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Posted by Abik500i
My cousin is facing a strange problem.

There is this fellow who obviously has a crush on her and when she got her new k700 and a sim, he soon got to know her number. We just thought he might have got it from some common friends.

Later, she changed her sim and her number but again he somehow managed to find her number again. She has changed her sim many times (she's using her 5th mobile number in under 2 years) - somehow that fellow always seems to find out her number.

She says she has given her latest number only to trustworthy friends, but now he knows her newest number also !! That fellow and my cousin have no common friends that we know - so any idea how he consistently manages to track her mobile number?? Does he use technology or might he have some friends in those telecom companies - even if so, how does he do that??

Pls help - sometimes she takes it easy (shebut sometimes she gets real upset when he calls her. No use blocking his number 'cos he someyimes uses even local phone booths to call her.

(sorry if the msg was too long)


Posted by >500
if he is getting some one who works for a network to get her number, that person will soon no longer have a job.... obviously, it is illegal.....

Posted by themarques
Well if you guys know him or have his number its advisable at this rate to report him to the Police and possibly put a restraining order of some sort on him.

If she is on contract likely chance he works or has friends in t-mobile so he is able to get the number. I would advise you to report the first step and then contact the provider and see if anyone has accessed her account without her ringing up as its all logged.

Posted by govigov
oh yeah we faced the same prob some time back. may be her friends are not as trust worthy as she thinks it is. also ask her friends to store her name by a different name, cause some time, friends of friends browse thru mob and then flick the number, happens a lot. and restrict the people who knows her number to a bare minimum, like family and 1 or 2 close friends that all.

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Posted by Abik500i
Guys, thanks for ur replies.

>500, illegal ... but ... he is real deperate.

Marques,we are from India and contract-mobiles are not as popular. We have a normal (non-contract) connection. I was just thinking - is it possible that he might be using her IMEI so that it gives him some way to use it to track her mobile number?? I'm asking this 'cos when her k700 was still new, she had exchanged mobiles with her friend for some days. He might have got hold of her IMEI during that time...

Govigov, will try that idea next time she changes her sim ... very likely :-\\
Btw, how did you solve it when it happened to you??

Posted by ajeetpv
have she took the new sims from the same shop???
(just running my brain's imagination )
he may be the shop owner or a friend of him.

Posted by *Jojo*
@abi - Maybe it's your cousin who is giving the number herself Well anyway, how strange it may be . . . the GUY is good ! Maybe he knows somebody working on a telecom network company

Posted by antichrist
or maybe a "trustworthy" friend is just mocking you

Posted by maggflodd
Where does she buy her phones and sims? Always the same place?

Posted by lewis71980
Else one final warning then flush his head down a toilet.

If I may ask how old is this guy and is he ugly/fat?

Posted by Abik500i
No Maggflodd, she does not buy her sim cards from the same shop...

Ha ha Jojo, I sure hope not.

Now reg the trustworthy friend, I actually half-jokingly said she better stop trusting her trustworthy friends. She has given it to just one friend of hers who she trusts fully - so ...

Lewis, why such a doubt sprang in ur mind - hmm - I've never seen the fellow - but going by her description - she sure doesn't like his looks

We're not looking to complain to the police atleast for now, just looking to solve the riddle of how he does it so that next time we can evad ehim the next time

Posted by himlims_nl
why not turn roll
post his mobile number on a dating site/newspaper
prefered male contact

Posted by Sammy_boy
Does your friend reply to these nuisance texts?

If she does, tell her to stop and ignore them, this guy probably gets off on getting a reply, even if a negative one. Hopefully if they're ignored he'll get bored and stop.

Posted by aatuif
you said india, so it's not a big thing to get someone's number; just spend some bucks and you can get any info, even confidential govt. documents, then what is the worth of a petty number...
you'd try not to reply to him, if that doesn't help you'd inform the cops (this is a serious issue, don't wait till the matter gets out of hand, as we hear then in 'crime reports')...
just changing mobiles and sims, won't help, i can assure you that...

Posted by Abik500i
No she doesn't reply to his texts at all. As for his calls, she used to get fully nervous and has asked him to stop several times. She also has given him a big lecture once when he tried to confront her near a temple !!

Nowadays, she gives absolutely no response if he comes on phone, so that has probably made him bored - i know that 'cos she says his calls have decreased in frequency

But what beats us is how he gets her number - common friends (we don't know of any so far) seems to be the only way??

Posted by altemyr
If he calls again, why not just put the phone aside and don't hang up? Someone has to pay his phone bills

My daughter had a similar problem a couple of years ago, she changed her number, but very soon, the people harassing her got hold of her new number aswell. I suppose it is fairly easy to call someone of her friends, impersonating another "trustwothy" friend, and ask for her new number.

Posted by Dummaari
if the guy is getting the number from a contact working in the telecom company, then its almost impossible hide the number.

some guys working in telecom company can check mobile imei number, no matter how often u change the sim. if u change the operator also imei will be able to indentify the number when ever a call is made to other operator.

another way to get the number is from the call patterns, & if u change the mobile number & mobile handset it will pssible to find the number. the ppl in telecom can look the past call records & with comparing the new calls its easy to find out the number.

telecom ppl can also know the cell sites the calls are made from. so with past records it will be possible to indentify the mobiles using a specific cell site at a given time.

therefore if its an inside job, the only solution is to get a solution from the relavent authourity.

I have got experience in finding numbers like that & its very easy with current technology

Posted by tranced
there must be 2 options:

1- is one of her friends
2- some guy of the network company is joking with her!

Posted by aatuif
now that's what i what i was trying to convey...

Posted by lewis71980
Option 3 if she has her number on a social networking site and he has posed as an imposter friend.

Posted by aatuif
But she changes numbers frequently, and the guy is able to pick them quick... impossible until vexed with some tel co person...

Posted by Abik500i
Dummaari thanks u just confirmed something I have sometimes suspected. So here is an additional thing what I am going to do - I will take her k700, give her my, guess what, k500 . When she next changes her sim, he will not know it in case he is using the advanced technology stuff to track her. Can you just give me the name of the technology that u mentioned or something like that so that I can learn more on it on google...

Can't rule out "untrust-worthy" friends and social networking - possible though she's not an active user of them.

By the way I just came home from office - whew, long journey. And I'm really happy to see these many more responses. Just felt like saying glad I found Esato ... can't thank you individually though I honestly wish I could...

Posted by dr_thug
@ahik500i,jaldi se apne cousin ki shaadi kara de.The End

Posted by upper

On 2007-05-22 08:53:20, Abik500i wrote:
My cousin is facing a strange problem.

There is this fellow who obviously has a crush on her and when she got her new k700 and a sim, he soon got to know her number. We just thought he might have got it from some common friends.

Later, she changed her sim and her number but again he somehow managed to find her number again. She has changed her sim many times (she's using her 5th mobile number in under 2 years) - somehow that fellow always seems to find out her number.

She says she has given her latest number only to trustworthy friends, but now he knows her newest number also !! That fellow and my cousin have no common friends that we know - so any idea how he consistently manages to track her mobile number?? Does he use technology or might he have some friends in those telecom companies - even if so, how does he do that??

Pls help - sometimes she takes it easy (shebut sometimes she gets real upset when he calls her. No use blocking his number 'cos he someyimes uses even local phone booths to call her.

(sorry if the msg was too long)

Maybe those trustworthy friends are not trustworthy.

Posted by dr_thug
Theres option in P990,M600 and W950 to allow incoming calls from contacts(address book) only.K700 is old now...better buy a new mobile...ask her to choose from 1 among the above.

Posted by Dummaari
Mainly those information is easily available from the fraud dectection systems used by telcoms & different companies use different software.

one of them is watchdog from basset of sweden. u can find the basic information from their website

http://www.bassetlabs.com/Tem[....]59-d576-47a1-ac2d-87ff3b33bfee

thanks


Posted by ajeetpv
Quote:

On 2007-05-22 20:06:05, dr_thug wrote:
Theres option in P990,M600 and W950 to allow incoming calls from contacts(address book) only.K700 is old now...better buy a new mobile...ask her to choose from 1 among the above.



i think every SE has this feature.

Posted by Twometre
That jerk isa joke. Report him 2 the police. If u dont know him act against his number.

This message was posted from a C1100

Posted by govigov
@abhi, whats the status man?

and are you changing operatora, or are you stciking to the same operator? try changing it to a diff operator. it might be harder for him to find out. also take the number a week in advance, and then suddenly change it, dont put in the new number as soon as you change it. and next time, get the number under a diff name... may be your or your friends name...

Posted by ajeetpv
it's like the sequel of the hollywood film- 'I know (the sim) what you bought last week'

Posted by Abik500i
(quote>)
On 2007-05-22 19:20:26, dr_thug wrote:
@ahik500i,jaldi se apne cousin ki shaadi kara de.The End
(quote)

He he, that's an option, yes

@Dummaari, thanks for the link. I will check out the info - it will make me better equipped to deal with this joker.

@comfort_mdu, he has many numbers that he uses to stalk her (and others?). You're right - he IS a joker.

@Govi, your post abt changing operators reminds me of one more thing. She shuttles between Hutch and Airtel randomly - sometimes she also has used her uncle's number temporarily - but soon enough and sure enough - there he is like a vulture aaarrrggghh. But yes, what you said is one thing to do - I think we can eliminate one possibility...

@Ajeetpv, lol ... I'll show her all your responses when I meet her next in 10 days.

(btw, overslept and missed my office )

Posted by jdthegr8kd
@Abik500i

can u give me his contact number
it is better for me to find the mobilefone that was stolen

not joking seriously am asking



Posted by Mr Miyagi
I have the answser to this he is using her imei number to obtain her mobile number. He must know someone who is working in a mobile company in order to do this. I know this, becase the mobile company i work for, we have a system we use, that we can enter the imei number and we can find out the number and sim card serial number a person has used in the handset, as well as the nearest mobile phone mast location.

so this is the only way he is doing this.

tell her to change her handset and get a new sim and new mobile number then she will not have any problems at all.

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Posted by RevoWution
You should call the police about it. Give them your cousin's SIM card and a cellphone, and let the police deal with him when he tries calling next.

Better yet, if you want to take matters into your own hands, confront him and give him a good beating...

Stalkers = Cowards, therefore they need a good beat-down to make them man enough to actually confront girls they like...

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Posted by Abik500i
Hey guys, an update after all these months!

It turns out that it was she who was not totally honest with me about the facts Not been honest with that guy too...

Of course she was getting some messages and calls on her mobile but it looks like she was friends with this guy before those messages started happening !! All this while she was telling me she never knew him...

Anyway after the initial shock, I am totally cool now with the incident. Guess with whom I dont want to be close anymore?

Tx ppl, for ur replies earlier on ...
And hey, Merry Christmas and advanced Happy 2008 !

Posted by Leks
Change phone and number at same time!

If he has access to providers database he can see all number used in one specific phone (IMEI) which he could have got because he can check what IMEIs have been used on a number (her previuos).

Posted by Abik500i
Hey Leks,

That's ok cos as I was saying, she and the guy know each other and have some common contacts. This fact was something she never disclosed to me... So, it is not a surprise that he is able to get her number again and again...

The issue is closed now - it is now infact totally different from how it started or atleast how I thought it started.

Posted by mcrosser
That's great Abik! Still I can't believe he was SO desperate. I mean there are many girls in the world (although your sister could be special, yeah).

Posted by dhaval369
He truely loves her!!!

Posted by max_wedge

On 2007-12-26 07:35:34, Abik500i wrote:
Hey Leks,

That's ok cos as I was saying, she and the guy know each other and have some common contacts. This fact was something she never disclosed to me... So, it is not a surprise that he is able to get her number again and again...

The issue is closed now - it is now infact totally different from how it started or atleast how I thought it started.

Now you know who it is it's easy - just break his fingers. He won't call again for a while

Posted by franique
duhh, it happens all the time. but anyways, tell ur sis to be extremely careful (sister or cousin or anybody related~). stalking is kinda famous here in ukraine. been getting those annonymous callers since i first landed here like 3 years ago. like wise, dont fall for it. lolz.


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