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Posted: 2007-08-14 12:51
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I think panasonic will pay for these replacements.
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Posted: 2007-08-14 13:21
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I would imagine only a tiny fraction of the 46 million, will actually end up being replaced. Most consumers will noit even be aware of the issue and of those that are, I think a large proportion will do nothing about it in terms of actively checking if they are effected or not.
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Posted: 2007-08-14 17:06
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Yeah and actually is Matushita the ones with the loss. Nokia only made this announcement after discovering/finding out that is not their fault ! Now they (nokia) say: Hey look how good and nice we are - if you are affected we (actually WE) will replace it for you because we are such nice people. Under cover Matushita pays to keep Nokia as a battery customer. Marketing ploy by Nokia - I like them but this move makes me wonder. No hot feelings, no pity, take no prisoners Shame on you Nokia.
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Posted: 2007-08-14 17:59
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Well I don't think consumers actually know that the batteries were supplied by Matsushita but at least Nokia owned up and took the responsibility. Most people don't know who Matsushita are.

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Posted: 2007-08-15 05:14
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Is interesting to see Matsushita not recalling the very same battery which does not have the Nokia logo! I have a Holux M-1000 with a battery which falls in this category, ('made by Matsushita' and 'dec. 2006' - written on it) You think Nokia will replace it ?
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Posted: 2007-08-15 06:00
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@Jojo,

have you heard the news about a woman in philippines having her nokia N91 battery(using BL-5C Li-ion one) exploded and burning her sim card and a small portion of the back of the phone? it was being reported on the news on abs-com afaik.

46 Million is way too large, although it was nokia who will replace it, so financially not that trememdous for them imo.
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Posted: 2007-08-15 07:11
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To all those who curse and spit fire: Just take it easy. Nokia is making the right move to the right direction. 46m, wel i guess that wil be one of their major projects added to their endles list.

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Posted: 2007-08-15 13:10
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46 million is a hell of a lot of batteries. If the cost of each battery replacement (including postage, disposal etc.) is $10, then that's easily $460 million. Not cheap for any company.

But I admire the fact that Nokia would volunterally replace that many batteries and admit the fault. I have a battery that's been affected (family member) and the proccess is very easy. Fill out the form with minimal details, and Nokia will send the battery to you and provide a way to dispose of your old battery for free.
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Posted: 2007-08-15 13:16
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its unlikely that all those 46 million batteries will actually be replaced though. I'd be surprised if a quarter actually are
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Posted: 2007-08-15 13:31
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I'd agree, but I was just pointing out that this recall is a big thing. Just because Nokia is a large company, it doesn't mean that it won't suffer from this financially.
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Posted: 2007-08-15 13:59
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On 2007-08-15 13:31:21, shaliron wrote:
@masseur
I'd agree, but I was just pointing out that this recall is a big thing. Just because Nokia is a large company, it doesn't mean that it won't suffer from this financially.



Plus if it prepared to admit 46,000,000 batteries are affected then it must have considered the likelyhood of replacing each and every one or the vast majority of them.
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Posted: 2007-08-15 14:29
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they may have to make provision for that eventuality in its accounts to its shareholders in order to accurately provide financial forecasts, but they would certainly know that the number that actually get replaced would not be anywhere near that figure.

For a start I bet a large number of consumers are totally unaware of the recall. I haven't seen any TV ads and only saw it mentioned briefly in a couple of newspapers. Next week thos whole thing will probably be forgotten by many who have read it and not acted immediately, some just won't be bothered.

I saw a statistic once on the SE replacment of the CST-13 wall charger a couple of years back and that was a very low return (can't find that right now)

ayway, even if they replace 10% then at the $10 figure (which is probably high) thats still a $45million knock for them and the shareholders
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Posted: 2007-08-15 17:34
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Huh people , just read my last post in this tread. Initially Nokia will stand in for the 'loss' but (yes there is a big BUT) what Nokia does not really want the public/consumers to hear is that 'Nokia was aware of the problem for quite some time yet they only decided to go public after the battery manufactuer agreed to the fault and to all the financial losses Nokia may incure !' . The big share holders have been timely informed of the move and has been decided to 'go public'. There won't be any court battle - the matter has been settled before hand. If nokia should have handled this in any other way a sudden drop in share price would have been noticed. I for one lost some respect for Nokia because they seemed to have managed to butter the bread on both sites at Matsushita's expence
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Posted: 2007-08-15 22:33
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could it be the reason for the sudden batt bar drop too?

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Posted: 2007-08-16 06:14
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On 2007-08-15 06:00:07, razec wrote:
@Jojo,

have you heard the news about a woman in philippines having her nokia N91 battery(using BL-5C Li-ion one) exploded and burning her sim card and a small portion of the back of the phone? it was being reported on the news on abs-com afaik.

46 Million is way too large, although it was nokia who will replace it, so financially not that trememdous for them imo.



@razec - Yeah, I've actually seen that news report . . . the girl is in her 40's-50's, I guess and looks kinda rich - $$$$$ will SUE Nokia if ever . . .

I wonder what Nokia fone models this battery (in issue) covers Say like, the Nokia 6600? [addsig]
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