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Lumia 1020 vs 808 PV vs any potential rival. |
false_morel
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On 2013-10-21 23:43:01, Sylwester wrote:
Highest Resolution 808 is the value of working, best to change the size of an original to a 5 or 8 megapixel
Maybe someone to do similar photo in the highest resolution DSLR and add a forum for comparison
Didn't quite get what you meant.
But here's all what we would need for comparing: http://www.dpreview.com/revie[....]6158073691&y=0.489901192424242
I put the 808 against the D800E (full framer), Nikon V1 (mirrorless camera with 1" sensor), and the G15 (Canon's high end compact zoom camera with 1/1.7" sensor)
You would see that the G15 does better than the 808. Let alone the other two..
Pictures taken with my Nokia 808
It's a nice photo. But mounted on a tripod with slow SS nevertheless..
Maybe even used self timer to minimize vibrations I may guess.
And while the image if decent, it has its flaws. Halos and fringing are to be noticed at the edges. And softness at certain spots at and around the center of the image.
However at 34 MP pretty impressive! |
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cu015170
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On 2013-10-21 23:43:01, Sylwester wrote:
Highest Resolution 808 is the value of working, best to change the size of an original to a 5 or 8 megapixel
Maybe someone to do similar photo in the highest resolution DSLR and add a forum for comparison
Pictures taken with my Nokia 808
[ This Message was edited by: Sylwester on 2013-10-21 22:44 ]
You will have a hard time getting an image like this with the 1020.. but you might get close if you try hard enough. |
cu015170
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Some 1020 blur the edges way too much..
this is the right side on the 1020
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7418/10388721974_c80e378a37_o.jpg
This is the right side on the 808
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3765/10388720315_13dbf3139a_o.jpg
There are some 808s out there that exhibit similar behavior, but never as extreme as this.
It affects a pretty big chunk of the image
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aussieland1
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On 2013-10-23 07:46:21, cu015170 wrote:
Some 1020 blur the edges way too much..
this is the right side on the 1020
There are some 808s out there that exhibit similar behavior, but never as extreme as this.
It affects a pretty big chunk of the image
I think that what you are referring to as blur is actually excessive noise and it is obvious on the left side as well. Maybe Nokia 808 has a less noisy image because the photo was taken with the exposure time is 1/100 sec and with Lumia 1020 it is 1/885 sec!
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Sassho
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I crop the best focus part from 1020 image and crop/saturate/contrast same part from 808 image. Compare now and comment 
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aussieland1
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On 2013-10-23 13:27:55, Sassho wrote:
I crop the best focus part from 1020 image and crop/saturate/contrast same part from 808 image. Compare now and comment
You obviously didn't read my post properly. Yes the 808 image is better but the photos were taken with very different exposure times! If you want to compare the quality use the same settings....
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Sassho
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^I don't know. The crops practical are identical , no big differences. In two phones stand the same sensor ...... practical  1020 camera has great potential, but unfortunately too bad optics. |
aussieland1
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On 2013-10-23 13:59:13, Sassho wrote:
^I don't know. The crops practical are identical , no big differences. In two phones stand the same sensor ...... practical 1020 camera has great potential, but unfortunately too bad optics.
actually you are wrong it is not the same sensor. Also i was talking about the settings used to take the photos- difference in exposure time is actually big. Maybe Nokia 808 takes better photos than Lumia 1020 but the 2 photos are not relevant- modify the exposure time for Pureview 808 from 1/100 to 1/885 and the result won't be as clean
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Sassho
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I think two sensors are Toshiba manifacture. 808 sensor little biggest , but this not important. The main differences in two phones are lens quality and image postprocessing. Wait for more compares , maybe will has 1020 with better "Zeiss" lens. I don't know how these Zeiss lenses  |
false_morel
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On 2013-10-23 13:27:55, Sassho wrote:
I crop the best focus part from 1020 image and crop/saturate/contrast same part from 808 image. Compare now and comment
So which photos is better? The left or right one? |
Sassho
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So which photos is better? The left or right one?
No no , I ask this  This's not photos, only crops. As all shot by 1020 is terribe thing. Shame Nokia and Zeiss.
For me two crops are with similar detail , but real sensor quality can look on Portrait or poor light. |
false_morel
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On 2013-10-23 16:06:42, Sassho wrote:
So which photos is better? The left or right one?
No no , I ask this This's not photos, only crops. As all shot by 1020 is terribe thing. Shame Nokia and Zeiss.
For me two crops are with similar detail , but real sensor quality can look on Portrait or poor light.
I know these are crops. Already downloaded the full res and inspected them.
Anyway, I see the left one as clearly better. Sharper and better contrast.
As to edge quality, it is clearly a bad lens on this 1020. As plenty of photos from 1020s not having such extreme edge and corner softness.
If taking these two images overall I would take the 808's one because the edge detail. But talking about the center of the image, the 1020 takes this one. |
false_morel
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Here 1:1 crops. 1020 to the left, 808 to the right. All the crops taken from the center of the photo. Both photos at 34MP, 808 shot at super fine (actually 808's file a bit bigger than 1020's)
And note that the 808 had 3 stops SS advantage! And this is more in the low light photography than shooting a landscape at day. And still 1020 pulled ahead with less exposure value and no use of OIS at this SS.
Anyone who thinks that the 1020 is not significantly better than the 808 for all sorts of sea, city, and landscapes must be out of his damn mind.
The edge nasty thing with the 1020 over here is a lens defect. There are 808s with this flaw as well. Also N8s.
Although Carl Zeiss are professional and about quality optics, but pulling perfect results by mass production for such a lens handling such resolution is not an easy job.
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Nout wrong with Sony,yes there is a few blurry spots but the new update I am waiting for improves the camera.
Phone?? What phone?? |
Sassho
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Congrat Bono for new cameraphone. Nice color reproduction , no noise. Good camera as general.
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