Posted by brownie1989
I have recently purchased the iPhone 4s and the iPad 2 but I feel as if they are too expensive. They cost to buy the phone / the iPad and they also cost the highest mobile tariff and then you think you are sorted but no. You have to buy apps / music / videos to make it even work. For instance adding a full hd movie without using iTunes saves it to the camera roll and really restricts the quality/ usability. Adding music without iTunes is also a pain. Connecting to computers using the iTunes program and waiting for the sync is also a nusence. And not to mention some apps having to be purchased twice for iPhone and iPad versions. As well as the uk restricted Siri. Don't get me wrong, I like the quality of the content on iTunes and the phones battery life etc. but my question is are they simply charging too much?
Posted by NightBlade
In short, yes.
Slightly longer answer:
The price is as it is - dictated by market demand and consumers' willingness to pay. Apple have simply managed to create a scheme whereby they can efficiently rip off their consumers without the latter minding.
[ This Message was edited by: NightBlade on 2012-06-21 19:20 ]
Posted by brownie1989
That's it I mean people big them up so much, but I don't think a lot of them realise there are cheaper alternatives that do very similar. I only adopted because a lot of people were rating them, but I can't see much difference between it and android, only the iOS seems more restricted.
Posted by chunkybeats
yes to both of your answers, I really do think they are a waste of money and really you are just buying into the so called cool factor which indeed is dead and buried for Apple. It is no longer cool to own an Apple device because every man and his dog has one which makes it a common phone and not as exclusive as what Apple want to make you think. I dont hate Apple, I have tried, owned and tested Apple products and its a complete no from me. I felt like I lost my freedom in what I wanted to do and Apple stole it.
I think it terms of owning a cool but exclusive phone would be the new Xperia's, the tech in the new phones is pretty special. For the future though I really do think Microsoft have finally found their winner with Windows 8. It has blown me away and finally have some proper intergration with devices and not stupid restricted rubbish that has be thrown in from Apple!
Sell them 2 devices and save up for a Surface tablet, it really does look like the trendsetter!
[ This Message was edited by: chunkybeats on 2012-06-21 21:50 ]
Posted by brownie1989
I might well do that because as you said it is sure to be a very high quality trend setter for the future. For all the negative comments Microsoft have had in the past, I truly believe that recently with Windows 7 etc they have made huge improvements. Don't get me wrong Apple will be a big player for a while and the iPad was revolutionary, but some people just prefer the unrestricted approach.
Posted by Miss UK
Boils down to VAT 20% UK
Blake the Government lol
Posted by chunkybeats
doesn't matter where you live , they are too expensive for what you're getting Blake.lol
Posted by Miss UK
there cheap in America fact
Posted by skblakee
They are not cheap anywhere and Apple has cornered just about every phone company that sells their products. Apple takes a cut of the money the companies make from selling the content and data over the iPhones and I pads, then there are the apps and the media which all have to go through iTunes. This in turn causes consumers to hsvento pay higher costs for the services offered through the phone companies beyond the ordinary. Because of this some companies are rethinking their deals with Apple because of the high costs of subsidizing the phones and how ,such of the pie they have had to give up to Apple.
In the next year many companies will giveprobably give Apple a fight over these subsidies. It is killing their bottom line. Sprint for instance in the U.S. had to sign on to a $15 billion dollar agreement with Apple in order to get to sell the iPhone.
In the end Apple presents a very expensive product which most costumers can avoid but probably do not know.
Not worth it in my books.
Posted by mriley
Chunkybeats makes a very good point, the iPhone was once cool and revolutionary, back when android was just being born and it's devices didn't compare to apple's. Nowadays, the iPhone is nothing compared to the competition. Not worth it by any means.
Posted by Bonovox
For a Tablet get the new Nexus 7. Far cheaper and quad core with Jellybean. ipads and iPhones are over rated expensive and yes restricted. @chunkybeats I agree about Sony being more exclusive and they are different with designs etc. I fail to see anything trendy about an iPhone. I would rather be walking down the street and be different. Not just that but yes the freedom and wherever I see Apple products they are seriously over priced. For something so restricted costing £600 for a 16gig 4S and yet you can get the GS3 for £100 less. Or Xperia S for even less that does much more. As for Windows 8 I really look forward to that for sure. Save your money. @Miss UK it's nothing to do with the government and they are probably cheaper in the US cos of weak dollar
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[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2012-06-29 02:23 ]
Posted by Miss UK
The Only object I think thats abit expensive is the Apple PC range Desktops and laptops, and some
floating contracts deal from the networks but those come down 4/6mths later ive seen again!
but them iPhones and iPads are priced normally maybe Androids are £50 cheaper but that still adds upto
£449.99 iPhones are £499.99 ive seen some Androids cost the same eg those Samsung things you lot love
so I don't understand the word expensive from the major few of you!
some of you just like to have a rant about apple cos they protect themselves from the opposite or
spend there cash on courts !
I get it guys if I had the opposite I prob feel the same but I don't im a happy Apple phone owner
so don't mess with me "POW"
[ This Message was edited by: Miss UK on 2012-06-29 04:39 ]
Posted by Miss UK
On 2012-06-29 03:11:00, Bonovox wrote:
For a Tablet get the new Nexus 7. Far cheaper and quad core with Jellybean. ipads and iPhones are over rated expensive and yes restricted. @chunkybeats I agree about Sony being more exclusive and they are different with designs etc. I fail to see anything trendy about an iPhone. I would rather be walking down the street and be different. Not just that but yes the freedom and wherever I see Apple products they are seriously over priced. For something so restricted costing £600 for a 16gig 4S and yet you can get the GS3 for £100 less. Or Xperia S for even less that does much more. As for Windows 8 I really look forward to that for sure. Save your money. @Miss UK it's nothing to do with the government and they are probably cheaper in the US cos of weak dollar
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[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2012-06-29 02:23 ]
Posted by Rookwise
I guess it depends on where and how hard you look. I do agree that Apple products are overpriced for what they are. Build quality fair enough but featurewise they're not much different from a mid/low tier high range product.
Play.com
Amazon
[ This Message was edited by: Rookwise on 2012-07-04 01:12 ]
Posted by Miss UK
Nice prices Andy !!!
Don't understand why the one was cheaper
It's the same phone right? Lol
Btw some apple products are a lil overpriced and have
Poor build those iPods are namely that !!!
I think the iPhone is better built then those and it's
Says to people like myself it's made to last I guess
Posted by chunkybeats
Seriously paying more for an inferior product = ripoff
Posted by Miss UK
its not inferior till the next one comes out
the GS3 is only a couple of quid cheaper anyway
what makes you think thats got the phone factor?
when people still are buying that apple phone?
Posted by etaab
That list is pretty endless Miss UK, which ive posted my opinion on millions of times here on Esato.
All you're doing is unintentionally fishing for the same posts from people like me. Get that deja vu feeling ?
Posted by Bonovox
People still buy iPhones blah blah blah. Samsung GS3 is in such high demand now Samsung are finding hard to keep up. So much for iPhone frenzy
Posted by Miss UK
Goodness first word of Samsung G3 and all the Tinbots
Come running into defend there prizely pocession!!!
Yo Etaab I didn't ask u I already know from prev
Posts what u think.
And bono drop the cos I know for a fact we could get one of those things after
2-3 weeks after it came out not months unlike the iPhone
As they had issues obtaining the glass a couple times or couldn't
Keep up with demand !
U guys need to chill out abit more before u pee yourselfs
Sorry but I've laughed myself out of gas for the night for ta ta
Posted by Bonovox
I am chilled it's you who keeps thinking we're all stressed out. All I'm doing is saying what I think
Posted by owlsfan_72
The 16GB Iphone 4s is £190 more expensive than the Xperia S when buying from play.com. You'd have to be clinically insane to choose the 4S
Posted by chunkybeats
so the potential iphone 5 will have a 4 inch screen lets all gasp at that! Seriously you must be blind if you call that revolutional! Apple ain't cool anymore, also people buying the 4s that's Apple IT fanboys and 80% of insurance claims because people are stupid breaking their old fruit phones. What's the saying blind leading the blind lol
I would buy an iphone sell it on ebay for twice as much then buy an xperia ion and the new Microsoft surface tablet! much better money spent!
Posted by Miss UK
Having a 4 inch display then having a big
Dick of a phone though
I'm happy with the 3.5 screen
Having something like a 4.6 or 5
Is too big for me may aswell carry
A concrete slab round
I get u guys have a hatred for apple
But get over it not everyone wants
The phone u may have
I read that main majority of wimmin
Own a iPhone anyway I even saw a eldary
Woman last week with one which was cool
My partners mom has her iPad to and she
Loves it!!!
Seems like the majority of apples buyers
Are lil wimmin like us!!!
And maybe biz types as u said Chunky
I wish u lot could stop all this bitching tho
It's so boring get over it who cares what
Apple does lol
Posted by Bonovox
Why do you keep saying get over it?? There's nothing to get over we just hate Apple
Posted by Bonovox
Oh Apple Apple why do you use Samsung tech yet sue the ass off them??
http://m.gsmarena.com/new_iphone_to_supposedly_feature_quadcore_exynos_4-news-4482.php
Posted by Miss UK
Well Apple exist in the phone world to and there not going anywhere so get of ur haters chair already
yeah nice intresting link the galaxy 3 also uses the same as the iPhone 4S camera chip if I recall
Posted by Tsepz_GP
You mean the Sony camera module? It uses that and a Samsung one, depends which region you're in.
Posted by Bonovox
Am staying on my haters chair it's comfy. And it's off my chair not of. Can't you spell??
Posted by Tsepz_GP
You two should get married then get a reality show
Posted by titus1
I really don't get it when people hate Apple/Apple products. As long as they keep on coming up with great devices...I don't care what they're doing in the backroom.
Posted by Bonovox
I hate their attitude towards the competition
Posted by titus1
And you we're greatly affected by that? To think that behind those countless lawsuit...they we're actually doing business with each other.
Posted by QVGA
On 2012-07-05 19:11:00, Bonovox wrote:
Oh Apple Apple why do you use Samsung tech yet sue the ass off them??
http://m.gsmarena.com/new_iph[....]uadcore_exynos_4-news-4482.php
I think that's a question you should be asking Samsung. Why they continue to get their ass kicked by Apple in court, yet are willing to bend over backwards to provide them with iDevice hardware? I know Samsung makes a lot of money like this, but considering Apple has literally been shitting on Samsung's face, Samsung needs to have a bit of self respect and start playing hardball. I know it wont happen because if there's one thing Samsung doesn't have, it's self respect.
Posted by Miss UK
On 2012-07-06 02:55:32, Tsepz_GP wrote:
You two should get married then get a reality show
I'd rather hang myself then marry that
Posted by Miss UK
This whole Apple vs android thing is like so lame
don't any of you think this too?
there just phones ffs
Apple have to spend there fortune somehow so let them Obliterate the competition!
[ This Message was edited by: Miss UK on 2012-07-06 23:41 ]
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2012-07-06 18:04:50, QVGA wrote:
On 2012-07-05 19:11:00, Bonovox wrote:
Oh Apple Apple why do you use Samsung tech yet sue the ass off them??
http://m.gsmarena.com/new_iph[....]uadcore_exynos_4-news-4482.php
I think that's a question you should be asking Samsung. Why they continue to get their ass kicked by Apple in court, yet are willing to bend over backwards to provide them with iDevice hardware? I know Samsung makes a lot of money like this, but considering Apple has literally been shitting on Samsung's face, Samsung needs to have a bit of self respect and start playing hardball. I know it wont happen because if there's one thing Samsung doesn't have, it's self respect.
Its business, its got nothing to do with self respect.
If you've paid close attention to all the litigation and market you'll find that the lawsuits have actually done more good for Samsung than Apple.
They have shon quite a bright light on Samsung's products and have worked as free advertising for them, and the funny part is that for every ban there has been a work around which has made the ban basically pointless, the latest being the Android4.1 update which will have the Galaxy Nexus back in stores next week.
the consumer wins.
Posted by Bonovox
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You two should get married then get a reality show Feelings mutual whatever did I see in a moaning boring so called woman
as for obliterating the competition don't you think that's a really stupid answer?? I mean come on as if that's going to happen. Imaging a world with no competition and only iPhones. Yawnage
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[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2012-07-07 00:39 ]
Posted by Miss UK
Oh god can't you go and crawl back under that rock you came from out of?
what gets to me about you is that you don't own a iphone yet ur quick to make all these stupid answers about them
you haven't owned a 4S only a bloody 2 year old iPhone 4 and thats nothing comparable you even had a Butchers over iTunes too alot has happened from 2 years you know!
sorry Bonovox u make me annoyed not the fact with these replys about apple but the fact I met you
cos you have shown ur true colours all over this poor forum and now everyone here well they must think who this hell is this Douchebag!!!! get a grip god!!!
ur like some sort of virus bloody annoying that wont go away lol
now eveyone wait for the reply from bonovox quick to defend himself doesn't take the matter to PM
either like the moderators told him to!
Sigh!!!!!
Posted by Bonovox
Oh for God's sake
Posted by titus1
Love is actually brewing here. And I'm like...Yey!!!
[ This Message was edited by: titus1 on 2012-07-07 04:45 ]
Posted by chunkybeats
can we close this subject? it's a dead duck, lets just see if Apple can pull something off but if they don't it will be the biggest flop ever! End of story!
[ This Message was edited by: chunkybeats on 2012-07-07 13:21 ]
Posted by Rookwise
I think this should get locked/deleted before it goes any further.
@Miss UK & @Bonovox
I've got to know both of you over the years either on Esato or elsewhere so I'm not gonna take any sides but tbh even I'm getting surprised at the two of you. Your both old enough to know better and any problems you have should be sorted out via pm. Not open publically.
You've both been/are respected and active members of Esato for quite some time (a lot more than me lately but I mainly just look more than post these days) but things are starting to get out of hand recently and virtually every thread has some degree of bickering from the 2 of you. Last thing either of you want is for mods to step in so please. Enough now. If you feel you can no longer get on then just leave each other alone and if you do have to leave a comment on the same thread. Word your comments in a way that its not aimed directly at the other and in a less agressive manner (both of you have done this imo).
C'mon guys sort yourselves out its not worth it
Posted by Bonovox
Posted by Miss UK
Well said Rookwise let me asure it's not me at fault
Here !!
I actually wouldnt mind if the mods did lock me / close my account
tbh I feel I have other input to put in far better
Places then come here nowadays
Sigh so anyway
Posted by Tsepz_GP
Lol, its become EsatoEnders
with the drama around here.
Posted by Miss UK
Wow they have rubbish like Eastenders over there do they?
I was thinking Jeremy Kyle tbh but I never watch it
Anyhooz have nice weekend
Posted by Bonovox
Yes it's never her fault
Posted by goldenface
Let it rest you two. You care about each other really.
Posted by Miss UK
FYC bonovox!