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Posted by julias
Just two days after the S4's launch, Apple released a webpage explaining why its flagship smartphone is better than the competition.

www.apple.com/iphone/why-iphone




Posted by johnd
Looks like that is a US survey only and was published in June last year, should be interesting to see the 2013 results. will Apple up their game or just try to convince the world that they are the best?

Posted by admad
Haha that's funny That's why I love Apple, they live in so much denial it's actually really funny. And what's best they have millions of worshippers.

"Only iPhone has Retina display"
They do know that each company now has a flagship that has a 50% more vivid and crisper display than their precious Retina display?:D Or the internet in Cupertino comes with a 6 months delay?

Posted by julias
Apple are definitely showing signs of desperation.

Posted by etaab
Its typical Apple. Which is why i hate them with every bone in my body.

They have won awards ? so have other manufacturers.

And as for the screen. Lets not even go there. What a stupid thing to claim. This just illustrates how stupid they think their customers are.

Posted by Miss UK
Etaab that's abit harsh I'm not stupid at all! Lol

Btw I'm sure apple have it covered I'm looking
Forward to the next phone they come out with!

Also new iOS 7



Posted by etaab
Im not saying you are. But Apple think you are. They really do.

Have you ever watched that advertisement video on their site, with the English dude who helps design the iPhones.

If i ever met him in person, i'd probably hit him with a fire extinguisher or something, the nearest heavy object or something. Ive never heard such self masturbating nonesense as what comes from Apple. Cheesy, sickly, stomach wrenching massaging of their own sex organs.

I feel physically sick when i see that video. So, when they claim only the iPhone has a retina display, they're right they do, but thats only the name of it. They actually claim such utter nonesense that they make me feel quite violently ill.

Now that cannot be good.

And then, after the nausea, comes the utter disgust as the ridiculous claims and F*****G LIES bury themselves deep into my intelligent mind.

OK i have issues !
[ This Message was edited by: etaab on 2013-03-18 22:17 ]


Posted by Tsepz_GP
Got to love Apple's website though, the attention to detail, the screenshots of the devices, the quality of the images, the font, colors used etc... What really is not helping is that I'm browsing with my iPad so the device itself is complimenting it all, for a split second I think "Hmmm, but what if I get this amazing iPhone5?" Seriously, if you are a compulsive buyer, you should totally avoid that website, it will get you into serious trouble.

Apple are showing signs of desperation now. What they should do is swallow their pride and make that iPhone HD with 4.5-4.8inch high res display, and throw in NFC but add some zing to it and make it seems as if they invented it and they'll be sorted. If they were to be the ones who add a Xenon flash to a thin smartphone then I'd say its pretty much over for every other phone maker.

Posted by chunkybeats
@etaab , I know exactly how you feel mate, especially with that annoying ad, the worst one being the panoramic feature and then say cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee etc etc etc etc etc se. Aimed for young buyers there. I have been there, felt that hatred and really got used to Apple and their useless and overhyped products, at the end of the day if they ever give people freedom of sharing then i would try them again but after owning a major defective iphone 4 and with it just out of warranty and Apple couldnt wait for me to put my hand my pocket. That was the darkside for me and since then gone back to my ever reliable Sony Ericsson (yes i know dinosaur) but jesus people who bitched about SE, I still have my Xperia Neo V, still going strong and never going kick the bucket (Ive had it now 20 months and for the price of it, it would of been the equivalent to fix that stupid iphone i once owned. I remember chatting to Miss UK on here about bashing Apple, after a while I got bored of it and now its just another tech company trying to milk billions.

Thought for the day I think is that these tech giants (not naming many but its a bit obvious with a certain 2) have brainwashed us all to need a smartphone. Especially the people who buy them just to play Angry Birds or Solitaire, they are mini computers with a power life of a london electric car. Just think 15 years ago, what was it then? What we were was a planet of people who could communicate and 'liking things', packing a sad because you broke up with someone on facebook or when the internet connection cuts out really shows how pathetic some of us its all about wanting and not about needing. People nowdays are so ill prepared for anything major and with that my philosophy is to remember how things were and how you would of done things without a so called smartphone (smart thats one thing they aint). Sorry just went off on a different direction there guys but just thought I would talk some interesting $h!t or am i actually showing my age??? i am only 33 but being in tech for so long feels like a lifetime!! actually i have just started a new post because of that last statement! here it is - http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=205472
[ This Message was edited by: chunkybeats on 2013-03-19 06:59 ]


Posted by Ranjith
Apple really needs to start to think.Only after iPhone5's release i ever heard Apple users start to complain.I couldn't believe my ears!
Every maker be it electronics or anything has a limited time of dominance...then some one else comes along.NOKIA never looked like going down,Apple too but Samsung is rising and rising fast.Samsung is definitely going to be the Nokias and Apples of the next 10 yrs.

Posted by DSF
I am loving the way Apple advertise things like they are the only one and the best. For example retina display )). There are display with better dpi than their retina phones.

Then the fact that their iphones can do more than others.. Where is the nfc? Where is an app for battery per process analysis or simple task manager that shows consumed resources per process (cmd line tools excluded)?
So both hardware and software lacks in different areas.

Apple, you are the only one that you can make a shit look cool.

Posted by Miss UK
Etaab I tend to stay away from the apple website
Cos it's rather teasing and annoying at the same time

Try and reserve something online at 9pm
It's like countdown!

Try and reserve a Genius Bar
Never many spots gotta wait up all night
And hopefully some person cancels

The apple site is all the above
I have the Apple store app on my phone
And I always refer to that so I guess I've not
Seen that annoying guy yet but I will prob have a
Nose if it really does get on ur tits hah

Posted by Bonovox

On 2013-03-17 10:03:13, julias wrote:
Just two days after the S4's launch, Apple released a webpage explaining why its flagship smartphone is better than the competition.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/why-iphone






Posted by etaab
The black iPhone 5 is gorgeous imo. Apple's site is very good, well designed and brilliant with its use of images etc.

And then they go ruin it completely by sticking some video of a bloke telling us how much he loves to use his iPhone for sexual purposes.

Not literally of course, but i can just imagine him laid on his bed with a bottle of baby oil, mansize tissues and a A2 size poster of steve jobs kissing an iPhone.

Posted by Bonovox


Posted by Bonovox
And here they go again

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-07/apple-seeks-android-source-code-records-in-samsung-suit.html

Posted by Miss UK
I like apples new advert about the camera lol
http://petapixel.com/2013/04/[....]ular-camera-in-new-commercial/



Posted by Ranjith

On 2013-05-20 16:17:04, Miss UK wrote:
I like apples new advert about the camera lol
http://petapixel.com/2013/04/[....]ular-camera-in-new-commercial/




Who said APPLE isn't smart?They disabled comments on YouTube for this video

Posted by Tsepz_GP

On 2013-05-20 16:17:04, Miss UK wrote:
I like apples new advert about the camera lol
http://petapixel.com/2013/04/[....]ular-camera-in-new-commercial/





I like it, it's a sort of big + middle finger and "Step your game up!" to the camera manufacturers, Apple are so ruthless it must drive some industry CEOs crazy when they see ads like this.

Posted by Away
You can take photos with the iPhone? Is the app called iCu? (Please hospitals, patent ICU before Apple do, lives could be at stake). A lot of people take photos with the iPhone?

Why does this not make me want to get one?

Posted by Supa_Fly

On 2013-03-17 21:03:38, julias wrote:
Apple are definitely showing signs of desperation.


Indeed!

Some things I no longer agree with:
"The worlds most advanced mobile operating system" sorry but this is just no longer true. Yes I'm aware that Android is very powerful and can be augmented to work with just about 10'000 devices but at that point its not really Android but Linux that is doing its thing. QNX being at the core of BB10 I'd also state has a lot of other things onto it but by far these two are much more advanced than what Apple is brining.

"Support comes with real people" ... yes there are human beings but "real"?!!?? Their just about as real as those hipsters already way too "fashionable" (whatever time of the month it is) and way too ... well lets just say it seems Apple is hiring anyone that seems remotely agile in their "orientation". They're getting worse at being technical to resolve issues and instead through something in a box and out a new box into your hand. I want to go and have my smartphone or PC serviced as in troubleshooting, not be seen as a piece of black chocolate meat to be serviced at any store I don't want to be picked up in any way (hetero/homo/dual/greeno whatever). What happens when that magical box swap no longer has something new and shiny in those boxes to hand out? (that is happening VERY soon by changes at Apple is working towards by Sept this year).

The majority of Apple's sales and progress of their products, and always has, been in the design quality (don't confuse this for build quality). Watches don't ding going through a subway turn-style and holding an iPhone 5 never made me feel I was holding something "substantial" lol.

MissUK, Don't be holding out too much for the iOS 7 ... if Apple doesn't get with standards via hardware and open up that software soon, many will jump ship this year. I say 3 months of great sales, then the realization hits that its just a fancier looking iPhone 4S that is lighter slightly larger screen. NFC alone, if Apple waits another year they'll miss out on exclusive partnerships that can evolve to something greater! (An example is BlackBerry's partnership with 1 of the 4 largest banks in Canada, CIBC with Rogers Wireless the largest carrier by coverage or subscribers, using NFC for mobile wallet purchasing. The real deal is using BlackBerry's infrastructure for the secure transactions, yet many scoff at paying for the service, specific SIM card to allow for this, and the limited device support 1 BB device. Those that scoff have no idea their existing and recently updated Bank/Credit cards (Visa or MC) are using BlackBerry's backend infrastructure going forward ... this is the deal Apple is missing on).

But hey ... competition is getting cut-throat and this is where we'll see the real strengths and ability to adjust into other markets for each manufacturer.

Posted by jameshopes
Yes, I agree with Apple. I have iPhone 5 and I am fully satisfied with the apple iPhone features. I always choose Apple iPhone as compared to other Smartphone’s of Samsung, HTC, etc.

Posted by admad
"The worlds most advanced mobile operating system" sorry but this is just no longer true


No longer true? Was it ever true?:D iOS is one of the most limited operating systems created. This so called most advanced mobile operating system doesn't even support simple file managing system. Not to mention bluetooth transfer, and memory card slot.

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Busy watching Apple CEO, Tim Cook, CFO, Peter Oppenheimer and Co. being grilled by US Congress over their tax practices, on Bloomberg. I expect more Silicon Valley companies to go through this over the next year, including Microsoft and Google.

Those with iPads can find the Bloomberg TV+ app in AppStore and watch it live.
[ This Message was edited by: Tsepz_GP on 2013-05-21 17:52 ]


Posted by DSF
The iphone 5 camere takes good photos if you have proper light. Too bad there is no option for wide photos (with stock app).


MissUK, Don't be holding out too much for the iOS 7 ... if Apple doesn't get with standards via hardware and open up that software soon, many will jump ship this year.

Most of the software limitations can be "removed" via jailbreak. There are many ppl that have a jailbroken iDevice. The rest really doesn't care about the limitations. They like the iphone as it is.

I was anti-iphone before, used Android for couple of years.. and now I'm using iphone 5 (jailbroken) for a couple of months. Honestly? The iphone 5 is smoother and more pleasant to use than my galaxy s 2 with JellyBean (tried stock roms, custom rom, cyanogenmod, aokp, etc). From keyword lags to transition lags . When I need to search an app with Google search widget I have to wait when on iphone 5 is almost instant. Ah, and most important, the battery is more efficient (better).

So, pro iOS:
- Smoother UI
- Better memory management on iOS. On Android the running apps are closed way more aggressively. So many frustrations when my browser (with many tabs) kept reloading on my S2 after opening 1-2 more apps . On iphone 5 (both have 1GB RAM) this is so much better.
- Smart multitasking API, including audio with dynamic toggles (eg: you can use the system audio toggles with different music apps, including 3rd-party and in-browser media streaming)
- Many Cydia tweaks (for jailbroken devices) just hooks on the stock apps adding different features. Eg AirBlue adds buttons for sendind via Bluetooth to music, video, photos stock apps. Or tweaks that improves the AppSwitcher.
- Better power management

In other words, iOS is not that bad as many think. You can enjoy it more if you free it with a jailbreak.
[ This Message was edited by: DSF on 2013-05-22 21:48 ]


Posted by Bonovox
Well,Nokia is even more brainy than Apple

http://www.wpcentral.com/noki[....]-makes-antenna-works-lumia-925


Posted by AbuBasim

On 2013-05-23 20:50:10, Bonovox wrote:
Well,Nokia is even more brainy than Apple

Considering how Nokia threw away global domination of the mobile phone market, that says a lot!

Posted by Miss UK
Quote:

On 2013-05-21 06:23:20, Hardened wrote:
\\r\\nOn 2013-03-17 21:03:38, julias wrote:\\r\\nApple are definitely showing signs of desperation. \\r\\n
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Lol about iOS 7 your right though
Wonder if it will be fished out for real with there new
Handset, I've heard there having lot of problems hence
Delay of new iPhone or other iOS devices

For me will see anyway ....I like the idea of a new phone
This year done well keeping my 4S for 2 years too, I used to get bored and trade in fast on other devices

Posted by Bonovox
http://allthingsd.com/2013052[....]-want-to-make-a-phablet-video/

Tim Cook on why no phablet

Posted by johandirano
I don't think so. I am using Galaxy S4 and it is much better than iPhone for example Galaxy S4 camera quality is much better than iPhone.

Posted by Miss UK
johandirano it prob is better don't forget the iPhone 5 is a year old phone (2012)

so comparing a new samsung of this year is a no go really!

compare when the the next iphone arrives

Posted by phoners
many people said that apple began to fall down after the death of jobs

Posted by Miss UK
They still make money lots of it though


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