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Posted by Tibagy


Sony Xperia XZs Key Features:

- 3G Network: HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100

- 4G Network: LTE 700 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600

- Dual SIM (Nano-SIM, Dual Stand-By, Dual Call)

- Connectivity: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, DLNA, Wi - Fi HotSpot, Wi - Fi MiraCast, Bluetooth v4.2 With A2DP, MicroUSB v2.0 And NFC

- GPS With A-GPS Support And GLONASS

- Dimensions: 146 x 72 x 8.1 mm

- Weight: 161 Grams.

- Display 5,2" IPS LCD FullHD Triluminos (~424 Ppi Pixel Density) With X-Reality Mobile And Corning Gorilla Glass 5

- 32 Or 64 GigaBytes Memory Internal

- Expansive Memory Up To 256 Gigabytes

- 4 GigaBytes Ram LPDDR4

- CPU Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820 Kyro Dual Core 2.15 GHz And Dual Core 1.59 GHz (SemiConductor Technology 14 nm FinFET LPP)

- GPU Adreno 530 (Quad - Core Graphics @624 MHz)

- Android 7.0 (Nougat) With Sony UI

- Office Document Viewer (Word, Excel, PowerPoint And Reader PDF)

- Camera Motion Eye 19.1 MP With EIS, Triple Image Sensing Technology And Led Flash

- CamCorder UltraHD (2160p @30 FPS) With EIS And Super Slow Motion HD (720p @960 FPS)

- 13 MP Front Facing Camera Wide Angle Lens With SteadyShot And CamCorder FullHD (1080p @30 FPS)

- FM Radio With RDS

- PS4™ Remote Play

- Stereo Speaker With S-Force Front Surround

- Active Noise Cancellation With Dedicated Mic

- Fingerprint Reader

- IP68 Certified (Dust Proof And Water Resistant Over 1.5 Meter And 30 Minutes)

- Standard Battery Li-Ion 2900 mAh (Non-Removable) With Quick Charge 3.0

- Available In Ice Blue, Black And Warm Silver Colors
[ This Message was edited by: Tibagy on 2017-02-28 02:30 ]



Posted by Tibagy
Sony Xperia XZs – Super Slow Motion. Super Wow Expression.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibzZ4fhP9x0

Posted by ascariss
The new XZs is tempting, especially with this camera, gsmarena samples look pretty good so far.

btw the photo of the white device is not the XZs.

Slow motion video from gsmarena
http://www.gsmarena.com/check[....]s_slowmo_videos-news-23640.php

quick hands on
www.gsmarena.com/sony_mwc_201[....]_xa1_xa1_ultra-review-1576.php

Posted by DentyCracker
Getting either the Ice-Blue XZs or Black XZ Premium for Christmas or maybe a bit earlier.
[ This Message was edited by: DentyCracker on 2017-02-28 12:52 ]


Posted by Tibagy
Sony Xperia XZs Vs Sony Xperia XZ: What's New In The XZs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dR-Vox5jo

Posted by Tibagy
Sony Motion Eye Camera 960 FPS (Extreme Slow-Mo Example)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT0QP0MwfOc

Posted by josephnero
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobi[....]8/1/rv/sony-xperia-xzs-review/

https://www.androidheadlines.[....]ger-arrives-india-april-4.html
[ This Message was edited by: josephnero on 2017-03-28 14:01 ]


Posted by josephnero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aApN9liJl-o

Posted by doministry

On 2017-04-01 21:32:37, josephnero wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aApN9liJl-o

None of these is on the market yet...
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2017-04-02 12:04 ]


Posted by McKinley

On 2017-04-02 13:04:09, doministry wrote:

On 2017-04-01 21:32:37, josephnero wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aApN9liJl-o

None of these is on the market yet...
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2017-04-02 12:04 ]



I call all the youtubers who can't show an actual product in hand to be fake. Too many of these BS-tubers.


Posted by Tibagy

On 2017-03-26 08:55:20, josephnero wrote:
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobi[....]8/1/rv/sony-xperia-xzs-review/

https://www.androidheadlines.[....]ger-arrives-india-april-4.html
[ This Message was edited by: josephnero on 2017-03-28 14:01 ]





Posted by josephnero
yeah.fishy as hell

Posted by GRANEDE
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/[....]dia-price-review/1/919371.html

Camera is a major improvement but still not able to capture class leading image. I think Sony should lower the megapixel count in their future flagship phone. 1/2.3 inch, 12-16 mpx is the best range for smartphone IMO.

Posted by GRANEDE
http://www.theverge.com/2017/4/5/15188128/phone-bezels-look-dated

Yeaaah, I have to agree with them. Unfortunately Sony mobile will see a revolution in design in 2018 ( according to sony mobile ceo ) so I expect the design language to remain throughout the 2017. I so want a 5.5 inch FHD, SD835, front facing duo speaker, at least 3200 mAh sony phone in the same body as XZs.

Posted by Shino03
I'm afraid I disagree! If all phones will become bezel-less then how will you differentiate your phone.

Look at the xiami mix and sharp aquos crystal, if those phones become the norm, I will be glad if Sony keep those bezels.

Posted by moogoo
I agree. I think bezels have a purpose in design. going fully bezel-less is a trend i'm not too thrilled about. also, having the xz with front facing stereo speakers is night and day difference from my z1 with side bottom single speaker. i certainly don't mind having bezels if i can get speakers. unless someday sony incorporates their screen audio tech from their TVs into a phone (probably not likely).



Posted by XperiaJunkie
Sony Xperia XZs Camera, Gaming + Benchmark

Runs cooler than the XZ, benchmarks great and the camera looks wicked!



Posted by MusaD.Dragon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKb_iceu2lw EIS is a disappointement at night

Posted by moogoo
@MusaD - looks like another fake video. Anybody can put up videos claiming they are from whatever device. Can't believe what you see unless the reviewer is showing you they have both devices in hand.

Posted by GRANEDE
All right the review is up. http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xzs-review-1600p8.php#next
I disagree with gsmarena's opinion on xzs camera performance. They are many improvements in the image department from previous generation. But Sony still have lot of works to do if they want to people to consider the top three camera phone maker in the work. I still think they should go with 12mpx resolution for better low light performance.

Posted by Tibagy
Great review as always from GSMARENA!

I agree that they were severe in evaluating the XZs camera, as it is notorious that it is better than XZ's, yet it is still behind the cameras of the Blackberry Priv and Microsoft Lumia 950 XL, mainly in ISO BASE as well show the graphics below:





But it is worth mentioning that in low light, the new Xperia is better than the previous generation and the top of the line Microsoft:



That new firmware upgrades further enhance the camera, but in a nutshell, congratulations to Sony, the device actually evolved from the previous generation !!!

Posted by hello1000

On 2017-04-08 03:50:05, Tibagy wrote:
Great review as always from GSMARENA!

I agree that they were severe in evaluating the XZs camera, as it is notorious that it is better than XZ's, yet it is still behind the cameras of the Blackberry Priv and Microsoft Lumia 950 XL, mainly in ISO BASE as well show the graphics below:





But it is worth mentioning that in low light, the new Xperia is better than the previous generation and the top of the line Microsoft:



That new firmware upgrades further enhance the camera, but in a nutshell, congratulations to Sony, the device actually evolved from the previous generation !!!


That camera review is like always crap, they always how how to downgeade that part.

They never complain about the camera review of Samsung with their oversharping, not natural colors and bad video recording.

That review was a flop, i Don't know why you said its a great review, no its not a great review, a selected review.

Posted by Shino03
To be honest, I don't know why mobile reviewers think they know better than professional camera reviewers.

All I can remember the last time I used a DLSR camera is that softness isn't always bad.


And if you will look at the fine details of that comparison tool, the XZs is miles better than the blackberry.

The reality is Sony's approach is capturing more detail in the expense of noise. Just look at the paper money in that photo comparison
[ This Message was edited by: Shino03 on 2017-04-08 05:40 ]


Posted by MusaD.Dragon

On 2017-04-07 22:16:09, moogoo wrote:
@MusaD - looks like another fake video. Anybody can put up videos claiming they are from whatever device. Can't believe what you see unless the reviewer is showing you they have both devices in hand.



He actually posted an unboxing and hands on video just before that one


Posted by doministry
Hmm. It's strange with this lowlight performance of XZs on this GSMArena review.
I mean the lowlight pics look like a total crap, especially the live / street ones.
But also in the sheet comparison test, XZs looks actually worse than XZ.
My XZ can take great night shots so is it a photo taking technique again??
I wish. But if XZs makes such bad lowlight photos, it's my last Sony for sure.
I also believe those reviewers less and less. I have to test myself.

As for PhoneBattles videos, they definitely seem NOT fake at all.
And if you really analyze this iPhone 7 / XZs comparison,
exept the walking part XZs's EiS looks more stable and steady that iPhone's.

Posted by admad

On 2017-04-08 03:10:43, GRANEDE wrote:
All right the review is up. http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xzs-review-1600p8.php#next
I disagree with gsmarena's opinion on xzs camera performance. They are many improvements in the image department from previous generation. But Sony still have lot of works to do if they want to people to consider the top three camera phone maker in the work. I still think they should go with 12mpx resolution for better low light performance.


Reducing MP has nothing to do with low light performance. How about simply implementing OIS like every other manufacturer? -.-


Posted by doministry

On 2017-04-08 17:14:07, admad wrote:

On 2017-04-08 03:10:43, GRANEDE wrote:
All right the review is up. http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xzs-review-1600p8.php#next
I disagree with gsmarena's opinion on xzs camera performance. They are many improvements in the image department from previous generation. But Sony still have lot of works to do if they want to people to consider the top three camera phone maker in the work. I still think they should go with 12mpx resolution for better low light performance.


Reducing MP has nothing to do with low light performance. How about simply implementing OIS like every other manufacturer? -.-

OIS doesn't do better than Sony's EIS.
It's all about the algorithm.

Posted by milanelo
Battery life is yet again disappointing.

Posted by doministry

On 2017-04-08 19:23:41, milanelo wrote:
Battery life is yet again disappointing.


I wouldn't say that.
It's a bit better than XZ which is amazing.

Posted by admad

On 2017-04-08 17:49:21, doministry wrote:

On 2017-04-08 17:14:07, admad wrote:

On 2017-04-08 03:10:43, GRANEDE wrote:
All right the review is up. http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xzs-review-1600p8.php#next
I disagree with gsmarena's opinion on xzs camera performance. They are many improvements in the image department from previous generation. But Sony still have lot of works to do if they want to people to consider the top three camera phone maker in the work. I still think they should go with 12mpx resolution for better low light performance.


Reducing MP has nothing to do with low light performance. How about simply implementing OIS like every other manufacturer? -.-

OIS doesn't do better than Sony's EIS.
It's all about the algorithm.



In photo department of course it does. Phones with OIS can take pictures with lower ISO at same shutter speed that i.e Sony will use with higher ISO, that's where EIS fails to do anything, and this is the reason why night pictures with sony (not taken on tripod) fall short behind competition.

In video department I will agree that EIS works very well (even better that OIS alone), with no much harm to quality (FOV is hurt a little bit, but that's something you won't ever notice).

Posted by ascariss

On 2017-04-08 17:14:07, admad wrote:

On 2017-04-08 03:10:43, GRANEDE wrote:
All right the review is up. http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xzs-review-1600p8.php#next
I disagree with gsmarena's opinion on xzs camera performance. They are many improvements in the image department from previous generation. But Sony still have lot of works to do if they want to people to consider the top three camera phone maker in the work. I still think they should go with 12mpx resolution for better low light performance.


Reducing MP has nothing to do with low light performance.


Of course it does, it's simple math .The bigger the area for light capture, the brighter the image with less noise and the better performance of the camera, especially in love light.

Posted by milanelo

On 2017-04-09 09:11:06, doministry wrote:

On 2017-04-08 19:23:41, milanelo wrote:
Battery life is yet again disappointing.


I wouldn't say that.
It's a bit better than XZ which is amazing.



Come on now, i'm a Sony fan too, but let's not pretend that the battery life is amazing. Just compare it to the Galaxy series, the Moto Z Play or the Xiaomi/Lenovo phones and Sony's battery life is pretty average to good at best. Which is sad cause i was gonna pre-order the Premium but now i'm waiting for the battery life test which by the looks of it would also be average.

Posted by XperiaJunkie
Battery life on the XZ is very good indeed, no complaints here at all. Getting at least well into a second day on a single charge as this screenshot shows and if the XZs has even better life then well done Sony.


[ This Message was edited by: XperiaJunkie on 2017-04-09 18:07 ]


Posted by moogoo
Those battery life tests on GSM arena don't ever seem to translate to real world usage for me. Sony phones tend to be average or worse on their tests but my phones have always outlasted my friend's galaxies and iphones when we are out and about and we all started with 100%. they're all pulling out their power packs while i'm still going strong.

i've never ever had complains about my battery life. it's been one of the hallmarks of a sony phone since the SE days and i really don't think that's going to change.

Posted by Tibagy
Sony Xperia XZs Camera, Gaming + Benchmark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq66OpR63AE

Posted by Tibagy
Magic AR Effect App Launched By Sony

https://play.google.com/store[....].cameraaddon.areffect&hl=en_GB

Posted by McKinley

On 2017-04-09 18:59:31, XperiaJunkie wrote:
Battery life on the XZ is very good indeed, no complaints here at all. Getting at least well into a second day on a single charge as this screenshot shows and if the XZs has even better life then well done Sony.


[ This Message was edited by: XperiaJunkie on 2017-04-09 18:07 ]



The battery life went from good to superb with the latest update for me.
Just like Moogoo. It lasts well into the second day now. I sometimes only charge my phone to around 50% and I feel safe that the Xperia XZ won't die on me during a regular work day.

Posted by admad

On 2017-04-09 15:39:40, ascariss wrote:

On 2017-04-08 17:14:07, admad wrote:

On 2017-04-08 03:10:43, GRANEDE wrote:
All right the review is up. http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xzs-review-1600p8.php#next
I disagree with gsmarena's opinion on xzs camera performance. They are many improvements in the image department from previous generation. But Sony still have lot of works to do if they want to people to consider the top three camera phone maker in the work. I still think they should go with 12mpx resolution for better low light performance.


Reducing MP has nothing to do with low light performance.


Of course it does, it's simple math .The bigger the area for light capture, the brighter the image with less noise and the better performance of the camera, especially in love light.


You have mistaken MP with sensor size. Changing Megapixel count has only minor importance. For example, let's say we have 1/2,3" sensor. You can have 8MP or even 32MP, it doesn't really matter, because 4 pixels of 32MP will catch roughly the same ammount of light as one pixel in 8MP. So, when viewing images captured from these two sensor at 8MP or less, the quality will be practically the same.

What is important is the lens size and how stable the light going through the lens is (OIS). At GSMArena they only test auto mode, you can get good night shot on tripod with correct settings, just set ISO40, shutter speed 1 sec and you will have beautiful night photo, as long as the phone will be on tripod

Which is sad cause i was gonna pre-order the Premium but now i'm waiting for the battery life test which by the looks of it would also be average.


Battery life on Xperia XZ premium will be very different, it has newer chipset and different screen resolution, as chipset will probably be in favour of better battery life, 4K resolution might take some extra juice pretty fast.
[ This Message was edited by: admad on 2017-04-10 17:47 ]


Posted by pt020
In the beginning the battery life of my XZ was poor compared to my older Z3C ... but with time the battery got better ... once it was even good for 3 days!
Ok,I do not use it much but still wifi,bluetooth and NFC are always on,listen to music on it 1-2h a day,few calls and that's it....the rest I do on my PC.

Posted by doministry

On 2017-04-10 18:46:46, admad wrote:

On 2017-04-09 15:39:40, ascariss wrote:

On 2017-04-08 17:14:07, admad wrote:

On 2017-04-08 03:10:43, GRANEDE wrote:
All right the review is up. http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xzs-review-1600p8.php#next
I disagree with gsmarena's opinion on xzs camera performance. They are many improvements in the image department from previous generation. But Sony still have lot of works to do if they want to people to consider the top three camera phone maker in the work. I still think they should go with 12mpx resolution for better low light performance.


Reducing MP has nothing to do with low light performance.


Of course it does, it's simple math .The bigger the area for light capture, the brighter the image with less noise and the better performance of the camera, especially in love light.


You have mistaken MP with sensor size. Changing Megapixel count has only minor importance. For example, let's say we have 1/2,3" sensor. You can have 8MP or even 32MP, it doesn't really matter, because 4 pixels of 32MP will catch roughly the same ammount of light as one pixel in 8MP. So, when viewing images captured from these two sensor at 8MP or less, the quality will be practically the same.

What is important is the lens size and how stable the light going through the lens is (OIS). At GSMArena they only test auto mode, you can get good night shot on tripod with correct settings, just set ISO40, shutter speed 1 sec and you will have beautiful night photo, as long as the phone will be on tripod

Which is sad cause i was gonna pre-order the Premium but now i'm waiting for the battery life test which by the looks of it would also be average.


Battery life on Xperia XZ premium will be very different, it has newer chipset and different screen resolution, as chipset will probably be in favour of better battery life, 4K resolution might take some extra juice pretty fast.
[ This Message was edited by: admad on 2017-04-10 17:47 ]


Definitely, it's visible on their lowlight test (chart).
Because of the auto mode each phone has a different setting applied.

Posted by doministry
Also this doesn't look fake, but unfortunately it's all Auto:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa8OmKzCJsE

Posted by MusaD.Dragon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTVbxGQPPkw cam comparison

Posted by Tibagy
Sony Xperia XZs: Camera Low-Light Performance Examined In Detail (GSMARENA)

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_[....]ht_tour_round_2-blog-24479.php

Posted by doministry

On 2017-04-12 04:25:22, Tibagy wrote:
Sony Xperia XZs: Camera Low-Light Performance Examined In Detail (GSMARENA)

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_[....]ht_tour_round_2-blog-24479.php


OKay. So this makes more sense!

Examining all those shots I can clearly see that some of them ARE REALLY IMPRESSIVE.
That just proves my point - Xperia works well when it has right settings.
And Auto sucks quite often.

Posted by Archdragoon
Well we all know that all Xperia has poor auto =...=

Here's some great super slow motion video from professional photographer.

He edit it with adobe premiere cc.

Super Slowmotion
[ This Message was edited by: Archdragoon on 2017-04-13 14:40 ]


Posted by Shino03
Really impressed with the slow motion videos.
I thought at first that this feature is a gimmick but to my surprise, this is really an awesome useful feature that is unique.

https://youtu.be/QoKxX0mKDXA

Aikido slow-mo!

Please, Sony market this properly!
This really has the potential to be a great seller for Sony!
[ This Message was edited by: Shino03 on 2017-04-14 04:26 ]


Posted by doministry
So looks like all the SCENES are gone on XZs, both Photo and Video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DhwgkgqBy8

Posted by doministry
Look here:

http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g6-review-1590p8.php

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_[....]ht_tour_round_2-blog-24479.php

Looks like G6 samples look actually worse.
Now it's interesting to see those standalone XZs samples look actually great with a proper setting,
and than see the same camera taking much worse pics while compared to iPhone.
XZs pics are instantly more blurry.

Posted by MusaD.Dragon
the front facing cam is outstanding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQbfcGgkhXA

Posted by XperiaJunkie

On 2017-04-16 12:25:42, MusaD.Dragon wrote:
the front facing cam is outstanding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQbfcGgkhXA


There's no comparison, XZs wins in stabilisation, sound, detail and colour accuracy. There does seem to be blue tint on both videos with the P10 the worse out of the two though. The stabilisation on the XZs is no joke I reckon it'll beat any phone on the market with OIS it's that good!!
[ This Message was edited by: XperiaJunkie on 2017-04-16 11:57 ]



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