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methylated_spirit
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From: Bonnie Scotland
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the only lucid, well thought out, intelligent post meths has ever made has been lost in all the nastiness 
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carkitter
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@vanquish
You're out of line. You'll get this thread locked.
Seems Scotsboyuk was right after all. It's very sad.
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scotsboyuk
Joined: Jun 02, 2003
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This is actually a very simple issue if we look at it rationally for a moment.
Political/religious threads should be able to exist here at Esato, in moderation of course (pardon the pun). Suchthreads should be civil and rational with all participants respecting one another. Unfortunately this seldom happens and they usually descend into pettiness and flaming.
Why should such threads, which consistently produce these reults, be allowed t continue in that vein? As I said I do favour banning them completely, but I accept that that is neither a popular nor likely option. Therefore I am perfectly happy to go along with the idea of letting them continue, but I do think we need tougher rule son them.
First and foremost political/religious comments should be banned from any thread, which does not specifically deal with them. Secondly those threads, which do should be under strict supervision so that at the first hint of flaming or anger the thread is locked. Harsh, but effective. If people cannot conduct themselve sin a civil manner then they should not be allowed to debate such topics. Those who wish to discuss such issues will just have to learn to be more civil towards one another and think before they type.
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methylated_spirit
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From: Bonnie Scotland
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more civil...thats the major one, and you cant moderate that! If peope want to fight, they are going to. the main offenders 9its always the same half dozen, from what i can see, anyway) need to grow up, let others have their say, and respond in a mature, reasonable way.
IMHO (In Meths' Humble Opinion) 
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haynesycop
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it is obvious that these threads are not going to work
i myself and most other people on esato respect peoples opinions even if i/we do not agree with them
but unfortunately there are a small minority of people who are unable to to do this and as a result threads get locked
it is a sad situation which i doubt will change anytime soon
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vanquish
Joined: Mar 20, 2003
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On 2005-07-11 13:22:58, carkitter wrote:
@vanquish
You're out of line. You'll get this thread locked.
Seems Scotsboyuk was right after all. It's very sad.
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How am I out of line? I know I am very... loud, and very honest. But yes, i am honest, i dont beat about the bush.
The message is clear. If you think a poltical or religious thread is getting out of hand contact a moderator. Do not fire it up, post in it, call members rude names because of their views etc.
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scotsboyuk
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@meths & miss c
I wholeheartedly agree with both of you. It seems to me that confrontation and bitterness keeps arising in these threads. I think it is entirely reasonable to do what I suggested in my last post in this thread.
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axxxr
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From: Londinium
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On 2005-07-11 13:13:03, vanquish wrote:
Well get more moderators then.
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why did i call you an idiot? look back at your first post in this thread.
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I don't think you should stoop down to petty name calling...but that might just be your level.
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scotsboyuk
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@vanquish & axxxr
If either of you have a problem with one another please conduct it via pm thank you. This is really just going towards proving my point really, and I think I can do that quite adequately myself thank you very much.
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axxxr
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On 2005-07-11 13:41:56, scotsboyuk wrote:
@vanquish & axxxr
If either of you have a problem with one another please conduct it via pm thank you. This is really just going towards proving my point really, and I think I can do that quite adequately myself thank you very much.
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Thats what i said to Vanquish earlier...to sort this matter out by PM.
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vanquish
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@axxxr
Its now time to leave it, but i wouldnt say calling someone an idiot was petty name calling, i would call it stating the facts. Face it! This is a delicate thread and your first post in it was just... petty! It was meant to be humouress, which in my view is stupid. So no, you wont get an apology from me, sorry, but as a religious person i dont like seeing people walking all over my beliefs as if they are nothing, which i saw you do in another thread.
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sorry mate, lets continue the discussion,
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carkitter
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On 2005-07-11 13:13:03, vanquish wrote:
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why did i call you an idiot? look back at your first post in this thread... |
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Hmm... Look back at your posts, you'll see where you're out of line.
Why would I PM a mod? I never shrink from a vigorous debate. Just look at the America/Iraq thread. However I don't insult the opponent, they just get frustrated when thier argument falls flat.
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vanquish
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@car
I am not saying everyone that gets involved in political debates causes the thread to get out of hand. I fully believe that you are a mature and responsible guy that likes a debate, but remember other people arent like that and its better to be safe than sorry, in my view stop political and religious major debates to avoid someone saying something stupid, or someone getting hurt.
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axxxr
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On 2005-07-11 13:47:33, vanquish wrote:
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Its now time to leave it, but i wouldnt say calling someone an idiot was petty name calling, i would call it stating the facts. Face it! This is a delicate thread and your first post in it was just... petty! It was meant to be humouress, which in my view is stupid. So no, you wont get an apology from me, sorry, but as a religious person i dont like seeing people walking all over my beliefs as if they are nothing, which i saw you do in another thread.
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I'm not going to allow you get away with your pathetic remarks..If you want to know the facts then i shall have to come down to your low level and tell you that your a Pr*ck now thats A FACT...why don't you go and run back to se-nse because we here are regualar members and we stick to one forum...I spend all my time on esato so for me this forum is my only forum that i use...and like to discuss what i feel and like,and i shall continue to do so...and how and when did i walk all over your beliefs?...can you elaborate,clearly you have some major problems.
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absinthebri
Joined: Feb 11, 2004
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On 2005-07-11 13:29:15, miss copperfield wrote:
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i myself and most other people on esato respect peoples opinions even if i/we do not agree with them
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For me it's not so much other people's opinions that are the issue (I accept and respect a person's right to hold a view and to share that view); it's ofen an issue of fact.
Take for example, the messages of condolence from world leaders after last Thursday's outrage. The Israeli Foreign Minister said, "Israel, which has a long experience of terrorism, shares in the pain of the British people... I hope that the free world will now be less lax in its attitude towards terrorist organisations." (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4660415.stm). That is a political statement. The condolence is a mere aside for him to spread a message through.
I would say that the state of Israel is one of the greatest terrorist organisations in the world. The body count of innocent Palestinian deaths is there for all to see. My statement is clearly political (that it's factual makes it no less political).
Some people will ask why I singled out Israel's comment and they are right - I'm making a specific political point.
This post may attract comments. Politics is everywhere.
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