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Best C905 camera settings for live music gigs? |
pootle
Joined: Jan 25, 2005
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From: Bristol, England
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I find it very hard to get a sharp image when I take photos during gigs. My friends with iPhones and N82s are all snapping away and getting great pics. I've tried with different exposures, images sizes, camera settings but nothing works.
I'm using the standard camera driver.
Any advice?
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jake20
Joined: Jan 23, 2009
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i would try one of the modified camera drivers here, and you will have more control over ISO levels, shutter speed.. etc
getting a good shot depends on what lighting is available, and adjusting iso, and shutter speed, and flash accordingly
but i also have a hard time believing an iphone is snapping better pics than a SE phone..
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pootle
Joined: Jan 25, 2005
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From: Bristol, England
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Which is good for night-time images - which makes it easiest to adjust ISO?
Many thanks |
jake20
Joined: Jan 23, 2009
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Cybershot Xperience 6.5 by Witchking is the best and most comprehensive driver out there right now.
But for ease of use, and less features, DM 3.8 is also good. (you can set ISO level)
Check out these threads, you need to do a little research yourself here as well 
C905 modded Cam drivers
CBE 6.5
can you post a few of your pictures that have not come out so good?
there are some great photographers here that may be able to help if they can see a picture.
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pootle
Joined: Jan 25, 2005
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From: Bristol, England
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can you post a few of your pictures that have not come out so good?
Here's 4 below. The first was with the camera set to VGA. Looking at the EXIF data, some are 1/10 sec @ ISO400, some 1/8 sec at ISO250. I was about 3-4 metres away so there is a small amount of zoom.
I would like to be able to tweak the exposure/ISO settings.
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mriley
Joined: Oct 03, 2009
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From: UK
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@pootle
Changing the resolution of the photo won't increase the quality 
Installing one of the camera drivers will give you much more control over exposure
Digital zoom is mostly useless and should be done in an editing program
Its very difficult to get a respectable photograph with a mobile phone camera in low light especially if the subject is moving about
2 main problems with low light photos are blurry pictures and noisy pictures
High ISO creates noise
Long shutter speeds create motion blur
Basically it will be v difficult to get a photo of a moving object in low night without blur or noise, experiment with ISO sensitivity and shutter speed to find the right balance.
The last photo is good btw.
For good low light photos you need a camera with a large/very sensitive sensor with a large aperture and high ISO values, this is perhaps why they don't allow photographers with DSLRs into major events (as they will be able to snap a good photo then sell it to a newspaper) but do allow compact cameras and camera-phones in.
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pootle
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From: Bristol, England
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Its very difficult to get a respectable photograph with a mobile phone camera in low light especially if the subject is moving about
What bugs me is that I have friends with iPhones and N82s who take much better photos in the same situations. They take snap after snap of clear pics, while I take blurry ones! What do those phones do that the C905 cannot? Higher ISO? Shorter exposure?
The camera is fantastic in daylight, but really struggles in low light. I'm trying to understand why. I suspect one of the modded camera drivers will give me greater control.
Thanks for all the help! |
exaflare23
Joined: May 21, 2009
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From: Carmona, Philippines
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N82 can but an iphone? I dont think so, maybe the pictures just looks good in phones with large Lcd.
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mriley
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The iPhone camera and the Nokia N82 are choosing high ISO
I think the n82 chooses something ridiculous like ISO 500/600 in low light
But they wont be getting good results, you will see it as good on the phone's screen because the photo isnt blurred like yours, but instead will be very grainy
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jake20
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i am really curious to see these Iphone and N82 pics you say are so good. Any chance you could get them and post?
What I would do is download CBE 6.5, and play with the shutter speed/ISO configuration.
You will need to increase the shutter speed slightly to reduce the blur, but raise the ISO to compensate for the lack of light.
You just have to find the right balance so you don't introduce too much noise.
But like mriley said, shots like this are not easy to take with any point and shoot camera's either.
Also, you could try the "Twilight Portrait" scene with your current driver, and see what kind of results you get as well. |
exaflare23
Joined: May 21, 2009
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From: Carmona, Philippines
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Power is nothing without control,
Lets say you own 1 of the best cam like c905 well it doesnt mean that you can just shoot and shoot and then expect a good photos, of course you must know how to use it how to control it to unleash it's power.
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pootle
Joined: Jan 25, 2005
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From: Bristol, England
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On 2010-06-10 13:17:00, exaflare23 wrote:
Lets say you own 1 of the best cam like c905 well it doesnt mean that you can just shoot and shoot and then expect a good photos, of course you must know how to use it how to control it to unleash it's power.
That told me absolutely nothing, exaflare. I am asking for advice here. I have already experimented with the controls with the standard camera driver.
jake20, I will ask for some samples. I have mostly noticed this while stood next to people and noticing the obvious difference in clarity on the phone.
I have loaded CBE 6.5 and will try with that, although I am confused how some of the manual settings interact with each other. I will read through that thread.
Many thanks for the help.
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jake20
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oh.. yea you can't go by what a picture looks like on someone's phone compared to what it will look like on a big monitor.
i can bet you those Iphone pictures do not look so great when on a pc monitor.
N82 shots may look good, as this is a pretty good cam phone, but I am still curious to compare with the shots you took.
I am actually going to a concert tonight, and will try to post some shots taken with my C905 as well |
exaflare23
Joined: May 21, 2009
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From: Carmona, Philippines
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im not just refering to the controls/settings  its a deeper meaning.
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