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kgtjan
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Up to 320  240 pixels and 15fps, according to the review article in the mobile-review.com | |
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origami2002
Joined: Sep 09, 2003
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I don't think of P9xx as a bussiness phone, I'd like to see it as the vision of what a smartphone must be. I should be a handheld device to keep you connected, therefore:
Sound/Video/Image quality IS important
PDA functions are essencial.
GPS is a very nice touch
I know is a contradiction, but I'd also like extended battery life 
QWERTY is disposable, I prefer to write directly on the screen, I prefer bigger screen than fancy keyboards.
Just to comment, when I was in college, I used to have in my belt a Casio 9850x calc, a Nec 'Brick'phone and a Palm IIIx (yes, what a nerd!). P910 (and the fact I'm no longer in college ) allowed me to have one, small brick in my pocket. It is 1/4 size and about 1/8 size my old Nec Cell phone
Answering the poll:
1. Physcial size
Thinner = better, but current size is ok
2. Camera(current 2MP)
- 5M , I can afford additional cost of up to:
.$150
3. Video - current QVGA (320x240)? 16fps?
- VGA with 32fps
4. QWERTY keyboard
- don't care
5. GPS function
- a must
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Nitro Fan
Joined: Jun 11, 2003
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On 2006-04-29 01:26:16, pikey100 wrote:
I still don't see why a business phone should have a camera. Dump it. IR?, Dump it. Poncy headphone sockets?. It's got BT, dump it. In fact, by the time teh P100 would be out, Wi-fi will have completely taken over. Dump the BT too! GPS could be built into a car holder. It's not needed on the main phone. Complicated "power" socket? Dump it. the bloomin phone costs over £400. You can afford to make on lousy special connector (still for a standard SE charger of course!).
Trim the fat, and it could be a great looking, slimline, powerpacked masterpiece.
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The camera is critical to the business card scanner! a real time saver so I say lets keep it.
The headphone socket is crucial to enable us to listen to music in stereo for a decent length of time! BT headsets are OK but make you look like a complete and utter muppet walking about in them!!!! and they eat batterys like no tomorrow.
Wi Fi is great feature but will kill battery life the most important thing to be included in the P990 is a decent battery & a quality build please  !!!, forget the P1000, if can discontinue its "flagship P910" before the P990 is even released! they are not going to be rushing a so called P1000 out to the market P1000 = VAPOUR PHONE!!!!
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 P910i P900 T610 T68i all great phones Please Hurry Up P990!
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g4dg3tfr34k
Joined: Sep 24, 2006
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The P990 is clearly too late. It was under spec'd to begin with.
Compare it to the O2 XDA II (which has been obsolete for a year):
phone: P990 XDA II
processor: 208 ARM 400Mhz XScale
screen size: 240 x 320 640 x 480
colour depth: 64Bit 64 Bit
camera: 2 Mega 1.3 Mega
WiFi: 802.11 b 802.11b
internal memory: 80MB 128MB
keyboard optional? NO YES (3rd party)
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• Lose the IR port. Bluetooth is the way forward.
• Forget the keyboard (designed for an infants fingers).
• use a telescopic stylus.
• 802.11g not b!!
• improve video playback fps.
• always have a 3mm stereo mini-jack.
• gps works better with an external antenna, do not include gps (use time difference)
• all buttons should be mappable
• screen MUST lock when you answer the phone.Your face makes screen keystrokes!
• therefore, buttons for answer and hang-up
• keep 5-way jog dial.
• make keyboard optional !!!
• landscape OR portrait screen format (UIQ 3)
• metal housing (new iPod nano's have)
• The GPU wil take pressure of the ARM, but 208 Mhz?! I know there is a lot of questions about al this: whether a seemingly slower processor can be faster overall.
• an iTunes partnership could be beneficial to many users. It would be nice to sync to a PC music library and have an auto-reformat/ opitmisation for viewing films, as well as music download via WiFi and 3G as is already in use on other SE models.
• A good camera IS essential for a business phone: don't forget professionals like: quantity surveyors, designers, architects, builders, etc. The OCR for business cards could easily be adapted for OCR of many different things. Reference books at the library for example.
• Sony has been using motion sensitive switches on devices like cameras which can sense the orientation of the screen and can be used by shaking the device. This could be used for a different input like denying a call, or deleting a message.
• I would like to be able to use my phone to do 3D sketches with some basic editing tools for technical drawings. The Java 3D engine is capable of being used for this.
• I use a P910i. It can be slow at times when using multiple apps. or during music playback while composing messages. I'm not impressed with the P990. I wish my P910 had some of the P990 features: like WiFi and a better camera with lense cover and light. That would have been enough for me to upgrade my p910i.
• The P990 seems to be a case of one step forward and two steps back: removing features that were very useful and replacing them with not so useful alternatives.
• The delay to market has been so excessive that it's already obsolete. Now the P990 sucessor will be delayed while they ship these awful phones out to us. We're not that naive SE. I don't HAVE to replace my P910, so I won't. Too bad, since I have the cash to change... |
Jah
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@g4dg3tfr34k
BUT
The O2 XDA is not a 3G device, this is a big difference and it does not have persistent memory, again a really big technical difference.
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Residentevil
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You just can't pack lot of features into thin air. Everybody wants a tiny phone with a big screen and a lotta features just not possible. P series size is ok in my opinion.
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Miss UK
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Id say the P990i is at its end and that the P series will be replaced by the M610i possibley next btw a upto date camera would be good for the next SE smart.
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mario2004
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Did any of you hear of "trinity' - TyTN's successor ? Has got most of the features you chaps ask for. On the other hand, if you want a phone more then a palmtop, have a look at the N73. Off course, if you are 'stuck' to one brand only, you may lose out big time. Trinity is my next cell :D
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locoworks
Joined: Dec 19, 2003
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On 2006-04-29 01:26:16, pikey100 wrote:
I still don't see why a business phone should have a camera. Dump it. IR?, Dump it. Poncy headphone sockets?. It's got BT, dump it. In fact, by the time teh P100 would be out, Wi-fi will have completely taken over. Dump the BT too! GPS could be built into a car holder. It's not needed on the main phone. Complicated "power" socket? Dump it. the bloomin phone costs over £400. You can afford to make on lousy special connector (still for a standard SE charger of course!).
Trim the fat, and it could be a great looking, slimline, powerpacked masterpiece.
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i agree with the power socket part and to some extent the IR but thats about it.
i don't consider the P series business phones, more like phones that can be very useful to a business person but not exclusively. keep the camera but make it 3 or 4 mpx, make the video a quality item like samsungs or nokia N93. have a PROPER flash too. headphone socket is a must for media listening. BT and WIFI keep, GPS? built in would be nice but a third party receiver over BT is acceptable.Not all people use GPS in a car so GPS cradles are not everyones answer. hikers, pushbikes, etc. a great use for GPS is if you attend a big event with acres of cars or motorbikes parked. setting your parking space as a favourite is a great way of finding your vehicle 8 hours later. loose the Qwerty on the main phone, put it back on the flip and give us a huge screen with either the 5 way jog dial back OR one of those thumb pad things as on the 990 flip outer below a slightly bigger screen than is current. so it looks similar to an N80 if you remove the flip and have the same flip front as a 990. that way flip on or off you have a thumb pad to navigate with.
on a down side, to cram all this into a smaller package or even the same you can bet your first born that a new P series phone will use the new tiny duo cards and not the ones we all have now. |
g4dg3tfr34k
Joined: Sep 24, 2006
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• Has anyone heard rumours about Apple releasing a touchscreen based device? There are several patents and a deal with Samsung (or another manufacturer) for touch screens already being filled.
• To me it seems that SE is losing interest in the P series phones. This is going to be a mistake, especially if Apple releases a tablet (Newton-esque) video iPod. You'll see. Then other manufacturer's will jump on the band wagon.
• Everytime I pull out my P910i there is someone who is fascinated and wants one. A better marketing push would bump the sales and kerpow- SE injects more cash into P series development... Dream on I guess. |
locoworks
Joined: Dec 19, 2003
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I take it all back , the Nokia N95 seems to be my ideal 'P' series phone.without touch screen i assume. COME ON SE, get your act together or sell ot to NOKIA. |
g4dg3tfr34k
Joined: Sep 24, 2006
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Not wishing to sound rude, but this is meant to be a thread discussing "P1000" design. In other words suggestions and debate about features, form factor, and other matters relating to product design.
Perhaps we could restrict our comments to comparisons and explanations as to why you prefer a phone over another, rather than just "big upping" your favourite brand.
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