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chamcg
Joined: Dec 13, 2007
Posts: 19
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well........iv also experiance dat problem few times...
and my solution is(acording to my phone) ....let me explain da scenario
there two levels of camera button...first level for focusing and outher one is take da pic.
but what iv notieced was there are THREE levels in cam button.
1-auto focusing
2-take da pic with flash(but picture is totally black)
3-take da pic with flash n its look gr8. no problem @ all...
i think u guys gt da point.
those r my experiance. dnt think m crazy.
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vbayma
Joined: Mar 30, 2006
Posts: 142
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On 2007-12-23 19:56:01, chamcg wrote:
well........iv also experiance dat problem few times...
and my solution is(acording to my phone) ....let me explain da scenario
there two levels of camera button...first level for focusing and outher one is take da pic.
but what iv notieced was there are THREE levels in cam button.
1-auto focusing
2-take da pic with flash(but picture is totally black)
3-take da pic with flash n its look gr8. no problem @ all...
i think u guys gt da point.
those r my experiance. dnt think m crazy.
Intersting, let me try that, so a good solution is to press the cam button a litle harder after focus? I'm going to try and tell later... |
obentou
Joined: Sep 19, 2005
Posts: 364
From: Toronto
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On 2007-12-23 19:56:01, chamcg wrote:
well........iv also experiance dat problem few times...
and my solution is(acording to my phone) ....let me explain da scenario
there two levels of camera button...first level for focusing and outher one is take da pic.
but what iv notieced was there are THREE levels in cam button.
1-auto focusing
2-take da pic with flash(but picture is totally black)
3-take da pic with flash n its look gr8. no problem @ all...
i think u guys gt da point.
those r my experiance. dnt think m crazy.
lol. I think you're crazy 
Never in my life have I heard of a mechanism that has 3 levels, especially 1 designed to take a black picture.  |
obentou
Joined: Sep 19, 2005
Posts: 364
From: Toronto
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To follow up on my previous post... this problem only affects SOME K850i's:
K850i PCB reference design:
My 07W47 K850i LED control:
This is on 80% brightness, with a dark environment so no auto-LED brightening. This unevenness wasn't apparent in my old handset made in W37, not sure if this is a firmware problem since the F/W DOES control how the LED's go off and on, I think.
[ This Message was edited by: obentou on 2007-12-23 21:09 ] |
darrengf
Joined: Dec 21, 2003
Posts: > 500
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@vbayma I completely agree with you and thats what i have been saying.
the blackness isnt there all the time., but i can easiley get the phone to take a black pic with out any problems.
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@obentou I have the same with the w41 on my k850, I also had some very dark shadows arround the screen.
My w47 has none of the inherent faults of my other 4 phones.
in my other 4 phones i have had
touchpad issues, keyboard issues, led lights no correct, dust under shutter, poorly shut battery compartment and so on.
Nothing is like that on my w47 phone.
However if this one goes faulty then i may get a Nokia N82
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@ vortigern. R1DA is the current version and is now replacin version R1CA. (It hasnt been fully released as of yet)
I beleive that some people are havin issues with memory problems on R1DA038 so keep your eye on your phone.
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@alanjrobertson I cant fault o2 in all of this, they have been very good.
The reboots are still hapening on mine, so dont worry about it. SE are aware of the fault and the next firmware should resolve most of the issues people are having.
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-12-25 12:07 ] |
chamcg
Joined: Dec 13, 2007
Posts: 19
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lol. I think you're crazy
Never in my life have I heard of a mechanism that has 3 levels, especially 1 designed to take a black picture.
i didnt say that is a another design. and its also strange to me. anyway its ok.
and other thing is it doesnt need to cover the whole sensor to screw up da pic. its enough small shadow of finger to make da pic black. so b careful abt ur fingers...!!!
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@obentou.......
yes its true they are controlling brightness of LED in keypad trough firmware and everyone does. and also there are some certain issues abt LEDs as well..
in ur case, cant say its in firmware.cz keypad lights coupled with horizontally. (this time m nt crazy) cz when ur plug ur handsfree u can see some light pattern and they animate in vertical way. so firmware should treat fairly everyone in row. 
so fault should be in LED. which has higher resistance than the other. (i guess so). |
baste07
Joined: Nov 07, 2002
Posts: > 500
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just bought this phone and the 3 button on the lower screen is great.... nice change |
stevenupton1
Joined: Oct 20, 2007
Posts: 18
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Im not a happy chappy, ive just recieved my 4th K850i on O2 and this one is worse than all the rest ive had, the problem with this one is the bottom left corner of the lcd screen just below the "media" menu, there is a bright white led showing through. It looks like the screen hasnt been put on properly or not straight, ive phoned O2 today and they are sending me a new one out on fri, if this one isnt right im going to swap and move to a LG Viewty as from what ive read they have a much better reputation than these do. Last chance Sony lol ! |
darrengf
Joined: Dec 21, 2003
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On 2007-12-24 15:12:57, stevenupton1 wrote:
Im not a happy chappy, ive just recieved my 4th K850i on O2 and this one is worse than all the rest ive had, the problem with this one is the bottom left corner of the lcd screen just below the "media" menu, there is a bright white led showing through. It looks like the screen hasnt been put on properly or not straight, ive phoned O2 today and they are sending me a new one out on fri, if this one isnt right im going to swap and move to a LG Viewty as from what ive read they have a much better reputation than these do. Last chance Sony lol !
Was the replacement a band new one from o2 or a refurb.
Do you know the week number of the phone.
I have just got my 5th replacement from o2 and this is much much better screwed together. w47 is the phone date |
stevenupton1
Joined: Oct 20, 2007
Posts: 18
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On 2007-12-24 15:27:10, darrengf wrote:
On 2007-12-24 15:12:57, stevenupton1 wrote:
Im not a happy chappy, ive just recieved my 4th K850i on O2 and this one is worse than all the rest ive had, the problem with this one is the bottom left corner of the lcd screen just below the "media" menu, there is a bright white led showing through. It looks like the screen hasnt been put on properly or not straight, ive phoned O2 today and they are sending me a new one out on fri, if this one isnt right im going to swap and move to a LG Viewty as from what ive read they have a much better reputation than these do. Last chance Sony lol !
Was the replacement a band new one from o2 or a refurb.
Do you know the week number of the phone.
I have just got my 5th replacement from o2 and this is much much better screwed together. w47 is the phone date
I believe it to be a brand new one as I got it via the door to door courier service O2 provide, how do I find the week number and i'l gladly tell you, cheers |
darrengf
Joined: Dec 21, 2003
Posts: > 500
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Click on here, this will explain to you on how to ain your week number of your phone.
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=157121&start=342
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stevenupton1
Joined: Oct 20, 2007
Posts: 18
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Hi mate just checked my phone and its 07w47. |
darrengf
Joined: Dec 21, 2003
Posts: > 500
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there the latest ones being released by o2 at min.
Can you take a pic and post it on hear of what the fault you are getting with the phone |
stevenupton1
Joined: Oct 20, 2007
Posts: 18
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Yea will get a pic on here the min I can. |
obentou
Joined: Sep 19, 2005
Posts: 364
From: Toronto
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On 2007-12-24 08:23:10, chamcg wrote:
lol. I think you're crazy
Never in my life have I heard of a mechanism that has 3 levels, especially 1 designed to take a black picture.
i didnt say that is a another design. and its also strange to me. anyway its ok.
and other thing is it doesnt need to cover the whole sensor to screw up da pic. its enough small shadow of finger to make da pic black. so b careful abt ur fingers...!!!
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@obentou.......
yes its true they are controlling brightness of LED in keypad trough firmware and everyone does. and also there are some certain issues abt LEDs as well..
in ur case, cant say its in firmware.cz keypad lights coupled with horizontally. (this time m nt crazy) cz when ur plug ur handsfree u can see some light pattern and they animate in vertical way. so firmware should treat fairly everyone in row.
so fault should be in LED. which has higher resistance than the other. (i guess so).
Haha, I agree with you here! Probably poor manufacturing of the PCB... bah, can't believe I've picked up 2 bad apples now. Might just go with a green one, all the ones I've tried had none of these problems. |
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