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K850 sensor same as K810,K800? |
milan91
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Is this chip IMX011 k750/w810 chip???
Why SE put smaller chip in k800/k810 ??
And 2 link for pdf, one for IMX018 and one IMX020 specs...
http://www.so-net.de/Products[....]_news/vol46/pdf/imx018_019.pdf
http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/cx_news/vol48/pdf/imx020.pdf
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number1
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the n82's colours are corrected during the post-processing,
@milan91, theres no way se used a bigger sensor in the k750i,w800. |
milan91
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AFAIK k750/w810 use IMX011 chip... But this is IMX011CQ :S
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plankgatan
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@Duran...think IXM020 produce "natural" enough....
or what do you self think ?????
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6433/dsc02067fa9.jpg
im so glad that i didnt kept my N82.... 
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AbuBasim
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On 2008-03-08 17:17:08, milan91 wrote:
Is this chip IMX011 k750/w810 chip???
Why SE put smaller chip in k800/k810 ??
Look closely at your image comparison picture. It is showing the total chip size with imaging area inside. IMX011 is smaller! It's a 1/3" sensor, while the IMX018 is 1/2.8".
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number1
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k800i/k810i uses a bigger sensor to coupe with the extra 1.2megapixels the k850i has the same sized sensor with 5megapixels it's overloaded. |
milan91
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Yea, i know that is total chip size, but that imaging area inside in IMX018 and 011, for me is like 011 have bigger imaging area 
Now i open in gimp and select are 011 and put on 018, and yes 018 is little bigger.
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darknoob
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On 2008-03-08 17:47:51, number1 wrote:
k800i/k810i uses a bigger sensor to coupe with the extra 1.2megapixels the k850i has the same sized sensor with 5megapixels it's overloaded.
If that's right, shame on SE=/ |
number1
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it is correct the k850i's sensor is no bigger than the k800i's one, and for 5megapixels it should be bigger, but bigger sensors will make the phone bigger and use more battery and probley cost more to buy. |
plankgatan
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hhhmmmmm......
"the size" is not the major fact who good quality the pictures get. (ive seen Leica cams with quite "small" sensors who produce freaking awesome pictures)
K850 have a newer/better sensor then K800, it produce better details, it capture less light eaiser and so on.
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sadeghi85
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On 2008-03-08 18:06:02, number1 wrote:
it is correct the k850i's sensor is no bigger than the k800i's one, and for 5megapixels it should be bigger, but bigger sensors will make the phone bigger and use more battery and probley cost more to buy.
That's why i say 3.2mp is enough for a camphone.
Ok K850 sensor is newer, but think it had 3.2mp, then it would be the best camphone.
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number1
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your wrong the sensor size does make a huge difference with more megapixels sure 1.3megapixels & 2megapixel phones & cams only need tiny sensors, To increase the pixel count, the sensor has to be divided into smaller and smaller pixels. The result is a decrease in sensitivity of the camera and an increase in noise because the amount of light collected by a single pixel is smaller but in order to achieve that better lenses with high resolution and a lower lateral chromatic abberation are needed. However better lenses are bigger and don’t fulfill the requirements for ’small cheap mobile phones. even thought the k850 has 5megapixels you only realy get the detail of 3megapixels
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plankgatan
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@ sadeghi85.....hhhmmmmm (again)
i didnt mean the size of numbers of megapixels, i mean the actually size of the sensor
numbers of megapixels is (often) a good thing...you more pixels you easier to get "sharp" pics when you print them out (and some other stuff as well)
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sadeghi85
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@plankgatan
I mean number of pixels per sq inch 
You say having more mp is good cos by resizing pic we'll get sharper pic? |
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Increasing Mega Pixels is not the solution, in actual photography you'll see smaller sensors with more pixels have loss in image quality, THe K800 sensor should actually perform better than the K850 sensor where noise is concerend, more pixels on the same surface area increases interference of pixels.
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