Posted by ashyk36
The 3G and the 3GS is to be launched on orange later on this year
http://newsroom.orange.co.uk/[....]8/orange-to-sell-iphone-in-uk/
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Posted by Bonovox
Yes I just seen this on Orange WAP page. Good news its finally on another network
More choice for customers although I hope the network dont start getting congested like O2. But Orange have great 3G coverage. Are they going to ruin it with branding or will Apple not allow that?
Posted by tomjsmith000
Excellent news. A bit of healthy competition!
Hopefully I can upgrade without to much expenditure being a loyal Orange customer for years.
Posted by Merc_Man
Good news for a lot of people.
Hopefully they don't go over the top with the Branding!
Posted by Bonovox
Its not only better news for consumers but also Orange network is very reliable fast and robust. I rarely have problems with Orange at all except customer service in India not understanding you. The iphone may be a challenge for Orange customer service though. I am thinking though Apple surely wont let Orange over brand it and they should know customers wont like it. Interesting to compare tariffs and data tariffs on offer. Looks as though it will be on pay as you go too. I personally dont want one but its something new and fresh to see it on another network.
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Posted by PeterKay
good for competition but the orange logo on the iphone may put people off!
may look like this:
Posted by Bonovox
They should put it on the back at least. Next to the Apple logo should be Orange its all fruity
I am wondering though with this coming to Orange and then T Mobile and Orange merging wont this make Orange way too big? It might turn out alot of people moving away from O2 so O2 loses out then Orange gets too big.
Posted by Alpha Trion
Does this mean us existing Orange users can look forward to 'throttled' 3g & data speeds? & generally a slower network with the prospect of limited choice of further handsets other than the iphone now?
Posted by anonymuser
Orange have already had the iPhone for some time in other countries and not branded it in any way, so I don't see why they would in the UK, especially when they're going up directly against unbranded O2 phones. I doubt Apple would ever allow it, I'm pretty sure it's a precondition of any and every carriage agreement they strike.
I've no particular problem with O2 and not much of a fan of Orange, but if this helps to bring down the 3GS pricing a little then I'm all for it. It's almost certainly good news for my upgrade next year.
Posted by Bonovox
I am worried about data slowing down on Orange with the iphone coming. At the moment I get good speeds on Orange. I think perhaps the way Apple software is it would probably not make the iphone work very well with branding anyway. Lets hope it is cheaper too.
Posted by Alpha Trion
Points already being raised.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/te[....]ins_from_an_orange_iphone.html
Posted by Bonovox
Will this also mean Carphone will sell them on Orange too I wonder? Lots of questions from people. Lets hope if they offer it on pay as you go too that Orange offer a better data tariff cos on their pay as you go data is unlimited but at £5 per WEEK
Posted by londonlad123
At last! But it's only good news if it brings the price down. Which it might not. Also, still waiting for the 3gs in 8gb.
Posted by nicv27
On 2009-09-28 14:04:38, Boinng wrote:
Orange have already had the iPhone for some time in other countries and not branded it in any way, so I don't see why they would in the UK, especially when they're going up directly against unbranded O2 phones. I doubt Apple would ever allow it, I'm pretty sure it's a precondition of any and every carriage agreement they strike.
I've no particular problem with O2 and not much of a fan of Orange, but if this helps to bring down the 3GS pricing a little then I'm all for it. It's almost certainly good news for my upgrade next year.
Same here as long as my upgrade is a good deal i not bothered who has it. O2 have 99% of the time been perfect for me
Posted by Bonovox
Phones4U apparently are going to sell the iphone now too according to Mobile News.
Posted by Mr Miyagi
To be honest. Most likely the data will slow down on Orange when they get the iphone. O2's data speed in my opinion was good, and then it slowed with the Iphone. So I see the same happening with Orange, unless they invest in more in the data part of the network.
On 2009-09-28 14:12:00, Bonovox wrote:
I am worried about data slowing down on Orange with the iphone coming. At the moment I get good speeds on Orange. I think perhaps the way Apple software is it would probably not make the iphone work very well with branding anyway. Lets hope it is cheaper too.
Posted by anonymuser
Forget this - it's now on Vodafone - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8278073.stm
Posted by Bonovox
Orange have good data tariffs on pay monthly now. On tariffs over £30 its either 500mb included or an extra £4.89 for unlimited data. On tariffs under £30 its £4.89 for 500mb or £9.79 for unlimited. So its not bad we shall see what they offer with the iphone
Posted by Mr Miyagi
Bonovox to be honest i believe voda and orange will offer similar type tariff's to o2 for the iphone. i am sure i have read some where, where the iphone is on more than 1 network in other places the networks have all offered similar deals. i guess this is because the amount the networks have subsidized the handset costs from Apple. So we will wait and see, however 95% sure it will be similar prices to be honest, and the main contributing factor of switching to a relevant network in the UK for iphone would be based on network speed for data and customer service etc.
Posted by Bonovox
Yes I guess your right. I am on Orange and although I dont want an iphone though it does look nice I would choose Orange. Their network for me is always reliable rarely I get problems 3G coverage is superb everywhere I have been even in small seaside towns. And also their tariffs and data plans imo are as good as any. Plus Orange by far have the clearest call quality of all networks as far as I am concerned which is important to me. Vodafone is horrible call sound and I am just fussy
Even though the networks may have similar data tariffs I think the price of the iphone should come down. Or it should be free on cheaper tariffs. I noticed the 3GS is free on £75 per month tariffs on O2 and imo thats over the top price for something not really all that special. Other phones offer more I am only discussing this cos I wish to. I dont think ANY mobile phone is worth the price of 2 year contracts as the price of the phone is by far less the the full price of the contract. Its all one big rip off imo To me the iphone is just an ipod touch with phone functions slapped on its not that special. Yes I know the interface is great and it has useful apps but its still not enough for me to sign up. I would rather buy it on pay and go.
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Posted by anonymuser
I think there are a lot of people out there who'd agree the iPhone is a very special phone. Yes it's just an "ipod touch with phone functions slapped on" but only in the same sense that everything else on the market is "just a phone" without the ipod touch bit. And an ipod touch with phone functions, and all the apps at its disposal, is actually a pretty powerful, pocketable, mobile computer - far more than the sum of its parts.
All that said, yes O2 are charging too much of a premium for the 3GS. Unlike in the US where Apple cut the price of the 3G and slotted the 3GS into the previous model's pricepoint, O2 simply maintained the 3G at the same old price it always was and added a premium to the 3GS. I can't help thinking this was probably because (a) they could, as they had the monopoly on it at the time, and (b) they knew that monopoly was coming to an end soon so wanted to milk it for all it's worth.
I hope the competition normalises things a bit so the S version is a little closer to the original pricing of the 3G when it was launched - it wouldn't surprise me if the older 3G didn't disappear altogether soon anyway.
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Posted by fatreg
The iPhone from how I understand it, is a iPod with a phone, rather than a phone with an iPod...
Posted by masseur
November 10th is the date for iPhone 3G and 3GS availability on Orange according to The Guardian
I'll still be waiting for the Vodafone offering as my contract ends in January
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2009-10-02 14:56:53, fatreg wrote:
The iPhone from how I understand it, is a iPod with a phone, rather than a phone with an iPod...
I see it as a powerful phone, with iPod software and powerful QuickTime for video playback and the ability to have some seriously powerful applications. Think of it as a feature phone on quality 'roids!
you guys that try it on Orange will go nuts with games like Real Racing GTi!
Posted by phonecrzy
i doubt orange will brand the iphone, but that will put non-iphone orange users thinking that "only when u get an iphone you get no branding"
Posted by Mr Miyagi
does anyone think that orange will introduce the iphone on pay and go at a cheaper price than o2? also do you think the iphone on orange will be locked or unlocked? i am going to hold out in buying it on pay and go until orange brings it out and see what happens with price.
Posted by fatreg
11th November not 10th
2 years after the original iPhone went on sale well the day after.
Posted by masseur
iPhone first went on sale on November 9th 2007, here's the press release, which presumably is why Orange will start selling them on the 10th
Posted by larry 68
This probably explains why o2 are currently fleecing its customers with the SATIO which is officially released by o2 on the 10th
I hear the new retentions system goes live on o2 this weekend, maybe they will try a bit harder to keep custom once they have competition from Orange etc.
Posted by Mr Miyagi
On 2009-10-31 18:25:12, larry 68 wrote:
This probably explains why o2 are currently fleecing its customers with the SATIO which is officially released by o2 on the 10th
I hear the new retentions system goes live on o2 this weekend, maybe they will try a bit harder to keep custom once they have competition from Orange etc.
what new retentions system are o2 doing? not heard anything from them doing this.
Posted by larry 68
People on the o2 forum have been talking about it and have had it mentioned by o2 when they've called retentions,
could be all talk but 1 or 2 people seem to be in the know so guess they are probably o2 staff.
Posted by masseur
posted on behalf of HIJET
On 2009-11-02 11:32:20, HIJET wrote:
orange price plans for the iphone see link
http://interest.orange.co.uk/[....]ommsiphonelaunchdateisrevealed
Posted by masseur
ok, I've had time to look at these now and apart from the £30 plan where you get double minutes and text on Orange compared to O2, everything else seems like they just copied O2 tariffs, doesn't it?
Posted by anonymuser
Pretty poor showing really - ok, the £30 tarriff is slightly better value, but it's basically O2 pricing still - complete with the big premium on the 3GS and the same pricing on the 3G that it launched with more than a year ago.
If you just have to have it on Orange then it's good news I guess, but otherwise - meh.
I'm more than a year into my 18mth contract now, and find it very bizarre that if I was in the market for a new phone right now I'd almost certainly end up with exactly the same iPhone 3G 8GB, for £99 on a £30pm 18mth contract that I bought last year... the 3GS is still too pricey, and none of the other deals make sense for me. At this rate, I'll be hanging onto my trusty 3G for a long while yet.
Posted by masseur
My 18th months is up in mid Jan and if Vodafone end up doing the same prices then I'll prob just take myself back to tmob 'coz I definitly am not staying with o2 after that
so much for competition!
Posted by Bonovox
Orange already said there was not going to be a price war. Bit stupid really but people are still going to get it because its something new an iphone with another network. I personally would choose Orange or Vodafone never O2 again and T Mobile definately not. At least its on pay as you go too
I think they will sell well on Orange because there are many people still who dont like O2. I might just be leaning towards getting one as i am on Orange though not contract. I am kind of starting to like it but never wanted one on O2. Crap network imo.
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Posted by Mr Miyagi
So much for the so called iphone tariff/iphone price war. am gutted. i was hoping orange would have dropped the prepay price and i would have bought it from them. guess i will just get it from o2
Posted by Bonovox
They got it out at the right time with Christmas coming up. Though with the credit crunch people may not spend so much this year. With the high price of the iphone on pay as you go people just might not be able to afford it. Only the fortunate few with rich parents or good high paid jobs. I am just waiting for the data speeds on Orange to slow down. At the moment i get reliable good speeds on Orange with consistent reliability. But i know its going to get worse. Well i hope not
Posted by anonymuser
I'd be really surprised if Orange added enough iPhone subscribers to slow down their network with these prices. I think most of the people waiting for this will now be wondering whether to keep on waiting till Vodafone join the fray after christmas - or perhaps waiting to see how O2 respond, since there's nothing to choose between them as it is. The only thing to swing it is network loyalty, and that doesn't run all that deep on either side.
I can't help thinking that if you've resisted the iPhone this long, you're not likely to leap now at the chance to sign up to Orange for the same deal you could have had off O2 more than a year ago.
Posted by Bonovox
I aint signing no contract i am staying with pay as you go. But also how will Vodafone fare? Will they be any better with pricing. I have a feeling they will because Vodafone seem to be pretty clued up imo. They can sit back and watch the iphone market see how it pans out when they get it next year they can try beating all of them.
Posted by masseur
Now that Orange has laid its cards on the table, Vodafone are in a great position to capitalise on the same-same pricing of O2 and orange and they should announce some great pricing NOW to stop people buying into the Orange iPhone
Posted by Bonovox
I doubt it will stop people buying it on Orange. It will still sell i think to existing Orange customers or loyal customers. But Orange need to entice new ones.
Posted by Bonovox
From what i have read today 250,000 registered online for an Orange iphone.
Posted by Caspa
sure many are like me though... registered to see what the deal is, now seen it and think... YOUR HAVING A LAUGH!!!
Posted by Bonovox
Actually i just read all the information on Orange Wap page. Tom Alexander boss of Orange says over a million now have registered interest. Apparently 2 of the tariffs have a difference of 1p
lmao. I would still buy it on Orange because i never have any problems with them and their network is quality.
Posted by masseur
well, its out today and if you're into Orange Wednesdays... there's an app for that! (iTunes link)
Posted by Bonovox
There's an app for just about..........anything
Posted by goldenface
If Vodafone don't enter the arena with better deals then this might as well be some sort of cartel.
It seems to have been such a cash-cow for O2 that the other operators want an equal slice of the pie, because right now, having more than one operator to choose from doesn't seem to be working in the consumer's favour. Not how a market should work really is it?
On 2009-11-04 00:12:00, Caspa wrote:
sure many are like me though... registered to see what the deal is, now seen it and think... YOUR HAVING A LAUGH!!!
Plus with just having one operator to choose from previously there must be loads gagging to move over to a different one.
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Posted by Bonovox
But also at the end of the day people want an iphone on a network of their choice. Variety is the spice of life
If i could choose it would not be O2 because i think their network is crap.
Posted by Bonovox
Is the Orange pay as you go price the same as O2?