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scotsboyuk
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Posted: 2004-12-20 17:41
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@meths

How dare you take fij's name in vain!

I can see where you are coming from, but I think fij's point was somewhat more involved than that.

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Long, time no see; welcome back.

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methylated_spirit
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Posted: 2004-12-20 17:44
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But what about:

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fijbert said:

I'd hv to go with when the whole place got over run with noobs.. that's when I decided it was time to move on




When asked about his least favourite thing in esato, in your interview?

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scotsboyuk
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Posted: 2004-12-20 17:50
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@meths

That was a single interview question, hardly space for a detailed reply. If you read fij's initial post in the thread I linked to in my last post he does go into more detail.
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methylated_spirit
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Posted: 2004-12-20 18:00
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You are a gobshite, scots. And so is Fijbert. Whining about "my esato is changing"...get over it. Its not your esato. Just because you've been here awhile gives you no right, absolutely none, to complain about it changing, or the amount of new members joining. They have the same right as you to be here, and post their opinions, the same as you and fijbert, and the rest of the "veterans" who decry new members do.

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scotsboyuk
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Posted: 2004-12-20 18:09
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On 2004-12-20 18:00:06, methylated_spirit wrote:
You are a gobshite, scots. And so is Fijbert. Whining about "my esato is changing"...get over it. Its not your esato. Just because you've been here awhile gives you no right, absolutely none, to complain about it changing, or the amount of new members joining. They have the same right as you to be here, and post their opinions, the same as you and fijbert, and the rest of the "veterans" who decry new members do.




Godd grief! Chase me, chase me! What a reaction!

I don't believe I have ever used the phrase 'my Esato', nor to my knowledge has fijbert.

I have also never complained about the number of new members joining Esato, in fact I actively welcome more members. As you may or may not recall, I post in the newbies forum sometimes to welcome newbies to Esato.

I have also never stated that newbies have no right to state their own opinions, or any othe rmembers for that matter.

I have every right to complain about Esato changing, since members are allowed to post their opinions and this is the Esato Forum. If you don't like that opinion, well tough.

In essence I am not terribly sure why you are complaining. I may be an opinionated pompous gasbag who takes a paragraph to say what could be said in a single sentence, but I do, at least, have some form of coherent reasoning to back up my drivel.

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You are a gobshite, scots.



Swearing usually denotes a lack of vocabulary, you will find a dictionary to aid your vocabulary here.



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Posted: 2004-12-20 18:34
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Put your handbags down chaps. It could be said how thing have not changed...
scotsboyuk
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Posted: 2004-12-20 18:35
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@mince

I always keep my handbag with me, I keep my sandwiches in there.
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methylated_spirit
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Posted: 2004-12-20 19:45
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Scots, i remember several recent conversations with you, in which you talk about "the way esato was" and "its going downhill, i wish old members would come back". Maybe, now this is a long shot, maybe you need to get a grip? Whats with the myriad "is esato this, that, or the other" threads recently, anyway?
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Posted: 2004-12-20 19:57
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On 2004-12-20 19:45:00, methylated_spirit wrote:
Scots, i remember several recent conversations with you, in which you talk about "the way esato was" and "its going downhill, i wish old members would come back".



Indeed that is true, I think my opinions on such topics are well known. I do think Esato has gone downhill somewhat when compared to when I first joined, I have said so before.

I do wish several of the members who have left would come back; I think Esato has lost something with their departure.

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Maybe, now this is a long shot, maybe you need to get a grip? Whats with the myriad "is esato this, that, or the other" threads recently, anyway?



Perhaps it is indicative of the way many people feel about Esato? Perhaps it is suggestive that people are unhappy with Esato? Rhetorical questions aside for a moment, I personally know of several members who hold similar views to my own, I am not a lone voice, although perhaps I am the most vocal in airing those views.

What is interesting is that you criticise such ideas, yet have no knowledge of what Esato was like in the time period myself and others refer to. You have no comparison to make.
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slattery69
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Posted: 2004-12-20 19:59
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i dont think people wishing certain members would come back or saying that esato was more fun/ better is a slur on new members or would put them off posting.
it could be related to the fact that when certain members were around there was a lot more comedy i am thinking of when people like pachy boyi etc were around more there were some very funny thinks going on.
thats not to say new members ruin the site they dont they are the life blood of the place.
there are clicks on here but they are of such small numbers they could in no ways do anything to influence the running or way the site goes.
like someone said earlier and i said myself if new members are not posting its more down to there personallitys and what they are like in life in general than what the people on the site are doing.
if you have confidence then posting were noone knows anything about you should be a breeze
methylated_spirit
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Posted: 2004-12-20 20:15
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No, i cant talk about the past here at esato, but i can talk of the here and now, and it seems just dandy to me. It looks silly, pehaps even petty, when you all talk about "the good old days" so much. There is nothing wrong with it, but thats ALL the veterans do. Perhaps they are out of touch, and instead of trying to scare new members off by waving your fists and growling, they should make an effort to become more involved with them, instead of making snide and smart-ass comments. THEN esato would be absolutely brilliant.
slattery69
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Posted: 2004-12-20 20:35
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i have to say i see very little of this waving fists that you talk about. even if a few people do this why would a new member be put off. its an internet site noone knows who you are or anything about you. as far as i know scotsboy could be male/female maybe from scotland if so that makes them 1 of 4 million people.
its down to confiendence if you are scared off by someone telling you to search then you may as well give up on doing most things in life as you lack confidence.
this site 99% of the time is very friendly i m on every day not posting just reading and i dont see people getting flamed or attacked. not sure if you were about when vermaina was about as you would know what flaming was then, though i always felt there was a sense of humour with it.
but on the whole i really dont think there is a much of this fist waving and believe its making a mountain out of a mole hill
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Posted: 2004-12-20 20:41
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I see a middle ground between slattery69's line of thought & meths. I am new, yet I post extensively. Times, I write things that border on presumption. But no wise-cracker is going to cow me. The pouncy fellows need to change, but the issue of whether to post or not is subject to the newbie himself.

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scotsboyuk
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Posted: 2004-12-20 21:58
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@slattery69

Hear hear! I don't see that remembering a time I liked on Esato 'puts newbies off' or marginalises them in any way. Am I calling for there to be a ban on new members? Certainly not, as I said previously I welcome and actively encourage new members to join Esato.

I don't see that the veterans are attacking newbies, if anything there seems to be something of the reverse; those members who have been around for a while having a pop at the veterans. Why shouldn't we want our friends to come back again? Why shouldn't we want those members who we knew and loved to become active again? We want the newer members to be able to enjoy the fun we used to have along with the fun we have at the moment.

I fully agree with the sentiment that someone who is put off by something as petty as 'use the search' really is a bit of a wet lettuce. The ones dispensing such nuggets of wisdom tend to be those members who have a few posts under their belts and have a tad too much 'confidence', and perhaps get a little carried away. They don't necessarily mean any harm, but perhaps they just get too enthusiastic about Esato.

How many active members does Esato actually have? There are over fifty thousand registered users, but how many actually post? I would imagine it is a small percentage of that, and I doubt the majority who don't post have been 'put off' by veterans.
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OluYom
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To buttress a point from Scots, I do know that the generality of people on my regional thread are newbies. And they haven't ben "pounced" on yet, but they hardly post anywhere outside of that thread. Yes, the majority of Esatoeans hardly post at all. There must be some other factor beyond the fear of "pouncy" (would-be) veterans.

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