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Maximys
any info on upcoming announcement 
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jalf
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"is everybody in?????
the ceremony is about to begin..."
when can we hear this????  |
dancingfate
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On 2008-05-20 15:08:21, Maximys wrote:
T280i has fast-port at the top.
No wonder, since T250 also has the same location of fast-port. 
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The fastport itself is ugly so it should not be on the top or at least have a cover. |
domipost
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they shouldn't have a fast port at all.
Everyone prefers Micro USB and a 3.5mm plug |
NightBlade
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On 2008-05-20 15:56:55, domipost wrote:
Everyone prefers Micro USB and a 3.5mm plug
1) Not quite.
2) Most people don't even care. |
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On 2008-05-20 14:54:00, Keiki wrote:
It clear that SE have difficutries producing Higer end devices, and will NOT producing JAPANEESE phone again due to unability to follow advancement of Japaneese standart.
Se is a trully KING of MID-LOW END Phones
It simply means SE will not be straddling both the Japanese NTTDocomo AND non-Japanese market. It will still be making phones for AU in Japan - the W61s for example.
Are there many phone manufacturers that are successful both within the Japanese market and also compete on a global scale? I can't think of many.
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On 2008-05-20 14:50:31, Maximys wrote:
@tobiphill It is non-European site. Look here:
Sony Ericsson Mobile Communication (USA) Inc.
Do you have access at this site?
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gola
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On 2008-05-20 15:56:55, domipost wrote:
they shouldn't have a fast port at all.
Everyone prefers Micro USB and a 3.5mm plug
i agree, clearly they do not know what to do with it...
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On 2008-05-20 16:11:40, goldenface wrote:
On 2008-05-20 14:54:00, Keiki wrote:
It clear that SE have difficutries producing Higer end devices, and will NOT producing JAPANEESE phone again due to unability to follow advancement of Japaneese standart.
Se is a trully KING of MID-LOW END Phones
It simply means SE will not be straddling both the Japanese NTTDocomo AND non-Japanese market. It will still be making phones for AU in Japan - the W61s for example.
Are there many phone manufacturers that are successful both within the Japanese market and also compete on a global scale? I can't think of many.
Correct.
DoCoMo are a very demanding customer, whose phones are absolutely feature packed with the very very very latest in technology and also they are specifically adapted to the Japanese market (e.g. no GSM support).
Good for DoCoMo customers.
Bad for SE (+ other manufacturers) as it means they end up with a handset that is unsellable on the world market, restricting the sales of that handset to DoCoMo customers only.
DoCoMo has approx. 50 million subscribers. Lets be generous and say for example, 40% of them change there handset every year = 20 million handsets per year.
That market of 20 million handsets has to be divided between all the vendors (lets say 10 vendors, which is 2 million each) and all the handset models (lets say 5 different models from each vendor).
That means any one handset model has a production run of 400,000 units.
When you look at the development costs, type approval and certification costs, distribution and marketing costs and the warranty/repair costs, it is difficult to justify the investment.
So what I understand from the announcement is that SE will stop making DoCoMo specific handsets and focus on the world market, where there are better volumes of scale to be had.
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@tobiphill No. I think, nothing interesting there.
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Dogmann
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Hi all,
Never mind having a hard time selling high end handsets just what high end handsets does SE have in Europe then?
Now if you an SE think the P1 and W960 are high end handsets no wonder there in so much trouble the only high end thing about them was the price that then drops like a stone. No wonder they can't make any money out of them.
SE appears to have lost ground every where in the ranges to rivals even the Cybershot range that they led in has slipped just look at the K850 and all it's problems and pulled advertising for it.
SE really need to gain back there reputation for producing leading edge quality handsets or they are destined to slip further in the tough times ahead for the whole market.
Just thinking SE is always the best really doesn't count and there fan base is no where big enough to carry them either IMO.
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xironghostx
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On 2008-05-20 16:01:16, NightBlade wrote:
On 2008-05-20 15:56:55, domipost wrote:
Everyone prefers Micro USB and a 3.5mm plug
1) Not quite.
2) Most people don't even care.
1 pretty many, yes
2 most people do actually care. |
adcamb
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Most phones on the market don't have 3.5mm jacks and people still buy them, which I think is your answer. My HSB-220 does and works beautifully without wrapping me in 2m of cord.SE, Mitsubishi and others pulled out of DoCoMo development in March because of its onerous requirements to focus on other markets. this really isn't news. |
dr.W
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On 2008-05-20 17:45:14, xironghostx wrote:
On 2008-05-20 16:01:16, NightBlade wrote:
On 2008-05-20 15:56:55, domipost wrote:
Everyone prefers Micro USB and a 3.5mm plug
1) Not quite.
2) Most people don't even care.
1 pretty many, yes
2 most people do actually care.
I have to agree with NightBlade, the vast majority, ok all, of the people I know don't care about a 3.5mm jack. I would venture that most people who care that much about the quality of their music get a dedicated MP3 player. If you are making the compromise of listening to your music from your phone then you probably aren't going to be using the highest quality headphones. If you are the type of person who has to use the highest quality headphones while listening to your music on your phone then I don't see how using an adaptor affects the quality of your life or listening experience.
I know that was a longer reply than necessary to make my overall point that there are a lot more important features on a phone than the size of its audio jack plug. I'd list them all here, but I don't think that would be necessary.
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