Posted by Mr.Kája
Hi, I confused from my Elm - 5Mpix camera, but my photos are about 500kB, maybe less...just like in my old (2Mpix) k750i. And then, I read here in "List of CMOS and CCD Sensors..." thread, that Elm and Hazel have ISX006 senzor from Sony, which supports 1080p (30fps) and 720p (60fps).
I quess, all these (video) restrictions are because of small buffer. But there could be some possibilities for modding.
My question is - can anyone from at least a bit experienced modders try to change the compression at photos and maybe try to play with videorecording? I can test it. Original camdriver can be found na 4shared or I can send it (but not the last version).
EDIT: Strange conclusion for me - I tried to change any values and camera didn't work. Suddenly I found, I have no backup. What seems even more strange - uploaded 2 original drivers (by brazzuka) had no effect...via omnius or sefp plugin. Elm returns back to menu before it can reach camera interface. This is something like warning.
[ This Message was edited by: Mr.Kája on 2010-07-21 14:13 ]
Posted by anouk82
can you tell me how can i upload the camdriver with omnius,explain to me...
Posted by NoroBiik
Just tacking on my number one wish for an Elm cam hack if anyone ever tries to make an enhanced driver for it. After seeing how Raider's camdriver enhanced the K800i shots, I'd like to see one that compensates for the Elm's difficulty in taking good lowlight/nightshots.
Posted by groovepeppy
On 2010-08-09 01:58:59, anouk82 wrote:
can you tell me how can i upload the camdriver with omnius,explain to me...
@anouk82
Read this, who knows You'll be the first to mod Elm's/Hazel's camdriver
Posted by Mr.Kája
On 2010-08-09 01:58:59, anouk82 wrote:
can you tell me how can i upload the camdriver with omnius,explain to me...
I would prefer SEFP2 plugin + FAR manager. It's easier. In omnius, I have to make xml file, put in on folder structure tpa/preset/custom, all this put in zip file. After that, I have to choose the camdriver, upload it into phone's folder called other. After that, I have to start omnius, chose the zip file and finally, it's all done. In xml file, I had folder structure of uploading file (saved in phones memory) and final folder structure in FS, where it should be uploaded.
In SEFP2, a turn on FAR manager (two-window file manager...something a bit like total commander), through F11 I choose SEFP2 plugin and I can see FS structure and upload camdriver easily by moving from one window to another.
But SEFP2 has still (at least) one problem at cid80 - you can upload files, but you can't read them.
Posted by anouk82
On 2010-08-09 17:04:32, Mr.Kája wrote:
On 2010-08-09 01:58:59, anouk82 wrote:
can you tell me how can i upload the camdriver with omnius,explain to me...
I would prefer SEFP2 plugin + FAR manager. It's easier. In omnius, I have to make xml file, put in on folder structure tpa/preset/custom, all this put in zip file. After that, I have to choose the camdriver, upload it into phone's folder called other. After that, I have to start omnius, chose the zip file and finally, it's all done. In xml file, I had folder structure of uploading file (saved in phones memory) and final folder structure in FS, where it should be uploaded.
In SEFP2, a turn on FAR manager (two-window file manager...something a bit like total commander), through F11 I choose SEFP2 plugin and I can see FS structure and upload camdriver easily by moving from one window to another.
But SEFP2 has still (at least) one problem at cid80 - you can upload files, but you can't read them.
can you send me SEFP2?
Posted by Mr.Kája
You can find FAR manager + SEFP2 plugin for example HERE. It should be the last version.
Anyway, one person in another forum told be about new moded camera driver for Elm/Hazel. moded camera driver for Elm/Hazel. I'm not going to try it, till I will be sure, I can reflesh FW, when it won't work...
Posted by NoroBiik
On 2010-08-09 21:49:12, Mr.Kája wrote:
Anyway, one person in another forum told be about new moded camera driver for Elm/Hazel. moded camera driver for Elm/Hazel. I'm not going to try it, till I will be sure, I can reflesh FW, when it won't work...
moded camera driver for Elm/Hazel (in english)
Posted by groovepeppy
any good news for another Elm/Hazel modded camdriver?
Posted by kronos12
Yap,l am interested too for this...have any of u notice that in dark photo flash led light is awful it is like yellow and white contrast...point it to the wall in the dark and u will see what l am talking about..now, l believe soon some one should be able to point us how to hack camera or sound drivers on Hazel, but for me personally only camera driver should be worth of hacking and developed.
Posted by groovepeppy
Here is the best acoustic modding avail for Elm/Hazel
(vFinal_rev5) AudioPhile Premium HD Acoustics for All A2 & UIQ3 Phones
Posted by kronos12
any one have original camera driver for hazel? l want to put this moded camera driver but dont have original...if something went wrong l want to back to original
Posted by kronos12
no one has camdriver original????
Posted by shawida
On 2010-10-05 01:01:07, kronos12 wrote:
no one has camdriver original????
sorry can't help you..coz my phone is not debranded..so I can't copy any of it files out..
Posted by kronos12
well can u explain how to extract my self then out original camdriver...my is not branded
Posted by shawida
On 2010-10-05 22:42:04, kronos12 wrote:
well can u explain how to extract my self then out original camdriver...my is not branded
I think FAR Manager plugin with SEFP2 plug-in can do the job (never done it before though).. you can search the links for both in SE-NSE forum
Posted by groovepeppy
On 2010-10-05 01:01:07, kronos12 wrote:
no one has camdriver original????
Elm's original camdriver
Posted by kronos12
is ELM camdriver same as hazel? l have hazel and friend above my post put Elm original camdriver...
Posted by reeflotz
yes its the same
I have Hazel too and already flashed elm's camdrive in it. groovepeppy also helped me
Posted by kronos12
ok this is preliminary test photos--first one is with original camdriver and second one is with moded..
original
moded
Posted by shawida
kronos12: try test it in low light condition with higher EV...see if the yellow-blue line eliminated
you can upload it here too so we all can test it out..
Posted by kronos12
ok this is day and macro mode
original
andd moded
and this are all moded with exposure at maximum
Posted by shawida
somehow the first mod you did seems good. but the next one, I have to admit the original looks better - too much exposure - and the last pic are horrible lots of yellow-blue-green even red line!
Posted by kronos12
yes l have to say that pictures are now over 1mb and they show little or none difference so...only good thing perhaps is that in normal exposure 0+ or -1 pictures taken inside and pictures of faces and people seams good...l will wait until update for my country come to the air and update the phone...for now current version of firmware is xxxxx64.
Posted by shawida
On 2010-10-10 15:25:39, kronos12 wrote:
yes l have to say that pictures are now over 1mb and they show little or none difference so...only good thing perhaps is that in normal exposure 0+ or -1 pictures taken inside and pictures of faces and people seams good...l will wait until update for my country come to the air and update the phone...for now current version of firmware is xxxxx64.
where are u from Kronos ? Here in Malaysia, the update service keep telling me I have the latest version ! (my firmware is still R7CA061) I just hope SE official will take notice the camera issue and solved in the new firmware.
Posted by kronos12
EU east central europe Balkan area
Posted by bloodyvie
ummm so the hazel and elm original cam driver is same?
because mine is hazel and i want to put it back to the original driver
i didn't see any different on the modded cam driver
and my hazel can't hav the newest software update
i wonder if that hav something to do with the modded cam driver
my hazel still R7BA081
i live in indonesia
so what is the newest software?
and where i can update
Posted by shawida
On 2010-10-13 04:55:54, bloodyvie wrote:
ummm so the hazel and elm original cam driver is same?
because mine is hazel and i want to put it back to the original driver
i didn't see any different on the modded cam driver
and my hazel can't hav the newest software update
i wonder if that hav something to do with the modded cam driver
my hazel still R7BA081
i live in indonesia
so what is the newest software?
and where i can update
the modded cam driver is claimed to have lower compression hence higher picture's bytes. I've tried it but resulting my cam resetting to main menu when pressing the camera button.
I don't think modded camdriver interfere with updating newest firmware cause the fw will just simply overwrite everything and you have to port the modded driver again if preferred.
since you living area are neighboring me, i assume the latest firmware is still unavailable in Asean region, most people updated here are from Europe region. guess we'll have to patiently wait...
Posted by bloodyvie
On 2010-10-13 05:29:25, shawida wrote:
the modded cam driver is claimed to have lower compression hence higher picture's bytes. I've tried it but resulting my cam resetting to main menu when pressing the camera button.
I don't think modded camdriver interfere with updating newest firmware cause the fw will just simply overwrite everything and you have to port the modded driver again if preferred.
since you living area are neighboring me, i assume the latest firmware is still unavailable in Asean region, most people updated here are from Europe region. guess we'll have to patiently wait...
awww what took them so long at asia region
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Posted by xclbr
I found this here
We found the decision "a pale Camera
From point camera driver (v3.9):
Code:
eq_set_prop_10 =
$ S5% 0
$ C5 00
$ "CAM0_DEBUG: P16 - Auto setting"
# V-Latch_Scene1_Auto_0
# V-Latch_Scene1_Auto_1
# V-Latch_Scene1_Auto_2
$ Cx
$ C5 02
$ "CAM0_DEBUG: P16 - LandScape setting"
# V-Latch_Scene2_LandScape_0
# V-Latch_Scene2_LandScape_1
# V-Latch_Scene2_LandScape_2
$ Cx
$ C5 01
$ "CAM0_DEBUG: P16 - Portrait setting"
# V-Latch_Scene3_Portrait_0
# V-Latch_Scene3_Portrait_1
# V-Latch_Scene3_Portrait_2
$ Cx
$ C5 05
$ "CAM0_DEBUG: P16 - Beach_Snow setting"
# V-Latch_Scene4_Beach_Snow_0
# V-Latch_Scene4_Beach_Snow_1
# V-Latch_Scene4_Beach_Snow_2
$ Cx
$ C5 06
$ "CAM0_DEBUG: P16 - Sports setting"
# V-Latch_Scene5_Sports_0
# V-Latch_Scene5_Sports_1
# V-Latch_Scene5_Sports_2
$ Cx
$ C5 03
$ "CAM0_DEBUG: P16 - Night setting"
# V-Latch_Scene6_TwilightLandScape_0
# V-Latch_Scene6_TwilightLandScape_1
# V-Latch_Scene6_TwilightLandScape_2
$ Cx
$ C5 07
$ "CAM0_DEBUG: P16 - Document setting"
/ / # V-Latch_Scene7_Document_0
/ / # V-Latch_Scene7_Document_1
/ / # V-Latch_Scene7_Document_2
# V-Latch_Scene1_Auto_0
# V-Latch_Scene1_Auto_1
# V-Latch_Scene1_Auto_2
$ Cx
$ C5 04
$ "CAM0_DEBUG: P16 - Night portrait setting"
# V-Latch_Scene8_TwilightPortrait_0
# V-Latch_Scene8_TwilightPortrait_1
# V-Latch_Scene8_TwilightPortrait_2
$ Cx
$ "CAM0: P16 - Scenes% 5"
# SET_REG_8 (01, 00, $ W5) / / (REG: SCENE_SELECT)
$ Mc 5
$ C5 07 / / For Document, the default EV value is 0.7
# SET_REG_8 (00, 80, 02)
# SET_REG_8 (00, 62, 30)
# SET_REG_8 (00, 61, A0)
$ "CAM0_DEBUG: P16 - Change EV to 0.7"
$ Cl / / For else, the default value is 0 EV
$ "CAM0_DEBUG: P16 - Change EV to 0.0"
# SET_REG_8 (00, 80, 00)
# SET_REG_8 (00, 62, 20)
# SET_REG_8 (00, 61, 80)
$ Cx
;
Delete:
Code:
$ "CAM0: P16 - Scenes% 5"
# SET_REG_8 (01, 00, $ W5) / / (REG: SCENE_SELECT)
$ Mc 5
$ C5 07 / / For Document, the default EV value is 0.7
# SET_REG_8 (00, 80, 02)
# SET_REG_8 (00, 62, 30)
# SET_REG_8 (00, 61, A0)
$ "CAM0_DEBUG: P16 - Change EV to 0.7"
$ Cl / / For else, the default value is 0 EV
$ "CAM0_DEBUG: P16 - Change EV to 0.0"
# SET_REG_8 (00, 80, 00)
# SET_REG_8 (00, 62, 20)
# SET_REG_8 (00, 61, 80)
$ Cx
there is little noise in the red, very juicy pics
Here reduce the compression of pictures (500kb -> 1MB):
Code:
# SET_REG_8 (02, 04, 01) / / Set JPEG Compression Quality (REG: JPG_QLTY)
# SET_REG_8 (5A, 02, 06) / / Set JPEG header (REG: JPG_FMT)
# SET_REG_8 (5A, 04, 00) / / Set JPEG header (REG: JPG_FMT)
# SET_REG_8 (00, 14, 01) / / Set output frames Num (REG: CAPNUM)
# SET_REG_16 (03, 54, 05, DC) / / Set JPEG data limit: 1.5M (REG: PRED_UPPER_SIZE_LIMIT1)
/ / # SET_REG_16 (03, 56, 03, 20) / / Set JPEG data limit (REG: PRED_UPPER_SIZE_LIMIT2)
corrected to:
Code:
# SET_REG_8 (02, 04, 02) / / Set JPEG Compression Quality (REG: JPG_QLTY)
# SET_REG_8 (5A, 02, 06) / / Set JPEG header (REG: JPG_FMT)
# SET_REG_8 (5A, 04, 00) / / Set JPEG header (REG: JPG_FMT)
# SET_REG_8 (00, 14, 01) / / Set output frames Num (REG: CAPNUM)
# SET_REG_16 (03, 54, 0F, A0) / / Set JPEG data limit: 1.5M (REG: PRED_UPPER_SIZE_LIMIT1)
/ / # SET_REG_16 (03, 56, 03, 20) / / Set JPEG data limit (REG: PRED_UPPER_SIZE_LIMIT2)
Posted by groovepeppy
i wish i could understand what you're saying here
please make it simple, i mean do you suggest to overwrite some part from the driver?
I'm such a stupid with those hex code LOL
Posted by xclbr
I don't know it too either. I just posted it hoping that someone here can understand it and turn it into a better modded camdriver.
Posted by pavithra_uk
Elm has very strange camera issue
you can see it above posted night photo and even some nihgt shots in esatos photo galleries.
problem is blue/red/orange line or two appear on low light photos. its very strange while see it @ original size on PC
someone says its firmware bug and some one says it sensor fault.
anyone still fix this ? or SE offcially anounced this problem ?
Posted by alenn
i'll get the SE Elm for Christmas for shore!I'm not hoping to get those problems,BTW awesome phone!
[ This Message was edited by: alenn on 2010-11-08 14:11 ]
Posted by groovepeppy
@xclbr
i already try to mod the 3.9 camdriver according to your post
hopefully it wasn't the content of plummy's driver mod and gave the driver a new fresh breath.
will post the comparison within days...
cross my finger on this....
Posted by groovepeppy
The new value have almost identical change with the plummy's mod driver
Here is the comparison between default v3.9 and the new edited camdriver
3.9 (685kb)
5.1 (1.09mb)
3.9 (599kb)
5.1 (986kb)
Low light
3.9 (313kb)
5.1 (536kb)
Haven't got time to look over at Plummy's content, suspiciously the 5.1 and Plummy's are the same (hopefully NOT LOL)
Posted by groovepeppy
as you can see, lower jpeg compression made the orange-blue lines appear even more
Posted by xclbr
@groovepreppy. you figured it out , you clever you
It looks like only an update from
could solve our red/blue lines in lowlight.
Posted by groovepeppy
ye, i guess it was hardware faulty from SONY's camera sensors
Posted by edidwimaryan
dear all,
Whether this will affect battery performance? last time I modding camdriver to elm, battery run out quickly (less than 1 / 2 day), and mobile phone is in standby mode throughout the day was warm, correct me if wrong
Posted by jms2367
On 2010-11-22 05:21:39, groovepeppy wrote:
ye, i guess it was hardware faulty from SONY's camera sensors
So, if it is hardware fault then the issue with blue lines when pictures are taken in low light cannot be solved by a driver update then?
Posted by xclbr
I think an update can fix it. If the hardware has a limited performance, then they should create a firmware that will match the hardware. Although this could result to a less sharper image, but the blue/red lines can be minimized (if not eliminated) to the lowest degree. It's just my idea though.
[ This Message was edited by: xclbr on 2010-11-30 06:41 ]
Posted by groovepeppy
well, lets just hope it can be fixed from the driver cause poor us if it was hardware faulty.
@edi
changing the camdriver won't drain your phone batt except you turn on the camera very frequently.
Cmiiw.
Posted by pavithra_uk
On 2010-11-30 07:37:50, xclbr wrote:
I think an update can fix it. If the hardware has a limited performance, then they should create a firmware that will match the hardware. Although this could result to a less sharper image, but the blue/red lines can be minimized (if not eliminated) to the lowest degree. It's just my idea though.
[ This Message was edited by: xclbr on 2010-11-30 06:41 ]
I don't think it is a hardware fault. since these blue lines appear anywhere in picture.
This may be problem with Elm's image processing system (noise reduction??) some image data may corrupt during process and appear as blue lines. then these line blured from JPEG compression.
anyone still tried with completely dark photos ?
Posted by Mr.Kája
pavithra_uk: I agree with groovepeppy and I even wrote it once - seems to be hardware problem. I don't see, why it should not be. It's not JPEG compression problem, because the same lines are not only in video, but even in viewfinder (not so noticeable, but visible in some situations). It's growing on dark places and when you are trying to get lighter picture - like classic noise...
We can hope, we can believe...why not, but I'not waiting for miracle like that....
Posted by pavithra_uk
On 2010-12-01 22:08:54, Mr.Kája wrote:
pavithra_uk: I agree with groovepeppy and I even wrote it once - seems to be hardware problem. I don't see, why it should not be. It's not JPEG compression problem, because the same lines are not only in video, but even in viewfinder (not so noticeable, but visible in some situations). It's growing on dark places and when you are trying to get lighter picture - like classic noise...
We can hope, we can believe...why not, but I'not waiting for miracle like that....
may be. because I saw 2 old K750i shows these line in viewfinder. its hardware fault in camera senser. Im wondering CMOS sensors may degrade with age.
in modern sensors, they get maximum performance from it. very small sensor area. manufacturing quality tolerances
etc.. etc..
finally they produce cheap sensor for the market. then, we can't trust the quality
THE MAIN THING IS TO BE KNOW, IF THIS PROBLEM GET WROSE WITH AGE ?
Posted by jms2367
With only Plummy's camdriver available, I went ahead and tried modding my Elm's camera driver. Haven't tried taking much photos yet but my phone is working well and I am not experiencing the problems being reported by others that it either freezes the phone or the [phone goes back to the main menu after pressing the shutter button.
Posted by jms2367
Seems that the blue and yellow horizontal lines are much more magnified in Plummy's cam driver in low light condition. It is even visible now in the view finder. I'll test this in daylight also for a day or more and see if I will revert back to the 3.9 cam driver.
Posted by pavithra_uk
On 2010-12-04 13:10:11, jms2367 wrote:
Seems that the blue and yellow horizontal lines are much more magnified in Plummy's cam driver in low light condition. It is even visible now in the view finder. I'll test this in daylight also for a day or more and see if I will revert back to the 3.9 cam driver.
that seems blue line issue is not a driver bug..?
Posted by quasar84
that seems blue line issue is not a driver bug..?
It's a sensor bug.