Posted by Firefreak
* BEWARE *... Performing some of the the procedures in this thread may result in problems with your memorystick. Please read through the entire thread and be well aware of what you are doing. * BEWARE *
I just plugged in my Sandisk 512Mb Duo Pro card and in the diskmanager in windows it says it has one 468Mb FAT16 formated partition and 465Mb unallocated space. A grand total of 933Mb.
Cant the 512Mb sandisk cards just be a pre-partitioned 1Gb card?
Anyone else seen this?
(512/468)*933= 1021Mb...
Do i dare use partitionmagic to allocate all 933Mb ?
Update. Seems people can format the 933mb but cant access more than 512mb anyway.
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Posted by PeterKay
Can you actually fit on 933Mb of stuff on it?
Posted by Firefreak
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No since that space is not partitioned yet... It's like partitioning a 80Gb harddrive with one 40Gb partition leaving the other 40Gb unallocated... but the unallocated space still shows up in a disk manager...
What I'm wondering is if anyone else has seen this and if I should dare to resize the partition to the full 933Mb...
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Posted by blackspot
What's the worst thing that could happen if you do that?
Posted by Firefreak
Funny thing though... the unallocated space only shows up when I connect my K750 via usb... If i put the memorystick in my memorycard reader it only shows the 468Mb partition with no unallocated space at all...
Bahh... I can't find a software that can resize and handle partitions on an USB connection... windows can't handle it.. it only shows me the info... partition magic don't even show me the drive... partition manager shows me the drive but says invalid I/O when I try to access anything connected to USB...
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Posted by Klorin
Cool, same thing here.. look:
Would be great finding a way to format that.
Posted by Phantomlynx
I've got the same card and as far as I can tell it is just 512.
Posted by bolo
I have the same thing in my disk manager!!!! How can we get this extra space? any ideas>?
Just had a look at the original MSD card provided by sony. Disk manager shows up with just 62 MB in the disk manager.
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Posted by Firefreak
I cant find any software capable of handling partitions on USB devices...
Help ?
Posted by djole89
Excuse me, but is the price same as MS Duo Pro card? If so, it's better to buy SanDisk, you get twice more memory for the same money!
Posted by MikLSP
@ Everyone that can see this 'extra' space. Does it only do it while in the K750?
In which case isn't it more likely just a glitch?
Posted by abe2000
There are 2 possibilities,
1. Just a glitch, its only 512MB.
2. They actually sell 1GB sticks as 512MB, but makes the rest of the space invisible in normal readers. This could mean there's actually a glitch in the K750i that shows this invisible space.
And yes, it's normal to sell "crippled" things for a lower price.
Anyway, if you really cant find any way to partition it in windows, my only advice is Linux!
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Ahh... didn't think of that... I'll try it at work next week...
Posted by etaab
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Exactly where do we find this ? id be interested to know if my 1GB or 64mb Duo cards have more space on them i could exploit.
Posted by abe2000
Right-click on My Computer and take Manage, after that Disk Management.
Posted by etaab
Cheers, i found it.
Posted by TheGlassJAw
dont be stupid. its clearley a bug.
Posted by rrojas260
You dont be stupid and shut up. This is a valid topic
Posted by gr3gg0
i thinks its something weird.... i doubt companies could do this for so long and then we just find out now theres extra space
Posted by etaab
Has anyone tried emailing Sandisk to ask them ?
They'd probably lie if you could use that extra space though, and say no you could not.
Posted by bolo
anyone got a sony 512K duo card they can test for us?
Posted by kozicka
Sorry to those that think this is stupid but hard drive manufacturers have been doing this for years.
It is cheaper for them to mass produce a 160Gb hard drive (2x 80gb platters) and then reduce the size of the drive to 120gb by software/hardware means than it is say to produce a 2x60gb platter drive and a 2x80gb platter drive.
It is entirely possible that the san disk cards are hardware or software reduced to 512mb.
Of course the other 512mb may not work and it is a failed 1gb card that cant be used at full capacity, but then again it may not.
In this day and age mass production is key to low prices, and i think its cheaper for them to do it the above way than different size drives/disks.
Still, you take your chance as to whether the extra portion on the card/drive is functional or not.
Posted by Itanium
Although the arguments like companies crippling their products is valid and sounds good but I would say this really is some bug in reporting by card or the way windows retrieve this information from memory sticks.
Proof? well take a look at the attached picture. This is my 256MB Sandisk Memory Stick PRO Duo. Now no one would possibly be thinking that its a 4GB card crippled to 256MB
Posted by petrutms
cool. that would be something !!!
Posted by etaab
It would be worth trying though..
Posted by TheGlassJAw
see, a bug.
disc platters and memory modules are completly diffrent, that is totally irrelevant
now look what you all did. you made it rain outside!
Posted by Coeuz
I just got a Sandisk 512 card, and I was looking around to see if anyone else had noticed.
I haven't dared to allocate the space yet, but I might try and hand back the card if I f**k it up
Posted by Firefreak
I've tried connecting the phone to a Xandros 3.0 linux computer but I can't find any disk manager in it.
Posted by turdeater
i have a 256 stick and it also shows it has 235 meg or unallocated space and 236 meg in use. has anyone found away to unlock the space. From what i can gather due to a little research is that as stated previously they just produce 1 chip such as the 512 and use software to partition it as it is cheaper than actually using plants to manuf different chip sizes. It makes perfect business sense and it would also seem that the k750i can see through this little hidden section and if possible with the right software could free up the space.. there are some people discussing this on another forum i am regestered on ill keep you posted ehre with any new info.. keep trying
Posted by pham0100
I just tried to repartition my card. It does show 936MB of space and it is formatted as such. HOWEVER!!! It automatically says that 469MB is used, leaving with 467 available only. So... I have no idea what's taking up that space or why... anyone else have any luck?
Posted by themarques
If anyone is using OSX then give it a try, use Disk Utility in the App folder and Format it..loads of formating options there.
Posted by anay
Anyone been successful?
Posted by anay
Just checked my 1gb duo, it has 948mb unallocated space.
Posted by pham0100
I've been trying it a few days now. I'm beginning to think it's a software glitch through the SEK750i drivers that double the memory when viewed through the Disk Manager. Repartitioning the drive creates a File Allocation Table that says there's 1gb instead of 512mb. But since there's only physically space for 512mb, the disk manager says 512mb is already taken leaving only the original 512mb... making no difference. This is just the same as slapping a 40oz sticker on a 20oz soda bottle. This is the only explanation I can come up with...
Posted by Jaax
I've tried the same with a regular memory card reader. Disk Management only shows 480 Mb FAT. No unallocated space. I think the "bug" is in the phone.
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Posted by MikLSP
So that pretty much settles it, a glitch it is
Posted by Firefreak
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Well... the space allocated and the unallocated space is not equal in size... can it have something to do with an ID tag or something on the sticks?
Posted by Dragonfly_TP
I think it is just a shadow of the main memory. Space you never had and never get.
Posted by tomcoolj
If this was true, it would be all over the internet by now.
Posted by anay
Just ried in my psp and the unallocated space is not showing.
Posted by Lembo
If only, sigh!
Posted by lazn
mine is 512 & i don't have this bug ...
((((((((
Posted by s0real
i get the same thing with a sony pro duo 512mb...
interesting... although i think it's probably just a shadow or something.
Posted by WildBit
I's just the way it's measured... try filling it up and see how much actually goes in
Posted by fu1at
well, some how mi did manage to m ake my 1GB high speed in to 2GB. it's possible due to some bugs...
but believe me... this make ya phone extremely slow when u powe on ya phone...
a normal 1GB in ya phone startup time need 5sec. but a buged card (1GB to 2GB) will make ya phone startup time extend to 15sec.
other that that... accessing files is damn slow. phone auto restart after media player played for 10min. camera very slow in saving pictures.
i can't stand it and i formated it... the bug just went off....
this is how i did to make it bug. however, i can't make it bug again... maybe someone can try this.
1. format ya memory stick on ya phone in computer to FAT32.
2. in the middle of the process unplug the USB cable.
3. restart the phone and format it using ya phone.
4. restart again.
Posted by Cenfi
my 512mb too... maybe its actualy manufacturer faulty?
Posted by walmsley_d
I rekon it could be the k750 has a 1gb limit but we dont know about it yet unless someone has put a 2gb or above card in it? and when in the phone it shows the formated part (the card) and the unallocated the rest left over cos not filled by a 1gb what happens with a 256 or a 1gb card anyone?
Posted by Lembo
masseur uses a 2Gb card.
What's it say on yours masseur!!!
Posted by fu1at
but i put it into a card reader.... it show me 2Gb as well... not only the phone....
i tried to put into P910i(max card is 1GB) it show card error... i am so sure i have a 2GB there... and i have show this to SE technical engineer too... they can't explain that... instead they wanna know how do i make it into 2GB.
it's possible.... not because of the lagg and restart that this "2GB" card give me... i won't wanna format it!
Posted by Sir-SonyEricsson-man
mine does not show it.. its a brand new %12 W800i Sandisk card