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Posted by Tibagy


Google Pixel 2 XL Key Features:

- 3G Network: HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100

- 4G Network: LTE 700 / 800 / 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600

- Nano-SIM Card And eSIM

- Connectivity: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Dual Band, DLNA, Wi - Fi Direct, Wi - Fi HotSpot, Bluetooth v5.0 With A2DP/LE/APT-X HD, NFC, MicroUSB v3.1 And Type-C 1.0 (Reversible Connector)

- GPS With A-GPS Support, Glonass

- Dimensions: 157.9 x 76.7 x 7.9 mm

- Weight: 175 Grams.

- Display 6.0" P-Oled (~538 PPI Pixel Density) With Always-On Display And Corning Gorilla Glass 5

- 64 Or 128 GigaBytes Memory Internal (UFS 2.1)

- Expansive Memory Up To 256 GigaBytes

- 4 GigaBytes Ram LPDDR4X (3.648 GigaBytes After The System Boot)

- CPU Qualcomm MSM8998 Snapdragon 835 Kyro 280 Performance Quad Core 2.35 GHz And Kyro 280 Efficiency Quad Core 1.90 GHz
(SemiConductor Technology 10 nm LPE)

- GPU Adreno 540 (Octa - Core Graphics @653 MHz)

- Android 8.0.0 (Oreo) Minimum 3 Years Of OS And Security Updates

- Office Document Viewer (Word, Excel, PowerPoint And Reader PDF)

- Camera Dual Pixel 12.1 MP With Laser AutoFocus, EIS, OIS And Led Flash

- CamCorder UltraHD (2160p @30 FPS)

- 8 MP Front Facing Camera With Fixed Focus For Video Chat And CamCorder FullHD (1080p @30 FPS)

- FingerPrint Sensor Reader (Back-Mounted)


- Dual-Microphone With Noise Cancellation

- Stereo Speakers

- Active Edge™

- Aluminum Unibody With Hybrid Coating

- IP67 Certified For Dust And Water Resistance

- Standard Battery Li-Po 3520 mAh (Non Removable) With Fast Battery Charging: 50% In 36 Min (Quick Charge 3.0)

- Available In Just Black And Black & White Colors
[ This Message was edited by: Tibagy on 2017-10-15 15:30 ]



Posted by Tibagy
Meet Google Pixel 2 XL| More, More, More

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpLVsR8cSFo

Posted by McKinley
Just black is just for me.
The camera samples so far promise a lot for the picky users.


Posted by Tibagy
Hands-On With Googles Pixel 2 XL: More Pixel, More Google

https://www.anandtech.com/sho[....]nds-on-with-googles-pixel-2-xl

Posted by Tibagy
Quick Hands-On Look At The New Google Pixel 2 XL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAysguKkmxU

Posted by aussieland1
Pixel XL 2 is nice but no headphone jack , no memory card at a price higher than Note 8 (which is already very expensive ). I think I will keep my original XL for another year

Posted by badassmam
The is no doubt that this is a fantastic device which pretty much does well in every aspect except that it looks awful, its too expensive for that design.

Posted by Ranjith
Misses some essential features and doesn't look great. The S8 does all that and is very affordable now..soon the N8 will follow suit. Again, the G6,V30 & U11 are also pretty solid options over this as long as you arent desperate for a vanilla android.
[ This Message was edited by: Ranjith on 2017-10-06 09:33 ]


Posted by moogoo
You guys are forgetting the price point provides you with 2 years youtube red, unlimited photo storage at full quality and 100TB of google drive storage. that alone is worth a lot of money. the vast majority of users use their microSD card to store photos and videos, which can now be stored on google's cloud.

i admit it doesn't look the greatest but it does have front facing stereo speakers and a solid OLED screen and a camera that promises very impressive results. every flagship that has been released is asking for around this price point to start. I think google is pretty much on par. it just depends what you need or want. if i were in the market for something new, i'd get this over the N8 cause it offers more of what i would use vs. the N8.

Posted by aussieland1

On 2017-10-06 12:38:57, moogoo wrote:
You guys are forgetting the price point provides you with 2 years youtube red, unlimited photo storage at full quality and 100TB of google drive storage. that alone is worth a lot of money. the vast majority of users use their microSD card to store photos and videos, which can now be stored on google's cloud.


The Google photos upload is only until 2020 and I am pretty sure (though not 100%) that it is the same for 100 TB

Posted by Ranjith

On 2017-10-06 13:44:35, aussieland1 wrote:

On 2017-10-06 12:38:57, moogoo wrote:
You guys are forgetting the price point provides you with 2 years youtube red, unlimited photo storage at full quality and 100TB of google drive storage. that alone is worth a lot of money. the vast majority of users use their microSD card to store photos and videos, which can now be stored on google's cloud.


The Google photos upload is only until 2020 and I am pretty sure (though not 100%) that it is the same for 100 TB

and which also means one will need to stick to the pixel line up for life.

Posted by moogoo
yes there's a time limit, but your photos don't get deleted or anything. you'll just be limited like everyone else after 2020. but that's in 2 years time, so you'll be looking for a new phone most likely anyway.

not sure about the online storage and sorry, it's not 100tb but 1TB haha. 100tb is way excessive. i wasn't thinking.



Posted by hboy857
Other than not having a headphone jack ( which is a deal breaker for many - quite understandable) I don't see any major flaw.



Overall the best android phone release this year, IMO.

Oh, I forgot to mention one important thing - It'll hold it's value much better than other android flagship phones. Even samsung failed to hold their initial price for too long. It's not even a month but note 8 is already almost 100 dollar cheaper than the original price. That is just sad for the most "Premium" android phone maker. I'm not going to mention Sony here because we all know how fast their price drop.
[ This Message was edited by: hboy857 on 2017-10-06 16:19 ]


Posted by profyler
Agree 100%

Google is not a company that will make some phones here and there anymore.
Google is a full player now and probably the one who will always fight Iphones to the Edge. With their $ on R&D I might say it will pass all other major player like Samsung, Lg etc.

Posted by aussieland1
I agree that 3 years is still a very good offer for Google photos . I also agree that this is going to be a v fast phone (my Pixel XL feels as fast as the s8 plus and Note . But I also think that it is an expensive phone and the fact that it holds its value is not necessarily a good thing - unlike the iPhone it doesn't sell as well so resell value won't be great .

Oh and by the way Bixby button can now be deactivated 😉

Posted by hboy857
Some unbelievable photos taken from pixel 2 phones. Unedited.
https://photos.google.com/sha[....]ZGdUlwQ0l6aEdFT1UwVlg2LUZESDhn

Especially impressed by the high dynamic range despite having a smaller sensor than previous one. Who needs dual camera when your phone can take Portrait photo this good.
https://photos.google.com/sha[....]ZGdUlwQ0l6aEdFT1UwVlg2LUZESDhn

Look at this night photo. Unbelievable colors and detail from such a small sensor.
https://photos.google.com/sha[....]ZGdUlwQ0l6aEdFT1UwVlg2LUZESDhn
there are plenty noise in the sky but it doesn't bother me much because of high level of details and color it captures.

BTW, That bixby button is a total abomination.

Posted by aussieland1
Great photos indeed .

Dual camera is more than portrait more though- zoom 2c is also very useful . Would lo e to see a comparison between Google portrait more and Apple /Samsung portrait mode

Posted by McKinley
Holy ****!
The photo quality is unrivalled or am I just being overly optimistic?

Posted by Sassho
Mid-range quality from Pixel 2 XL by LG , maybe Pixel 2 from HTC shoot better.

Posted by Tibagy
Google Pixel 2 XL / Google Pixel 2 Photo And Video Samples - There's a Puppy And Portraits Inside

https://www.gsmarena.com/goog[....]puppy_portraits-news-27607.php

https://photos.google.com/sha[....]ZGdUlwQ0l6aEdFT1UwVlg2LUZESDhn
[ This Message was edited by: Tibagy on 2017-10-08 17:20 ]


Posted by hboy857
Tibagy, double post. It's the same link I posted 2 days ago.
Sassho, I hope you are joking.
McKinley, no you are not. Photos really do look unrivaled.

I hope next year google would put a monochrome sensor with regular sensor. I would love to see even better pic in low light, with better texture preservation, even lower noise and even better dynamic range. 2x zoom, zooming capabilities in smartphone in general, is appealing to many people but not to me. I prefer overall better pic quality. Pixel 2 improves their zoom score mark than previous pixel without adding second camera ( according to dxomark ). Obviously It's still can't match the dedicated zoom hardwares like note 8, iphone 8.

https://www.technobuffalo.com[....]-new-flagship-over-the-note-8/
https://www.technobuffalo.com[....]e-pixel-2-xl-vs-galaxy-note-8/



Posted by hboy857
Samsung should start worrying about Google. Samsung's biggest challenge will not come from its long term rival (apple) but from a long time friend (google). The way I see it Samsung's biggest advantage over other manufacturers is their huge lead in display tech. But that too will come to an end soon. LG's P-oled has huge potential. It's already solve the burn in problem in oled display but it has its own problems too like - it is still more power hungry than samsung's amoled. I believe in 2019 oled from LG and Samsung will match. They will both start using TADF material for their oled from the same company in 2018. I believe their difference in quality will shrink very soon.

Other factor like - RAM and Memory - Hynix and toshiba will start producing their advance manufacturing tech in 4q 2017 that will match samsung's best. Google don't have rely on samsung on these things.

Camera sensor - Sony already lead in this and It'll continue to lead for at least 5 years. Despite whatever samsung fanboys believe.

Design - With HTC's dedicated engineers working on pixel, google will be able to bring much better design with faster timeline. Rick said it in recent interview.

The most interesting part is that Google has showed us that they are willing to give pixel features that are not found in pure stock android. These features are genuinely impressive - always music recognition, turn on silent mode automatically while driving etc.

Future is really bright for Pixel team. Reviewers seem really enthusiastic about pixel hardware and i'm sure they (most of them) will rated it higher than note 8. Google seems to be playing a longer game here -
They are willing to spend millions of dollars in advertising. Google has deep pocket to spend on ads for years without any major consequences. They have to money to open physical store in different parts of the states.

If google can become a major player in USA and Canada it'll put huge pressure on samsung. Huawei and oppo are taking over europe. Xiaomi is taking over india. Samsung will face stuff competition - google will attack it from above and chinese player will attack it from below.

Of course, it'll not happen overnight. In the meantime google will tighten their gripe on supply chain to ensure their phone will have enough parts to make enough phones.
My bet is on 2019 pixel ( Pixel 4 ). I must say- It will be interesting to see how pixel's hardware change the landscape of the android world.
[ This Message was edited by: hboy857 on 2017-10-09 03:34 ]


Posted by aussieland1
I would love nothing more than for Google to a make a viable.competitor for Galaxy flagship. First thing they will need to though is make sure the supply constraint is dealt with. First generation of pixel XL was notoriously not easy to find for a good couple of months (until May June 2017). Unless this is solved I don't think Samsung has anything to worry about

Posted by Tsepz_GP

On 2017-10-09 04:31:09, hboy857 wrote:
Samsung should start worrying about Google. Samsung's biggest challenge will not come from its long term rival (apple) but from a long time friend (google). The way I see it Samsung's biggest advantage over other manufacturers is their huge lead in display tech. But that too will come to an end soon. LG's P-oled has huge potential. It's already solve the burn in problem in oled display but it has its own problems too like - it is still more power hungry than samsung's amoled. I believe in 2019 oled from LG and Samsung will match. They will both start using TADF material for their oled from the same company in 2018. I believe their difference in quality will shrink very soon.

Other factor like - RAM and Memory - Hynix and toshiba will start producing their advance manufacturing tech in 4q 2017 that will match samsung's best. Google don't have rely on samsung on these things.

Camera sensor - Sony already lead in this and It'll continue to lead for at least 5 years. Despite whatever samsung fanboys believe.

Design - With HTC's dedicated engineers working on pixel, google will be able to bring much better design with faster timeline. Rick said it in recent interview.

The most interesting part is that Google has showed us that they are willing to give pixel features that are not found in pure stock android. These features are genuinely impressive - always music recognition, turn on silent mode automatically while driving etc.

Future is really bright for Pixel team. Reviewers seem really enthusiastic about pixel hardware and i'm sure they (most of them) will rated it higher than note 8. Google seems to be playing a longer game here -
They are willing to spend millions of dollars in advertising. Google has deep pocket to spend on ads for years without any major consequences. They have to money to open physical store in different parts of the states.

If google can become a major player in USA and Canada it'll put huge pressure on samsung. Huawei and oppo are taking over europe. Xiaomi is taking over india. Samsung will face stuff competition - google will attack it from above and chinese player will attack it from below.

Of course, it'll not happen overnight. In the meantime google will tighten their gripe on supply chain to ensure their phone will have enough parts to make enough phones.
My bet is on 2019 pixel ( Pixel 4 ). I must say- It will be interesting to see how pixel's hardware change the landscape of the android world.
[ This Message was edited by: hboy857 on 2017-10-09 03:34 ]



You say all this, but do you have backup of the scale these guys will produce?

Remember, one of Samsung's key strengths is that they can build these things (Display, Memory etc...) quickly and in large numbers. The very reason Apple and others go to Samsung is that Samsung is unrivalled in their capacity to build all these things quickly.

Even with the Google Pixel, do Google have Distribution contracts that can match Samsung? Samsung can launch and do launch their devices at 1 time globally, I'm taking availability in EMEA, APAC and NAM regions within a week. I have yet to see even Apple match that, let alone Google. The only company that could match that was Nokia in their heydays.

We can go on claiming that Samsung are in deep trouble, but are we going to ignore the fact that they still take the 2nd largest chunk of cash in mobile and they to have deep pockets, in fact their pockets are so deep they made more profit last quarter than some large Silicone Valley companies like Google and Facebook combined:
https://www.sammobile.com/201[....]ble-tech-company-last-quarter/

I just don't see any of what you said happening. Google seem content with their limited distribution of the Pixels and most of the other OEMs don't have as thoroughly consistent model ranges across the globe as Samsung.

With Apple investing billions already into Samsung for greater production for iPhone X, Samsung is going to be very difficult to beat in the next couple years in terms of production capacity, give this a read, Samsung will also be making big profit from the iPhone X:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/[....]an-the-galaxy-s8/#4de26b3352c2

It's nice to sit and claim all this doom and gloom for Samsung, but the numbers speak against Samsung's Android competition dramatically.

Most Android manufacturers are already struggling to even make profit on their entire model line, yet Samsung will make an estimated $10billion from the S8 & $14billion from the iPhone X, on top of the huge investment Apple made into them, Samsung are also currently building a huge factory to help ramp up production even further.

I don't like to get into arguments like this, but let's just be real here mate.

EDIT:
Almost forgot this:
http://fortune.com/2017/07/07/samsung-galaxy-8-apple-iphone-8/

Samsung came from the largest mobile phone debacle to being the most profitable tech company in the Q.

This is not going to be a walk in the park for its competitors.

Forget marketing a product as Samsung can do that to with little consequences, let's just talk R&D, which is an area Samsung spend a ton on, this is what helped them pretty much own most industries they are in.

There's this to:
Samsung topples Intel as world’s largest chipmaker
https://www.engadget.com/2017[....]-as-world-s-largest-chipmaker/

2019 is too close to predict for, Samsung themselves are forever expanding their business, so while Google negotiate more contracts in more countries for Pixel, Samsung shall also be solidifying their dominance and tightening up their already existing agreements in every inch of the world that they exist, the Google don't.

The USA and Canada market are saturated, notuch growth to be had for smartphones there, the markets like India, and Samsung is well aware and will be pouring tons into it




No Threat to Samsung, So Far
While conceding that Samsung’s shares have been fluctuating, CMR’s Kawoosa doesn’t see a distinct threat to the South Korean major. “We don’t see a face-off between Samsung and Chinese brands any time soon,” he says, adding that even if it happens, Samsung is diligent enough to decide its own course. The two strengths, says Kawoosa, that will help Samsung are its sheer size and technology intellect. Further, Samsung is important in several segments through the value chain, such as memory and processors, he adds.
Warsi too doesn’t see any threat to Samsung’s dominant position. Sipping on masala tea and looking out the window at the concrete jungle of Gurgaon, he offers pearls of wisdom. “Any brand that stays connected to the consumer will stay connected to the market,” he says, adding that there are no shortcuts and there is no rocket science behind cracking the Indian market. Credibility and an understanding of Indian conditions over the past two decades have been pillars of its success, reckons Warsi. While other brands were planning to hop on to the Make in India bandwagon, Samsung upped the ante by focusing on another aspect which might have been missed by others: Make for India.
A Make for India task force, comprising employees from Samsung’s R&D, innovation, products and marketing divisions, was set up to understand the needs of the Indian consumer. Subsequently, the team drew up a list of India-specific features that resulted in the launch of the Galaxy J series.

http://m.economictimes.com/te[....]-oppo/articleshow/58437793.cms

Some very good reads.
[ This Message was edited by: Tsepz_GP on 2017-10-10 09:32 ]


Posted by hboy857
^
Sorry dude, I'm not going to read your essay. You have wasted your time writing this. Since you have no interest other than Samsung phones as you said in note 8, I see no point reading your comment anymore and will never read any comment from you. It'll be waste of my time. Peace.
[ This Message was edited by: hboy857 on 2017-10-10 10:27 ]


Posted by Tsepz_GP

On 2017-10-10 11:26:47, hboy857 wrote:
^
Sorry dude, I'm not going to read your essay. You have wasted your time writing this. Since you have no interest other than Samsung phones as you said in note 8, I see no point reading your comment anymore and will never read any comment from you. It'll be waste of my time. Peace.
[ This Message was edited by: hboy857 on 2017-10-10 10:27 ]



Totally understand mate, facts with cold hard evidence backed with numbers are hard to argue.

Next time rather just state at the end that you aren't prepared.


Posted by aussieland1
To be fair tsepz your facts are only about how good Samsung is doing at the moment which no one is disputing. Hboy857 is predicting that Google will take some of that glory in the future. it is hard to say either way, imo Google will have to be aggressive to conquer mobile world and if it so won't that upset the android partners? last year showed that Google is happy to not disrupt things too much (by making Pixel unavailable for months and months).

Me personally I love pure android and so would love Google Pixel to flourish but I don't think Pixel xl 2 will be a best seller. If anything isn't Android market touted to be a market for cheap phones and Pixel xl 2 is now the most expensive android phones as expensive as an iPhone. The challenge for Google will be to convince people to spend that much on a phone

Posted by Tsepz_GP

On 2017-10-10 21:51:45, aussieland1 wrote:
To be fair tsepz your facts are only about how good Samsung is doing at the moment which no one is disputing. Hboy857 is predicting that Google will take some of that glory in the future. it is hard to say either way, imo Google will have to be aggressive to conquer mobile world and if it so won't that upset the android partners? last year showed that Google is happy to not disrupt things too much (by making Pixel unavailable for months and months).

Me personally I love pure android and so would love Google Pixel to flourish but I don't think Pixel xl 2 will be a best seller. If anything isn't Android market touted to be a market for cheap phones and Pixel xl 2 is now the most expensive android phones as expensive as an iPhone. The challenge for Google will be to convince people to spend that much on a phone


Google aren't really about the hardware game, bulk of the profits are made through people like me who run Digital Ad Campaigns on Google's AdWords and DoubleClick and convince clients to spend more on advertising on Google platforms. In this Google and Samsung comparison one pays my bills (Google), the other creates them (Samsung)

I completely agree, I don't think Google are out to ruin their partnership with OHA, in fact Google do a similar thing in Advertising, they run their own campaigns with their own clients, but you don't see them going out to poach WPP, or Publicis or Dentsu Aegis network clients,do you? They know how far they can take it.

When Google want to get out there and dominate they have a partner in South Korea, Samsung, who they will call upon to build them a product to be sold in every market, but hardware is simply not Google's game, and that's why they like latching on to companies like HTC and Huawei to build their devices and give an enthusiast device that sells in low numbers, they even joked about this in their keynote.



Posted by aussieland1
Exactly I think Google is making money from services so they need people to keep buying android phones regardless of the manufacturer.

But even if Google is aiming for high end market only at the current prices asked for Pixel 2ND generation they will need a big effort to convince people to buy them. Here is in UK not many people know of Google phones (I see very few with the first generation of Pixel). Maybe in US they can become more popular because they are an American company but they will need to differentiate from Samsung and LG more imo, (they use the same ecosystem so they will need to give people a reason to buy them over other android manufacturer)
[ This Message was edited by: aussieland1 on 2017-10-10 21:24 ]


Posted by >500
Handled both of the new devices today* XL2 is the nicer of the 2 design wise, both are comfortable in hand, despite XL2 being a little wider than Note 8, for example. Colours on the screens of both devices looked..... 'odd'. Also camera exhibiting some odd tint when compared to my Note 8.

*note, these were pre-production units.
[ This Message was edited by: >500 on 2017-10-11 07:16 ]


Posted by aussieland1
>500 you are very lucky ! I don't expect to see the pixel xl2 in real life until November

One thing that I think was not mentioned in this thread is 3 years of software support which I think it is the best for Android so far. My pixel XL is on Android Oreo with October security patch but S8 plus is in 7.0 and Note 8 on 7.1.1 both with August security patch. Samsung is really lagging behind here , shame not more people care about this

Posted by hboy857
Anyone here has a chance to read this?
https://theoutline.com/post/2388/google-is-really-good-at-design

Good read. Even hardcore Apple fanboys agree how great google has become at design and now creating a synergy between hardware and software to make beautiful products. Hopefully Google really sort out their supply chain deficiency and end exclusive relation with Verizon before 2019 pixel launch.
[ This Message was edited by: hboy857 on 2017-10-14 08:10 ]


Posted by Tsepz_GP

On 2017-10-11 08:43:20, aussieland1 wrote:
>500 you are very lucky ! I don't expect to see the pixel xl2 in real life until November

One thing that I think was not mentioned in this thread is 3 years of software support which I think it is the best for Android so far. My pixel XL is on Android Oreo with October security patch but S8 plus is in 7.0 and Note 8 on 7.1.1 both with August security patch. Samsung is really lagging behind here , shame not more people care about this


That was a great move by Google, upping the amount of time devices are updated, should push other OEMs.

Interesting situation with the updates, both Samsung and LG launching devices on 7.1 instead of 8.0, while Sony's latest are on 8.0.

I wonder if Samsung and LG are being cautious, as remember last year LG V20 was the first Android running 7.0, they made a huge deal about it, this time around LG didn't bother, they just launched it with 7.1 and worked on making a device that is stable.

How is 8.0 on your Pixel? What are the major features over what we have in 7.1?

Posted by aussieland1
In UK it looks like it will still be exclusive on one network (EE). Hope it will still be more easily available compared to last year Pixel

Tespz

My XL is running great on Oreo. Really it is on now way slower than Note 8 (maybe even slightly snappier ). Really it's a great phone just wish it had a larger screen.(like Pixel XL 2 but with headphone jack 😉

Oreo new features are mostly under the hood . My favourite are the much faster boot up , the new background limit which helps the battery , the adaptive icons (Samsung launcher could really use this ), the ambient screen . Anyway a lot is under the hood and makes the phone run much better . It is more stable than 7.0 was last year

For more about Oreo see here

https://www.android.com/versions/oreo-8-0/

Also at least Note 8 is on 7.1 but how about S8 .. a Samsung flagship and still on 7.0 Samsung makes beautiful phones by their update system is not great
[ This Message was edited by: aussieland1 on 2017-10-14 19:30 ]


Posted by Tibagy
How Google Built The Pixel 2 / Pixel 2 XL Camera

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIbeiddq_CQ

Posted by Tibagy
DxOMark Smartphone Ratings: Explained!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgeJ0XYuI2E

Posted by hboy857
Yikes, V30 oled screen is really bad according to theverge's review. Now I'm afraid for pixel 2 xl's screen as it'll use the same screen. This is maybe the real deal breaker for pixel 2 xl for many people.
[ This Message was edited by: hboy857 on 2017-10-16 16:45 ]


Posted by McKinley

On 2017-10-16 17:44:10, hboy857 wrote:
Yikes, V30 oled screen is really bad according to theverge's review. Now I'm afraid for pixel 2 xl's screen as it'll use the same screen. This is maybe the real deal breaker for pixel 2 xl for many people.
[ This Message was edited by: hboy857 on 2017-10-16 16:45 ]



My thought too about the display.
It is pretty bad and reminds of the OLED found in Nokia models before.
Too blue and cold for my taste.

Posted by aussieland1
Let's hope Google will cali rate this display better than LG

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Ouch with regards to the display.

It's a difficult technology, OLED.

Posted by hboy857
OK, good news boys, The display is much better than V30 but not up to samsung's greatest (duh).
https://www.theverge.com/2017[....]xl-review-android-phone-camera
[ This Message was edited by: hboy857 on 2017-10-17 13:05 ]


Posted by hboy857
This is the real deal. This is incredible news to me.
Google has made custom image processor for pixel 2 phones. It's deactivated but it will be activated in the coming months.
https://www.theverge.com/2017[....]core-ipu-custom-processor-chip

Google is really taking mobile photography in a place no other companies dare to take. Great job google and can't wait to see what they bring to the future.

Posted by hboy857
The best android phone you can buy -Arstechnica
https://arstechnica.com/gadge[....]est-android-phone-you-can-buy/

Posted by Sassho
Two reviews
https://www.phonearena.com/re[....]2-and-Pixel-2-XL-Review_id4431
http://www.androidpolice.com/[....]eview-best-gets-mostly-better/

camera is very good


Posted by aussieland1


Engadget Score

Google

Pixel 2 XL

91

Pros

Excellent performance
Long battery life
Truly impressive camera
It's finally water resistant
Android 8.0 is powerful and accessible
eSIM works well with Project Fi

Cons

No microSD slot or headphone jack
There are better big screens out there
Unlimited full-res photo storage only lasts three years


Really good score and pros and cons on Engadget. It seems like the screen (and for me the lack of 3.5 mm jack) are the only week points for this phone


Posted by hboy857
https://theoutline.com/post/2[....]never-lie-to-you?utm_source=TW

Posted by Tsepz_GP
Any actual Pixel 2 XL owners here?
What's going on with the displays?

Posted by moogoo
I have one in it's box next to me but it's not mine.. my brother's..

UPDATE:

he states there is definitely a noticeable blue tint at off center angles and there is a grainy texture to solid background colors. he may try to RMA and see if he'll get a better one as it seems the amount of tint/grain varies.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2017-10-22 02:42 ]


Posted by Tsepz_GP

On 2017-10-20 23:37:46, moogoo wrote:
I have one in it's box next to me but it's not mine.. my brother's..

UPDATE:

he states there is definitely a noticeable blue tint at off center angles and there is a grainy texture to solid background colors. he may try to RMA and see if he'll get a better one as it seems the amount of tint/grain varies.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2017-10-22 02:42 ]



Ouch! That sucks.

Google should have gone with Samsung for the displays, although I do believe Samsung's stock of OLEDs was bought up by Apple for the iPhone X, so I guess that would have made it difficult to get stock of the Pixel 2 XL.

Hopefully Google can eventually sort this out. The Display is the primary way of interacting with the Device, if that is of poor quality then the whole experience is ruined.

All the best to your brother!

Posted by Tsepz_GP
This is just madness, surely they should have picked this up in QC!???
Does the Google Pixel 2 XL have a screen burn-in problem?

https://m.androidcentral.com/google-pixel-2-xl-screen-burn

Anyone who owns a Pixel 2 XL should use the images in the article to check if they also have burn-in.


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