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digitaldanuk
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Posted: 2007-11-22 12:08
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Hi, when will this become GA on orange? I have a sim free phone but with an orange PAYG sim card in. Can i flash it to 37? Im still on 29, tried to update using the service but said it (29) was the latest version
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Posted: 2007-11-22 13:21
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If it's a SIM-free phone, the fact that you have an Orange SIM card in it is irrelevant. [addsig]
Gupster
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Posted: 2007-11-23 01:10
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well it seems i found out what the H in the blue 3G box is. Apparently its a faster 3G, they call it 'turbo 3G'or 'Hyper 3G'.

again they said do a master reset to fix my speaker problem, which did not work, or wait for the dec 10th update or send it bak to them.

i believe ill wait for the update. fingers crossed.

Gupster.
jmcomms
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Posted: 2007-11-23 01:50
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H = HSDPA, which is indeed faster. It's 1.8Mbps or 3.6Mbps (and also 7.2 and 14.4, but the phone doesn't support either of these).

HSUPA refers to Upload speeds and these will increase next year, but the phone doesn't support that at all.

HSPA refers to both (taking away the D and U for download/upload).
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Sebby
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Posted: 2007-11-23 10:57
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Talking of the "3G" and "H" symbols, I've seen the latter on my handset with R1CA029. I read that it was new in R1CA037, but obviously it's not... [addsig]
alanjrobertson
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Posted: 2007-11-23 11:58
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@Sebby - from the other posts I've read it appears that the H appears on some networks with 029 (mainly O2 I believe, certainly doesn't on T-Mobile) but with 037 it is more consistent across all networks - still waiting for the update so haven't been able to see for myself yet.

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Posted: 2007-11-23 14:52
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I'm on T-Mobile and I've seen "H" on 029, but only once. [addsig]
jmcomms
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Posted: 2007-11-23 14:58
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The firmware doesn't matter, H only shows on some networks (e.g. Vodafone), even if the network definitely has HSDPA in that area. I created the confusion because when I got my phone updated by SE HQ, I happened to put a Vodafone SIM in first to test it! I've said that elsewhere on this thread, but at 30+ pages I'm not surprised it's been missed.

It's either down to the way the network identifies HSDPA as being enabled (such that the phone doesn't show it at the top), or perhaps it doesn't actually work (which would be a more serious issue) on some networks. I'm yet to do a speed test on Orange (UK) to see if I'm getting 3.5G/HSDPA speeds where I know I would with another handset.

Another odd thing is that when I am on the train and go into some rather long tunnels, the phone always drops to 0 bars and the G switches to E. Now, considering there's no coverage on any network in the tunnel (except GSM-R for the railway), I find it rather unlikely that there's any EDGE coverage there. In fact, I know there isn't.

EDGE coverage on Orange is pretty abysmal - and when you change from GPRS to EDGE, you'll often find such a long delay before any data flows that you might as well have stuck with GPRS.

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alanjrobertson
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Posted: 2007-11-23 15:20
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Thanks for clarifying, Jonathan - I think between this and another thread discussing the same issue (http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=157780) I got a bit mixed up!

Cheers

Alan

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martinbickley
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Posted: 2007-11-24 04:23
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Have just updated my unbranded UK K850i using the Update Service program on the phone.

Have now got firmware R1CA037, previously had 029.

Hope this helps people.


Martin
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Posted: 2007-11-24 07:56
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So R1CA037 has been released officially from the built-in FOTA feature in the phone? That's a huge news..
Sobo
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Posted: 2007-11-24 08:08
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Finally,some good news about the firmware.thx
aremaboy
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Posted: 2007-11-24 08:13
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Quote:

On 2007-11-24 04:23:30, martinbickley wrote:
Have just updated my unbranded UK K850i using the Update Service program on the phone.

Have now got firmware R1CA037, previously had 029.

Hope this helps people.


Martin



How big is the update file, Martin? 3 MB? 6 MB? FOTA seems just work in certain area..
AndyXS
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Posted: 2007-11-24 09:12
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Just fyi.

No updated firmware for the K850I via FOTA in germany using a free and unbranded device.
marinedisco
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Posted: 2007-11-24 09:28
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I am also not able to update mine from the fota server.
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