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Topscooby traded me a phone which has become blocked. |
Mike.P®
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On 2007-02-15 20:10:34, fatreg wrote:
i reckon you got to think laterally...
my PM is a way to solve it.
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But if I did as you suggest then by Topscoobys own PM that he sent me I would be partaking in an insurance fraud and would therefore be breaking the law by selling it on.
I couldn't have that on my conscience.
I could infact sell this to anyone on the forum and then just walk away from it saying its not my problem, the phone is part of an insurance scam and you will have to take it to the police .. who will probably take the phone away from you and you will be left with nothing at all.
I think thats just about how the PM from Topscooby went anyway.
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liverman666
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I don`t buy for one minute that Topscooby bought this phone off Ebay and didn`t even turn it on to check that it was working OK?
Sounds VERY far fetched to me,unless you are a complete idiot.
The phone should have been checked for being blocked before it was even advertised on here by Topscooby,as when he places the advert on here he assumes responsibility for that phones condition/operation.
At the end of the day,sounds like it`s Topscooby that`s been stitched up,and Mike shouldn`t have to bare the brunt of it.
Just my thoughts.....................
Good luck Mike.
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scottt
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Where did it say he did'nt turn it on? He did as he was using it for a while???
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Mike.P®
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Cheers for that but I must say in Topscoobys defense that when he sent it the phone was working.
Normally how it works is that the seller on Ebay will wait until 6 weeks is up so that the buyer can no longer file a dispute to reclaim their money.
In that time the buyer has also usually left feedback as well so the seller is totally bulletproof in every respect unless the original buyer goes to the Police.
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dougproctor
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Just to chuck in my two pennies worth. If Mike had bought it on Ebay using Paypal, he could have claimed for an item not as described and done a chargeback. Why is it Mike's fault, as the buyer, that the phone has been blocked? It is not the person who sold it to him but the guy on Ebay who probably sold it knowing it was going to be blocked.
He ought to be refunded the amount of its worth surely? Just give his seller a chance to sort it out. |
liverman666
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On 2007-02-15 21:10:08, Mike.P® wrote:
Cheers for that but I must say in Topscoobys defense that when he sent it the phone was working.
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Ahhh,right. Now I see! Been barred SINCE you`ve had it?
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Dogmann
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Hi Mike,
I have already answered this once in Topscoobys thread but will repeat my answer here.
Hi Topscooby
I would contact the seller and ask what has happened as if this is what has happened and this is the case he is guilty of committing insurance fraud and both the insurance company and the Police will prosecute him.
Marc
Whilst this is of little comfort to you at the moment Mike IMHO Topscooby has at the very least a moral obligation to help you sort out this matter and as he has the contact with the E-Bay seller only he can help resolve the matter. But someone here is guilty of insurance fraud and the last time i was in a Police station to report an incident there were large notices warning reporting a phone stolen that wasn't was a criminal offence and would be prosecuted.
I wish i had a simpler solution for you but i really don't think there is one and as already pointed out reporting the W950i stolen when you have sold it and have been paid for it would leave you open to prosecution and IMO is not the right thing to do especially as this now also has been traded to an innocent 3rd party.
Now if TopScooby does nothing to help resolve the issue that is completely different and you would be within your rights IMO to both publicise this fact and take whatever action you felt appropriate including if necessary issuing a County Court Summons which is both inexpensive and simple to do but hopefully it will no come to that.
Marc
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Mike.P®
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On 2007-02-15 21:25:23, Dogmann wrote:
including if necessary issuing a County Court Summons which is both inexpensive and simple to do but hopefully it will no come to that.
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I had actually given that idea some thought myself to be honest and have already been looking into it tonight on the net.
I still have all the original PMs and bank receipt for the money I paid him as part of the trade plus delivery details and even the Special delivery slip.
Thanks for your input.
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Topscooby
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I have read with interest all the comments that have been posted on here regarding this matter.
I am about to leave home to start my nightshift so i can't take the time to reply to them now.
However, i will post up the full situation report about this phone tomorrow when i come home for anybody who is interested in the 'other' side of the story.
Thank you.
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Mike.P®
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personally I would like to read this other side of the story because as far as I am concerned that is exactly what has been said and I have it all in your PM's.
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PeterKay
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Hope you guys sort this out as i am the man in the middle, Topscooby does work some heavy hours and i'm sure MikeP he will sort this out with you. Dealt with Scoobs many times and never had a problem.
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On 2007-02-15 21:10:08, Mike.P® wrote:
Cheers for that but I must say in Topscoobys defense that when he sent it the phone was working.
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themarques
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http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=141795
What do u guys think of this for future purchases?
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Mamber
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@themarques
Great minds etc.........
We may as well join this discussion together then, as I posted this much earlier!
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=141675
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Adi23
Joined: Dec 29, 2004
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Some of you people must be MAD.
Anyone who sells someone a blocked phone intentionally or not is at fault and needs to provide a refund immediately. Buying a blocked phone is the same as buying a non-functional therefore the item was not as described.
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