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Posted: 2003-12-30 21:39
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They're dressed as orc's for a while in the film too.
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Posted: 2003-12-30 21:43
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On 2003-12-30 21:37:56, peeta wrote:
Isn't one of the scenes cut from the film gandolf's taming of saruman right at the beginning of rotk. Also i guessed while watching that also cut was the bit where frodo and sam are dressed as orc's?


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The entire Voice of Saruman chapter was cut from the films, which is the chapter in which Gandolf "tames" (nice word choice) Saruman. This takes place in TTT, but was on schedual timeline-wise to take place at the begining of the ROTK film. It was cut entirely, and Pippin simply found the palantir glowing under the water, thus leaving Saruman and Grima unresolved.


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Posted: 2003-12-31 19:54
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I will be seeing this film again tomarrow afternoon. I'm optimistic that this film will win best picture, but something still tells me it's just not possible.


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Posted: 2003-12-31 20:04
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Will there be another sequel ?
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Posted: 2003-12-31 20:15
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On 2003-12-31 20:04:20, jojo51069 wrote:
Will there be another sequel ?



Oh no. There is talk of PJ making a made for TV version of The Hobbit staring Ian Holm and Ian McKellen, but that's just talk at this point. As far as more Lord of the Rings, all that's left is the extended version of the ROTK DVD.


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Posted: 2004-01-06 01:19
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I can't believe we have to wait until next December for this DVD. Torture.


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Posted: 2004-01-06 19:48
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...18 November it is!
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Posted: 2004-01-06 20:16
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Well at least that's better than December.


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Posted: 2004-01-07 07:16
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better than 2 towers
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Posted: 2004-01-07 16:37
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I would have to say that Two Towers is my least favorite of not only the films, but the books as well. On top of that, my two favorite parts of the book wern't even in the film, so yeah I'd say ROTK is better. Although overall I'd say filmwise Fellowship is my favorite.


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Itīs a big miss that "Tom Bombadill" and "Saruman destroying Shire" isnīt in the film!
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Itīs a big miss that "Tom Bombadill" and "Saruman destroying Shire" isnīt in the film!



I feel both of these elements would not work on film. From a movie stand point the end of ROTK drags enough as it is, adding the scouring of the Shire would only make this much, much worse. As for Bombadil, just try to imagine that on film. How would you even cast an actor? Not only would it be extreemly difficult to transfer to film, but even in the best possible case (which Jackson could most likley produce) I feel it would still distrupt the main plot of the story too much to warrent keeping it in the film.


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Posted: 2004-01-08 20:12
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This sunday I was on the Lord of the Rings Exhebition. There it was supposed to be a model of Orthanc. But in the space where it should be there instead was a note that said:
This miniature is currently being used for filmeg The Return Of The King. It will soon be back.
Wicked, ay! Wonder what scenes they are recording?
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Posted: 2004-01-10 02:52
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IMO the omission of tom bombadil from the first film was no loss whatsoever. as a character he served no purpose, and completely ruined the book for me when i read it.

i would have liked to see the resolution of the saruman plotline but Peter Jackson omitted it because he felt it would be re-finishing the second movie rather than continuing with the third. and it would have been difficult to justify the razing of the shire after half of the characters involved were omitted from the first film.

my only gripe is that the film could have easily ended at least five times in the last half-hour. the reason it seemed to drag was that they kept hitting a logical conclusion to the film, then kept going. great for the purists, but not so great for those less familiar with the book. that, and for no apparent reason aragorn seemed to gain about 20 kg.
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IMO the omission of tom bombadil from the first film was no loss whatsoever. as a character he served no purpose, and completely ruined the book for me when i read it.

I wouldn't go that far. His interaction with the Ring is very interesting in my opinion.

my only gripe is that the film could have easily ended at least five times in the last half-hour. the reason it seemed to drag was that they kept hitting a logical conclusion to the film, then kept going. great for the purists, but not so great for those less familiar with the book. that, and for no apparent reason aragorn seemed to gain about 20 kg.

There were enough changes made for the general public already, the ending absolutley had to resolve the characters.


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