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Posted by jayce
While we're all wondering when/if Sony Ericsson are going to release another flagship UIQ smart phone, I thought it would be interesting to look at the history of the P series so far.

The announcement dates are pretty accurate but the availability dates (UK) may be slightly out as some of these are based on online reviews.
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PhoneAnnouncement dateGap between announcementsGeneral availability dateGap between announcement and availability
P800Mar 2002n/aFeb 200312
P900Oct 200320 Dec 20033
P910Jul 20049Dec 20046
P990Oct 200516Sep 200612
P1May 200719Aug 20074


So can we predict anything from this information?
Probably nothing conclusive. Sure, two phones were announced in October, two phones were announced in the first half of the year and one phone was announced in the middle of the year.

In terms of availability there is more of a pattern, which suggests even if a new phone is announced soon, it probably won't be available until the end of the year.

Which is a shame. I really enjoyed my old P900, eagerly awaited the P990 and was so disappointed by it that I skipped it and nearly bought a P1 but in reality this was just a fixed P990 in a better form factor.

I'd love to see come up with something stunning to compete with the wow factor of the iPhone, but I think time is running out and I'm seriously thinking of alternatives to Sony Ericsson now.

[ This Message was edited by: laffen on 2008-03-09 20:26 ]


Posted by PeterKay
Nice analysis

All i can say the P series is not over and will be announced soon, but how soon is something only can answer.





Posted by chuksy
i strongly believe there is going to be a P- series phone being announced this year.....whether it shall see the light of day this year....is anyone's guess

Posted by PeterKay
I can honestly say they'll be one



Posted by Sebby
Who'll be one?

Posted by paul101

On 2008-03-09 22:10:39, PeterKay wrote:
I can honestly say they'll be one





would you take bribes to tell??

Posted by PeterKay
I've said too much before and got slapped on me botty



Posted by tesssst

On 2008-03-09 22:58:39, PeterKay wrote:
I've said too much before and got slapped on me botty




You mean you said too much *bullshit* before, kid?
What was that...uh in Barcelona, on Cebit? Yeah right
After being at Barcelona and Cebit and seeing no announcement being made whatsoever and seeing the Xperia, I doubt SE will be making any more efforts into the P series - or probably not as we know it - and IF, it will probably not happen anywhere near New Years time (I mean the announcement)

So would you please stop posting your shit here?

thank you

Posted by Sebby
Hmm, perhaps that's true, but I can't help but think you could've phrased it a little better.

Posted by PeterKay
ignore that prick.




Posted by skblakee

On 2008-03-09 21:23:01, jayce wrote:


I skipped it and nearly bought a P1 but in reality this was just a fixed P990 in a better form factor.


[ This Message was edited by: laffen on 2008-03-09 20:26 ]


Many of us are going to continue to skip from now on as they have ceded innovation for being average in this smart phone/entertainment market.
With the coming of Experia I doubt that will come with a P anytime soon. Experia seems to have a lot of what was called for but its not a P.
We will have to have faith in PK's words and see what happens but I am leaning towards seriously doubting in regards to seeing a P anytime before 2009.


Posted by jayce
I don't doubt that PK has a prototype smart phone and it may well be the next UIQ phone.
I also believe his intentions are true as *experience* has shown, if you were around at the time the P1 was all rumour.

However I believe his circumstances have changed and he's probably a lot closer to than during the P1 saga, which means he's probably being monitored over what he can and cannot say.

This just adds to the frustration unfortunately until give the OK to let more information out of the bag. Until then, anything he says will be treated by some as fact and every time a new show/event takes place we all think "this is the month"

It's just very, very, very frustrating waiting and hoping and even keeping the faith

Posted by skblakee
Certainly I don't doubt PK but I still feel as though will want to get the Experia well soaked onto the market before announcing the next P in the series.



Posted by Nipsen
Don't hold your breath.

Set aside the licensing issues, the new Symbian version and the work that would take, the new hardware that would be necessary - and you still have a company that doesn't think very highly of offering a phone with a platform like UIQ. And have signalled very clearly that they see the future in terms of deals with telecoms, exclusive content and online- stores.

So as far as I'm concerned, the p-series is already dead for that reason. Since if there will be any new phones, the only thing that made Symbian and UIQ on SE possibly worthwhile in the first place is gone.

Of course - on the bright side you'll get the "new and improved" WM version that's already dated at the time it will be released, that nevertheless "fixes everything". Just like the previous four versions. Once again, a brilliant strategic stroke of.... stroke. From the strategists at SE (who apparently hate their company and wants to destroy it).

Posted by skblakee
Why would they get rid of their flagship P series that has been so good to them? Well until the p990 debacle.

Posted by tesssst
I am more eager to see the first Android based devices...
forget Symbian

Posted by AD
Maybe the competition will make symbian up their game.... In my view, nothing inspires innovation like a threatened market share.....

[ This Message was edited by: AD on 2008-03-10 18:07 ]

Posted by hgautam

On 2008-03-10 14:42:41, skblakee wrote:
Why would they get rid of their flagship P series that has been so good to them? Well until the p990 debacle.



May be because they just announced something better than the latest best P-Series... X1???

But I certainly pray/wish that P Next is announced soon because if it's announced late, say end of Q3 or even Q4, then it won't be out before 2009...

Posted by skblakee

But I certainly pray/wish that P Next is announced soon because if it's announced late, say end of Q3 or even Q4, then it won't be out before 2009...


Thats why I don't expect the next P any time soon. The next P might most likely become something akin to Nokia flagship series. Where they have more than one stellar phone to choose from.

Posted by PeterKay
The next P will blow your minds folks.....



Posted by Creid
Quote:

On 2008-03-11 00:34:48, PeterKay wrote:
The next P will blow your minds folks.....

but -
will it be out before december ?





[ This Message was edited by: creid on 2008-03-10 23:44 ]

Posted by PeterKay
possibly if pull their fingers out


Posted by Creid
Quote:

On 2008-03-11 00:45:59, PeterKay wrote:
possibly if pull their fingers out





Posted by Creid
any info on your p prototype ?
any cool new features ?
thanks pk
creid

Posted by grizlore
I am due for a new phone, what next for me after the P1i ?

SE X1 ?

When are they likely to release the next P series phone?

Posted by gforce23
P series is gone with the wind, just like the K range.

X is where the action is at.


Posted by Nitro Fan

On 2008-12-05 16:03:33, grizlore wrote:
I am due for a new phone, what next for me after the P1i ?

SE X1 ?

When are they likely to release the next P series phone?



If you want to see what the Pseries would have developed into, take a look at the the Nokia N97! Well done another blinding success!!!

Posted by spine6
But maybe the new P series will have a WM OS or an android because symbian is now part of nokia or should i say owned by nokia.

Posted by ares
Sony Ericsson is part of the Symbian Foundation and will make phones with its OS...

Posted by grizlore
Thanks, I think I shall give SEX1 a go


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