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Posted by smclion102
All the power and smartness of Sony in a premium smartphone

key features:


A camera as intelligent as the human eye
Sharper. Clearer. Brighter. That’s what Sony’s compact digital cameras give you. And with Xperia Z1, we have created the best camera phone built with the very same components, packaged into a 8.5 mm slim smartphone. It combines a large 1/2.3” 20.7 MP Exmor RS™ for mobile image sensor, Sony’s award-winning G Lens and intelligent BIONZ™ for mobile image processing engine. This unique combination gives you images that are delivered with a superior sharpness, clarity and brightness – always.

[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2013-09-08 09:07 ]



Posted by smclion102
XPERIA Z1 XDA FORUM Root, Unlock bootloader and more!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2507


Post the pics clicked with YOUR Z1!


http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=206176


DIYHow to Build Your Own Smartphone Camera Cage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM8lxHhADII
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2013-11-11 04:58 ]


Posted by randomuser
Title should not have Honami Only Z1

Posted by smclion102

On 2013-09-04 11:52:56, randomuser wrote:
Title should not have Honami Only Z1


Will update soon
after official announcement
[ This Message was edited by: smclion102 on 2013-09-04 10:55 ]


Posted by Away
This must be the most leaked phone off all time?

Posted by gipsydanger
Can't wait till hands on Z1... So excited!!!

Posted by emerson_shei
First camera sample after the official announcement



Great quality

SOURCE: GSMARENA
[ This Message was edited by: emerson_shei on 2013-09-04 16:00 ]


Posted by admad
^ actually the image quality of this image is very average... Will have to wait for more, full res pics.

What's more interesting is this so called 3x loseless zoom, there are no details of it, makes me wonder if that's just crappy marketing -.-
[ This Message was edited by: admad on 2013-09-04 16:09 ]


Posted by Tsepz_GP
So no 4K UHD or a 32GB variant??? :/

Pretty phone as usual by Sony, everything else? Meh. Looking forward to the camera samples, considering the hype that was created in the Rumours Thread here I'm expecting its camera to wipe the floor with EVERYTHING available except Nokia's 808 PureView, I'd be very disappointed if the camera is on par or a bit better than GS4 I9500 and LG G2, it should destroy them.
[ This Message was edited by: Tsepz_GP on 2013-09-04 16:21 ]


Posted by moogoo
the wait to find out the price in the US is killing me. I can't see myself spending $900 for a phone, even one i love as much as this.

I hope it's a more reasonable $750 or less.

I can't wait to watch hands on and comparison vids

Posted by my ninja
same price every year... $500+ give or take a hundred..

Posted by tai020381
Pixel binning, ISO till 6400, 3X clear image zoom.... Super longing for the original updated photo samples~

Posted by moogoo
@ninja - you're kidding right? Z was $650 when it was finally available.. and that was MONTHS later. with a global launch same month, i'd guess $750ish.. it's at $900USD equivalent in germany and the UK..

i hope you're right though. cause that would be a STEAL. if i lived in europe, i would import it from the states and save so much money.

Posted by xenia
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sony-xperia-z1-fl.shtml
Screen is good))

Posted by tai020381
Look at this 1st in many areas! They did a photo comparison survey and stood out !~

http://www.sonymobile.com/glo[....]ults/xperia-z1/#camera-overall

Posted by Xajel
Xperia™ Z1 White paper (802 kB)

http://www-support-downloads.[....]tepaper_EN_c6906_xperia_z1.pdf

Posted by MNX1024

On 2013-09-04 17:46:40, moogoo wrote:
@ninja - you're kidding right? Z was $650 when it was finally available.. and that was MONTHS later. with a global launch same month, i'd guess $750ish.. it's at $900USD equivalent in germany and the UK..

i hope you're right though. cause that would be a STEAL. if i lived in europe, i would import it from the states and save so much money.



Calm down, no need to freak out. It should be around $750 for a phone like this. The only reason price are that high in Germany is because of VAT. Currently import price based on clove is around $735 USD.

http://www.clove.co.uk/sony-xperia-z1

Posted by my ninja
no global shutter, and no 24/192 audio profile.. interesting. also of note, Hi-Res Audio isnt mentioned in the WPaper.. no h.265 support either.

@moog, i never saw the Z at the price, the most i saw was for $600.. eventually it was $550+ the ZL was even cheaper of course.
[ This Message was edited by: my ninja on 2013-09-04 17:23 ]


Posted by moogoo
no global shutter is disappointing but not a deal breaker.

i'm not too familiar with audio profile/tech so i can't comment.

and if the price is $700 or less.. $500 even.. i'll be beaming with joy.

Posted by MNX1024
@my_ninja
Z did launch at $650 in the US, but price dropped below $600 real quick, think it was actually within first week.

Posted by itsjustJOH
This guy got a lot of sample photos, any photo enthusiasts here to judge?

Sony Xperia Z1 - first look

Posted by moogoo
it says its not the final firmware, so there's no point judging samples that aren't from the retail device now that it's announced. just give it more time and we'll be sure to see plenty of reviews/hands on with the FINAL device.



Posted by itsjustJOH
I know, but that should be pretty close to final firmware.

Posted by G3ORGE
Kinda disappointed,

Small sensor.
No OIS.
Also, 16GB... 16GB, Sony!?



On 2013-09-04 17:44:54, tai020381 wrote:
Pixel binning, ISO till 6400, 3X clear image zoom.... Super longing for the original updated photo samples~


Are you sure that pixel binning is like Nokia's PureView? And not just resizing?


On 2013-09-04 18:22:37, my ninja wrote:
no global shutter
[ This Message was edited by: my ninja on 2013-09-04 17:23 ]



What's a Global Shutter?

Posted by MNX1024

On 2013-09-04 18:34:50, G3ORGE wrote:
Kinda disappointed,

Small sensor.
No OIS.

What's a Global Shutter?


You're complaining about sensor size and lack of stabilization, and you don't know what a global shutter is?!?!?!

Posted by admad
For an early firmware and mobile-review, these photos are pretty good. Looking forward for a good looking 6400 ISO photo as Sony claimed


Posted by G3ORGE

On 2013-09-04 18:27:09, itsjustJOH wrote:
This guy got a lot of sample photos, any photo enthusiasts here to judge?

Sony Xperia Z1 - first look


Thanks for the link!

That looks pretty good actually, slight overprocessing, grain/strange colours on the faces and aliasing(look at the guy's glasses frame in the below pic) but overall pretty damn good.

http://www.mobile-review.com/[....]xperia-z1-fl/photo/photo07.jpg

@MNX1024, you know, instead of typing all that out, you could've just told me.
[ This Message was edited by: G3ORGE on 2013-09-04 17:57 ]


Posted by itsjustJOH
Crazy guys from O2 used the Z1 to drive a car!

Driving a car with the Sony Xperia Z1 smartphone

Posted by moogoo
GEORGE the pic you linked isn't the right one, but it's still pretty damn impressive. have to remember, you can't compare the photos to a dedicated compact camera or SLR. you have to compare it to other leading android smart phones.

with that in mind, it should and probably will, blow everything away.

Posted by G3ORGE
Thank you moogoo, corrected.

Yes, it is pretty impressive. I'm interested in comparisons with Galaxy S4 and others. Especially low light.

Posted by itsjustJOH
The futuristic-looking notification light at the top!

SteadyShot!
[ This Message was edited by: itsjustJOH on 2013-09-04 18:03 ]


Posted by motvikt
All I am interested in is the screen, is it good this time?! The verge said it was shit as usual

Posted by moogoo
motvikt.. got a link? and do they have screen comparisons or did they just rely on their eye?

EDIT: PhoneArena is reporting a 32gb variant? hmmmm.. but the whitepaper says 16gb.. so maybe PA is wrong as usual.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2013-09-04 18:23 ]


Posted by motvikt

On 2013-09-04 19:17:37, moogoo wrote:
motvikt.. got a link? and do they have screen comparisons or did they just rely on their eye?

EDIT: PhoneArena is reporting a 32gb variant? hmmmm.. but the whitepaper says 16gb.. so maybe PA is wrong as usual.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2013-09-04 18:23 ]



(...) "the new Xperia Z1 doesn't have a terribly impressive display. The problem is that Sony consistently opts for cheaper LCDs than its mobile competition, which shows in the limited viewing angles and washed-out colors on its handsets."

www.theverge.com/2013/9/4/468[....]z1-specs-features-release-date

Posted by Gitaroo

On 2013-09-04 19:37:42, motvikt wrote:

On 2013-09-04 19:17:37, moogoo wrote:
motvikt.. got a link? and do they have screen comparisons or did they just rely on their eye?

EDIT: PhoneArena is reporting a 32gb variant? hmmmm.. but the whitepaper says 16gb.. so maybe PA is wrong as usual.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2013-09-04 18:23 ]



(...) "the new Xperia Z1 doesn't have a terribly impressive display. The problem is that Sony consistently opts for cheaper LCDs than its mobile competition, which shows in the limited viewing angles and washed-out colors on its handsets."

http://www.theverge.com/2013/[....]z1-specs-features-release-date


the verge is retarded like always.

Posted by miromiromi
i think it's just the wallpaper. the wallpaper really looks washed out but if you start digging into the different functions, things look significantly better.

they have to really change that awful wallpaper. if it's just a photo they're using, the display really stands out.

that stupid verge writer does not even understand how triluminos displays work. it'd be stupid for sony to use quantum dots on cheap displays. he's just judging based on his impression of the wallpaper. that's why sony's also at fault. why on earth are they still using that awful wallpaper?

Posted by moogoo
verge is obviously stupid. they're even saying the Z Ultra's screen isn't impressive while EVERYONE else praises it greatly. how can that be? answer = verge is stupid

Posted by Del
So do we have an exact date of when the Z1 will be available

Posted by northmonkey

On 2013-09-04 20:12:48, Del wrote:
So do we have an exact date of when the Z1 will be available



16th September apparently from Clove.co.uk, 3 are selling it from 24th September.

Posted by angryman
I wouldn't trust the verge on giving any accurate or positive opinions on a non Apple product, they say that the colours of the Z1 are washed out like other Sony Handsets... the Z no doubt has bad viewing angles but saying that the colours are washed out is ridiculous.
With that said, the few hands on videos that i've seen on the Z1 have shown that the screen's viewing angles aren't that great. If that is the case, it's very disappointing and I'll wait until Sony does better in that aspect.

Posted by smclion102

On 2013-09-04 19:04:36, motvikt wrote:
All I am interested in is the screen, is it good this time?! The verge said it was shit as usual


Sony Xperia Z1 vs. Samsung Galaxy S4 vs. LG G2 : HD video screen TEST

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VXFuMXu-SQ

Posted by itsjustJOH
It's Z1 or G2, video too small to judge. But definitely S4 sucked.

Posted by moogoo
it's hard to tell from that distance.

S4 is a definitely 3rd place. G2 and Z1 have similar colors. but detail and clarity can't be judged from a distance.

at this stage in the game though, basically any premium smartphone is gonna have a very good screen.

Posted by Gitaroo
any photo sample yet?

Posted by itsjustJOH
^Browse back one page.

Posted by Del

On 2013-09-04 20:15:46, northmonkey wrote:

On 2013-09-04 20:12:48, Del wrote:
So do we have an exact date of when the Z1 will be available



16th September apparently from Clove.co.uk, 3 are selling it from 24th September.


Cheers bud

Posted by Bonovox
BIONZ processor for images and G lens now that is something I want from a Sony. Does this have S Master too??

Posted by northmonkey

On 2013-09-04 20:52:56, Bonovox wrote:
BIONZ processor for images and G lens now that is something I want from a Sony. Does this have S Master too??



No S Master and no OIS, the only two things that are missing.

Posted by itsjustJOH
^No mention of S Master.

Posted by northmonkey

On 2013-09-04 20:56:12, itsjustJOH wrote:
^No mention of S Master.


Confirmed here.....http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/03/sony-xperia-z1-press-release-leaked-full-spec-list-revealed/

No S Master.
[ This Message was edited by: northmonkey on 2013-09-04 20:01 ]



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