Posted by benitorios
According to this article, SE France at a press conference in Paris today announced that all handsets due to be released this year have already been announced. So, until the end of 2008, nothing more than what's currently sitting in the coming soon section of the SE website.
http://www.mobinaute.com/1284[....]les-attendus-2008-nouveau.html
(sorry, it's in French, but the main lines are quite clear, i guess)
I kinda find this hard to believe, so early in the year, why would a maker already say that they've expended all their ammo for the year? Or is it a trick to make the coming announcements more impactful?
Anyone has info on this ?
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Posted by Mizzle
This is not right 
Want me to get an official statement on this as well?
Posted by PeterKay
100% incorrect.
More to come this year
Posted by hgautam
"Possibly no more new SE handsets this year?"
Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!
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Posted by gola
phew! thanks for the good news guys
Posted by michka
Bad translation. The article only states that no new product has been announced at the Paris press conference. Nowhere does it state that no new product will be announced for this year.
Posted by Seanyb2
Well if it was true perhaps it will give them the rest of the year to get things right. Lol.
Posted by Luci'sPower
it's a bit sad that the k860 wasan't announced yet.....the k810 was annonunced in february last year so i was hoping the same thing for the k860......Mizzle any news on thi subject?
Posted by darknoob
maybe C902 is redesigned K850 ?
Posted by Wuz
SE would have to be in deep deep trouble to not bring out another new phone this year....I wouldn't expect this from any major player (Motorolla included).
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Yeah, come on, we're only 3 months in! And yeah, the K860i in my opinion won't be called that. I'm quite sure we've seen the last of the old nomenclature with the Z770i and W980i. I doubt the K850i's successor is the C902 though, cause it has a smaller screen and a not as good flash. More of a fashion Cyber-Shot.
Posted by BobaFett
whats the reason for k860, if there is the new c series?
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
Well if SE are going to stand up to the likes of Nokia, etc. They need to keep expanding their portfolio and have more than one option in each level. For example, Nokia have the N82 and N95 and N95 8GB (soon to be the N96) all catering for the same kind of user who want the best of everything in one. This gives the user a choice, they can choose a candy-bar or a slider. So SE need to have more than one phone to give their customers more choice, and to draw in more customers. They have the K850i (or its replacement should it be released soon), which is a more dedicated camera phone with proper flash, and the slim and fashionable C902 which caters more for the crowd that want something to show off.
If SE don't keep releasing a good range of phones, they'll fall into a trap like they seemed to in 2007. Already this year we've seen SE expanding and expanding, so the outlook looks good.
Posted by mkd
I think that SE has a good iniciative of creating unique phones which cover several different user needs. However, it is obvious that they need to widen the range of choices, as users are very limited when buying a new phone.
I talk for myself, I am a SE lover since I had my first T610. Sadly enough, my next phone is likely to be a Nokia (N82). The fact is that I tried to wait long (I still have my W800i) for a phone with VGA video recording and Xenon flash to replace both my digital camera and my phone. But the G900, though is a quite astonishing device, has QVGA-video camera with no lens-cover and LED flash.
Therefore, I guess many users are in my situation, loving SE for their beautiful and neat designs with perfect user interface, but then if I need certain techology, I have to go to the dark side, and give up beauty and usability, just because I need a good camera and a full-featured phone all in one.
Hopefully SE starts to widen their range of phones and include Wifi and better cameras (no megapixels, but optics and VGA-video) in the near future. It would be a dream for me to soon replace my next N82 by a better SE.
Posted by razec
K850 successor will be probably named C905 (European version of SO905iCS/W62s) or C910/C912(candybar).
SE has still alot of things to show us for sure, the inbuilt radio antenna, AM radio, Clear Stereo/Bass, Photoflash, Face Detection and etc which are features usual only with SE Japan handsets(although face detection is already seen in Samsung G800). by that thing i think that Mr Dicky seems to be integrating Japan Tech with the new SEs for European market. one clear evidence is the new naming convention akin to SE JP phones. by the next we may probably see A200/Symbian phones with WVGA displays besides X1.
Posted by benitorios
well, here it says :
Une quinzaine de mobiles et smartphones verront ainsi le jour dans le courant de cette année mais tous ont déjà été annoncés ces six derniers mois à l'occasion de communiqués de presse ou de différents salons internationaux
Which translates into:
About 15 handsets and smartphones will see the light of day in the course of the year but all have already been announced during the past 6 months through press conferences or various international shows.
Personally, I quite doubt that as well, sounds like the journalist mis-interpreted the message in the press conference. I was just citing the source, thinking it would trigger some discussion, and it did !!
Posted by Luci'sPower
Well what is the date of the next announcement?
Posted by G-Izzat
@razec,
isn't the face detection feature available on the C902?
Posted by jemuel
quite impossible for SE not to release new handsets. there are still quite many phones thet doesn't have a clone..... lol
Posted by puestadelsol
On 2008-03-06 21:24:46, Luci'sPower wrote:
it's a bit sad that the k860 wasan't announced yet.....the k810 was annonunced in february last year so i was hoping the same thing for the k860......Mizzle any news on thi subject?
But remember, the K810 was a facelift of K800m which was announced in 2006 february, so a year after the K800. Everyone was waiting the flagsip of 2007 to be announced in february but that was only a facelift. I think the flagship for this year will not be announced more sooner than the k850 last year. But after the delayed announcement of K850 it's quite hard to follow SE's polotics in this domain.
Posted by arj2442
It seems quite clear that the C902 is indeed the facelifted K850.i.e, what the k810 was tothe k800.
The 2008 Cybershot model to replace K850 will surely be announced at earliest, after May, when the C902 hits the shops.
Everyone will speculate that it will be announced before this, but at the end of the day, it won't. The turnaround time between flagship models is slowly getting greater and greater, the k700 hit the shelves earlier in the year than the k750 did the following year, and then the k800 was even later, and finally, last year, the k850 did get out till late september/october. The announcement in turn gets pushed back every year.
Im expecting mayb June/July for announcment this year. Sorry guys.
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
On 2008-03-10 19:55:39, arj2442 wrote:
It seems quite clear that the C902 is indeed the facelifted K850.i.e, what the k810 was tothe k800.
Nobody downgrades a facelift, and it seems to me that the C902's 'photo flash' is a downgrade. No matter how much people say it performs like a real flash, I just don't see it outperforming an actual flash in terms of brightness. Plus I don't think they can fit the rest of the K850i's hardware into that slim body.
I can't agree that it is a K850i facelift, because a facelift would have the same features, just different appearance (eg. K800i to K810i was almost solely cosmetic save a few very minor additions). The C902 is to me a different line completely.
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Posted by arj2442
Well with the movement from K Line to C Line there was bount to be changes.
To me, the photo flash doesen't indicate a downgrade at all. Maybe a little bit of performance has been lost, power wise, but the ability to use the the photo flash for all 9 shots of the best pic feature now is surely an upgrade.
I don't beleive they'll be bringing out another minor upgrade model to act as a facelifte k850. I no the form factor has changed to a much slimer model, but equipment wise, the C902 fits the bill as the 'Early in the year, keep people happy with a slightly upgraded phone' untill the next flagship Cybershot comes out.
Hmm. Just my thoughts
Posted by Muhammad-Oli
@arj2442: Yeah I guess you're right. And the light can be used for video too. I just wonder if the performance in terms of camera quality will be even up to K850i standard with such a slim body. I guess we have to wait and see.