want to share my sadness and anger...
This morning I just learn that SONY Mobile Thailand will stop to import new model to sell until the HQ make the good model that can sell enough and they will also stop hiring sales person in phone shop as well as no more co-working with mobile operator.
The reason is the branch suffer poor benefit.
and so... I want to curse those old man at the HQ
sorry to hear that. so in Thailand, not even XZ3 will be released?
Right, Sadly.
Posted by RacSony
On 2018-09-19 14:15:13, Archdragoon wrote:
On 2018-09-19 14:00:14, RacSony wrote:
On 2018-09-19 02:43:37, Archdragoon wrote:
Please accept my apologize in advance as this is not topic related but I want to share my sadness and anger...
This morning I just learn that SONY Mobile Thailand will stop to import new model to sell until the HQ make the good model that can sell enough and they will also stop hiring sales person in phone shop as well as no more co-working with mobile operator.
The reason is the branch suffer poor benefit.
and so... I want to curse those old man at the HQ
sorry to hear that. so in Thailand, not even XZ3 will be released?
Right, Sadly.
hmm, it seems to be the same in Singapore, maybe all south-east asia?
https://sumahoinfo.com/post-25720
Posted by Archdragoon
That's even more sad...