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On 2008-04-20 08:31:20, >500 wrote:
they should just whack the k800 camera module on the x1.

On 2008-04-20 08:33:26, crossmatched wrote:


and reduce the N-R program

On 2008-04-20 09:44:32, Xajel wrote:
I dont' know why some insist on having CCD rather than CMOS, infact CMOS can be much better in some cases, I didn't say CMOS is better but it's better some times, tobe honest both are equal in image quality at this time, it was old days when CMOS was not that much but now both are equal, except in low light where CCD is better

to prove what CMOS can do, take a look at 'Canon 1Ds Mark III' & 'Canon 5D' & 'Sony Alpha A700' all are Pro or Simi Pro DSLR cameras and ALL are using CMOS sensors !!

infact both are same, but CMOS can work with fewer components and uses lower power + it's smaller than CCD in the same pixel count, these two things are very valuable in mobilephones.. maybe the third one is problomatic, as smaller sensors makes more noise, but in mobile phones where space is precious, larger sensors will need more focal length too and bigger lens and and and, this is bad in mobile phone

just a question, comparing to other's manufacturers 5MP solutions, what are they using CMOS or CCD to have better picture than 's 5MP solutions ? well I think have to choose better higher quality sensors only no matter of CMOS or CCD...

On 2008-04-20 09:44:32, Xajel wrote:
I dont' know why some insist on having CCD rather than CMOS, infact CMOS can be much better in some cases, I didn't say CMOS is better but it's better some times, tobe honest both are equal in image quality at this time, it was old days when CMOS was not that much but now both are equal, except in low light where CCD is better

"to prove what CMOS can do, take a look at 'Canon 1Ds Mark III' & 'Canon 5D' & 'Sony Alpha A700' all are Pro or Simi Pro DSLR cameras and ALL are using CMOS sensors !!"

infact both are same, but CMOS can work with fewer components and uses lower power + it's smaller than CCD in the same pixel count, these two things are very valuable in mobilephones.. maybe the third one is problomatic, as smaller sensors makes more noise, but in mobile phones where space is precious, larger sensors will need more focal length too and bigger lens and and and, this is bad in mobile phone

just a question, comparing to other's manufacturers 5MP solutions, what are they using CMOS or CCD to have better picture than 's 5MP solutions ? well I think have to choose better higher quality sensors only no matter of CMOS or CCD...

Jc, not the first time you bring in dSLRs when defending CMOS against CCD, is it?

I agree with you about the need for better quality CMOS sensors. But since you mentioned the A700 dSLR, Sony's huge IMX021 12 MP sensor is of course a great improvement over older CMOS sensors but still quite a long way to reach the IQ of CCD sensors. Read the specs and compare the IMX021 with the ICX495 5 MP CCD used in the i-mobile 902. Pay attention to the cell size (pixel size) and sensitivity on page two of both PDFs. Notice that the cell size is six times larger in the IMX021 while it's sensitivity is only three times higher. Wouldn't that mean that a EXMOR sensor has to be twice as large as a CCD sensor to reach the same sensitivity?

On 2008-04-19 12:24:27, chombos1 wrote:
emmmm..
i am wondering what is that?


[ This Message was edited by: chombos1 on 2008-04-19 11:44 ]

On 2008-04-20 05:45:09, Prom1 wrote:
We ALL though that very SAME thing about SE's legendary 2MP +LED + AF from the K750i when it was put into the P990i. Although it takes GOOD pictures, it didn't compare. Why? The camera & LED went from platform phone designed from the ground UP to flaunt it. The Symbian OS Core & UIQ was not "designed" that way from the ground up.