Posted by BobaFett
"Jenn over at Pocketables is a woman after my heart; she’s got her eye firmly on the XPERIA X1 release, and isn’t letting the lack of official pricing from Sony Ericsson stop her from looking around for the best deal. It turns out that plenty of online retailers aren’t waiting for Sony Ericsson to reveal the X1’s price either: figures vary from almost $1,500 at the top end down to $699 at the bottom, and remember these are made-up discounts from the made-up full retail prices!
Here are the figures Jenn found:
MobileCityOnline - $999 ($1,199 retail)
CellHUT - $699 ($899 retail)
Wireless Galaxy - $1,428 ($1,500 retail)
Smart Mobile Gadgets - $979.94
A quick Froogle pulls up a few more prices - for instance PhoneCycle, who are placing their bets high up, at $1,428.99 - but until Sony Ericsson unveil their final release date and pricing (which will at least be before the end of the year, we now know) expect all of these stores accepting pre-orders to issue caveats suggesting you might owe them more money."
http://www.phonemag.com/se-xp[....]ces-sheer-guesswork-031710.php
Posted by PeterKay
won't be cheap thats for sure.
Posted by driftmania
Why is the phone so expensive when it's not even that good?
Posted by Dogmann
Hi all
Well as interesting as that is if it are expecting to charge a premium for it being SE and it's not competitive with HTC's or others with similiar products prices they will end up restricting them selves to just to the SE faithfull and that just won't shift enough units. For thier first WM device to stand a chance it will needs to be competively priced or it just won't sell in any real quantity IMO as after all SE have no track record with WM so why would a WM user swap to SE if it's more expensive simply they won't.
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Posted by BobaFett
Good point. Ok, htc devices arent cheap either, but xperia cant and wont match any htc imo wm os users wont go for uiq, not to mention the form factor
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Posted by jakontil
it'll always be overpriced the first time out
Posted by max_wedge
On 2008-03-15 03:58:18, driftmania wrote:
Why is the phone so expensive when it's not even that good?
these prices are speculative - not based on anything SE have released (because they haven't released anything about pricing)
As to it not being any good, why do you say that? It's atleast as good on paper as other high end WM smartphones, which usually retail for anything up to $1400 (Australian). So most of the above pricing isn't unrealistic at all
Posted by >500
On 2008-03-15 04:06:14, Dogmann wrote:
Hi all
Well as interesting as that is if it are expecting to charge a premium for it being SE and it's not competitive with HTC's or others with similiar products prices they will end up restricting them selves to just to the SE faithfull and that just won't shift enough units. For thier first WM device to stand a chance it will needs to be competively priced or it just won't sell in any real quantity IMO as after all SE have no track record with WM so why would a WM user swap to SE if it's more expensive simply they won't.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-03-15 03:06 ]
time will tell hey!
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Posted by PeterKay
On 2008-03-15 03:58:18, driftmania wrote:
Why is the phone so expensive when it's not even that good?
whats not good??
Posted by timebomb
On 2008-03-15 03:58:18, driftmania wrote:
Why is the phone so expensive when it's not even that good?
have u used the phone?
Posted by BobaFett
imo he ment, and i agree on some way, next to the uiq and wm os in the same device, it wont offer nothing really new ( maybe the design yet )
next to it, se fones are really overpriced at launch, then the price fall rapidly in the following 1 month.
Posted by >500
i dont know why people say
phones have high launch prices, which ones, p990, w910? hardly all of them.
just wait 1 week and look at the price drop dramatically.
you can say that about all phones then....... sellers launch high, as they may be the first to sell it, then as more sellers start to stock it, competition grows, there for, lower prices. look at the w890, its already dropped a good $40-$50usd....
(im talking about ebay, online stores etc, not networks, i barely know any one who buys sim free from a network store)
Posted by technical-expert
As far as putting altogether i can see its going to be priced around $900.
600$ less than my core 2 duo notebook.
EDIT
@500 se has more aggressive & over priced product.
For ex N82 with all it features costs 100$ less than w960.
And n95 8gb costs just $ 50 over w960
Nokia 6500 slide and 5610 are priced less than w910 and have more features.
[ This Message was edited by: XPERIA X5 on 2008-03-16 00:33 ]
Posted by >500
yes, a few phones are priced too high.
my point is its not only
who have high launch prices. its just how the market is. example, n95 8gb released over $1000aud online, not long adter, it was about $900aud, now its about $750ish.......
Posted by BobaFett
yeah, but look at nokia sales and other brand sales...
Posted by >500
im not following boba
Posted by BobaFett
nokia can allowe itself to push down the prices, cos they sell so many and next to it, they pop up ( doesnt matter if smart fone or just a simple s40 ) pretty often, so a fone is at nokia almost outdated when its launched
Posted by >500
well maybe thats why
launches at these prices, coz they dont sell as many as nokia. nokia obviously has cheaper production costs compared to
though. maybe you misunderstood me boba. im simply saying, its not only
who over price at launch!
Posted by BobaFett
yeah, i got your point, but if a co. cant offer good sales, then they should maybe drop prices a bit or think over the strategy imo
of coure those prices are just guessing ( in the first post ) but se should offer a really good and reasonable price for xperia
Posted by >500
i wont expect anything under $1000aud...........
most high end WM phones launch at this figure or higher.
take the imate jasjam. that launched for over 1k here, and stayed like that for quite a while, even on ebay.
but the x1 wont be the same as jasjam, give it a few weeks after release and price will drop a bit.....
Posted by technical-expert
well all i can say that there will be only few who have guts to try out xperia at such a massive price after p990 debacle.Nothing can be said abt xperia if the phone is not perfect it could turn into p990 story and price may stumble.And would be biggest loose of customers and Se if they dont get everything right with xperia unlike SE tradition with p990,p1,k850,w910 etc..
Posted by >500
what was wrong with the p1
well its their first WM phone......................... will see how it pans out. i wont be getting the phone, ( i dont think) but i think it will have a few bugs on release any way..........
think the non-price related stuff can be discussed in the x1 thread
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Posted by Wuz
I can't understand why retailers would be offering any prices at all at this time. Surely, it would take a remarkable leap of faith for any consumer to order a phone that isn;t being released for at least 6 months and which still has so much uncertainty surrounding it?
Posted by Dogmann
@500
I would think those prices quoted are US Dollars so whats the exchange rate to the US Dollar? As for prices dropping look at the W960 and N95 8gb the N95 8GB launched first and has held it's price. Retail prices for the W960 has dropped £60-£80 and on the forum what was an over £450 devcie can be got for between £210-£230. Now while this may be good for us the consumer it can't be for SE's revenues or profits.
Marc
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Posted by >500
i know its not good for
, nor is it good for any company. well, for nokia, it might not be so bad, as i said, their production costs are lower!
im just refering to launch prices, all companies launch high. then drop.....
thats just market competition though.......... whether its between sellers, or manufacturers.......