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Author How satisfied are you with your SE P990i?
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Posted: 2007-05-31 15:37
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On 2007-05-29 08:35:04, 701 wrote:
Is there any newer sw version other than R9F011 ?



not yet...stay tuned, untill the end of June, a new version should come out
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Posted: 2007-05-31 17:27
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After the last firmware update and Swiss Manager install, the phone is finally stable and I am reasonably satisfied. I have owned every single P-series model and I am a pretty hard core business user.

The P990i has a number of really significant improvements over the P910i. For me the most important of these are (a) much better camera (still not as good as some Nokia units though); (b) 3G, which is a FANTASTIC improvement for data; (c) much better flip-closed navigation.

What I don't like:

1. Very thick
2. Not enough memory -- still occasional speed problems when multitasking
3. No EDGE data -- I need it in my main area where there is no 3G yet

I like it all right now but I am thinking about trying a Nokia E90 when these come out.
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Posted: 2007-05-31 20:11
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On 2007-05-29 04:48:06, corrado85 wrote:
Grade: F


Every time someone takes time to ask something about my phone, i tell them not to get and support sony ericsson because it is a waste of time and its a horrible phone.i try to sway them to stay away from their products. I usually recommend them n95 or n73, e65 and next couple days after i see it in their hands.


i wouldn't be that hard. SE is not that bad, but the UIQ devices "were" good. i sold my p990i as it is just...next stop N95 or a windows mobile one.
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Posted: 2007-06-01 07:27
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...next stop N95 or a windows mobile one.

If you pick a Windows Mobile phone then you'll notice that something is different on the software support side. Microsoft releases AKU levels which contain bug fixes and new features. Unfortunately it's a rare event for a WM phone vendor to decide to pass one of these updates on to it's customers. Your particular phone may receive one, maximum two updates if you're lucky!
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Posted: 2007-06-02 00:54
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Last week a friend of mine was looking to get a smartphone for her son's graduation. Initially she was thinking Nokia N73, N80 or N93, she didn't really know the differences. Naturally she knew about the P990 so we compared features, still undecided I told her to handle the phones and decide on how the phones feel and their production quality. Well, the winner was P990
P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD
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Posted: 2007-06-02 10:59
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On 2007-05-31 17:27:38, Dockhead wrote:
The P990i ......What I don't like:...1. Very thick

.......I am thinking about trying a Nokia E90 when these come out.


I dont think E90 is a small device either.
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Posted: 2007-06-02 19:27
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I got the P990i last week

it was a battle between W950i and P990i

i looked at both in my hands and the P990i came out winner by miles lol


did not consider Nokia, I hate nokia [addsig]
Eric's Son
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Posted: 2007-06-03 03:04
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The P990 is a turd. The P1 will be the winner.
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Posted: 2007-06-03 10:45
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On 2007-06-03 03:04:17, Eric's Son wrote:
The P990 is a turd. The P1 will be the winner.


Exactly the opposite to what I feel. What the were SE thinking by launching one more phone with that keyboard?
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Posted: 2007-06-04 20:51
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I love that keyboard. I'll jump in P1's band wagon soon
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Posted: 2007-06-17 19:24
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Seems that the general conclusion is that the p990 has improved quite dramatically.Can anyone add further to this thread especially now that r6 firmware is here.Also, anyone aware of a place to find a sim free unit as cheap as possible.The cheapest i found was 268 uk pound.I'm definately leaning towards getting one but just wanna evaluate more first.Cheers.
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Posted: 2007-06-17 20:13
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Right know im just waiting for the P1 to come, and hope it will solve all the UIQ3 problems with the more ram
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Posted: 2007-06-20 13:36
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Please post at SE dev forum to let SE know your opinion on their supposed decision to stop developing further firmware for P990.
http://developer.sonyericsson.com/thread.jspa?threadID=39963

On a different note, the P1 will not be any different than the P990 except that it will take longer for the memory leak to show itself. I strongly suggest that you skip on the P1 and wait for a Symbian 9.5 device unless you want to experience the sad P990 feelings all over again.
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Info/Memory Leak
From UIQ3 open-source software

Garbarge Collector

Symbian OS uses a Garbage Collector as memory manager - in theory this should ease programming.

However Until Symbian 9.5 Symbian only uses an inferior non moving collector. (To be fair: moving collectors don't go well with programming languages which support pointer arithmetic)

With a non moving collector memory becomes fragmented into ever smaller parts until larger memory requests cannot be satisfied any more. To make matter worse: Fragmentation happens a lot quicker of only little free space is available - Which is the case for early UIQ3 phones.

This leads to the dreaded "Restart to improve performance" as restarting is the ultimate way to reclaim and compact all memory. Just ending all programs won't help since there are quite a few programs on the phone which will never end.

As mentioned Symbian 9.5 rectifies this shortcomings and now uses a moving collector which will be able to re-arrange memory so that free memory will be available as one great continues lump.

XIP or the lack of it

Prior to SymbianOS 9.0, many Symbian devices used XIP (eXecute In Place) NOR based memory, which mean nothing had to be loaded into RAM to execute, but this came at the cost of very slow write times. Starting with 9.0, most devices moved to a NAND based memory system, which does not support XIP, and so EVERYTHING has to be loaded into RAM (and kept there) in order to execute. That's why it takes over 40MB of RAM to run the system, as everything is kept at all times.
P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD
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Posted: 2007-06-21 22:10
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If I could pay someone to swap me their N95 I would.

The p990i is a turkey, after owning a p800, p900 and p910, I loved them all, but i hate my p990i.

SEUS also bricked it and I had to send if off under warranty once already, it still doesn't work very well, battery life is awful and the software is far too muddled.
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Posted: 2007-06-22 11:24
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On 2007-06-21 22:10:08, gazhay wrote:
If I could pay someone to swap me their N95 I would.

The p990i is a turkey, after owning a p800, p900 and p910, I loved them all, but i hate my p990i.

SEUS also bricked it and I had to send if off under warranty once already, it still doesn't work very well, battery life is awful and the software is far too muddled.


i sooooo agree with you!
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