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Bonovox
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I would choose the LG Arena anytime over an iphone. Oh and i hate Apple cos you have to burn all your music to itunes before playing it. What crap. Never rated Apple. O2 was the wrong network for iphone as their network for data is sooooooo slow. Now Orange is reliable and fast.
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NightBlade
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On 2009-04-01 20:48:40, se_love wrote:
I also dont get the hype behind it? I walked into a Vodafone yesterday with a friend of mine and he had a question and another guy came up to me and asked can i help you? And I said no thanks i am looking at stuff while i wait for my friend. And he was all aha okay wanna check out the i-phone? I went to him no thanks cause its a phone with very low specs very overhyped and i consider it a piece of garbage that i will never lay my hands on. I was told to get out of the store because i said that. YAY for stupid i-followers. Oh and the responce i recieved at a store called germanos was even more funny. I bet you will love owning an I-Phone more then you will love owning a W705. And i told them man clearly and forward:
Of course i will love paying 300 more euros for a phone that works 5x lesser then mine. And again kicked out. What the hell is apple some kind of mind controller!?
They kicked you out? LOL!
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SloopJohnB
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´burn all your music to itunes´ ??
Where the hell did you hear that? |
Bhavv
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On 2009-04-01 22:12:35, SloopJohnB wrote:
I guess I'll have to repeat myself. Saying lg arena is better than the iPhone because you got a better plan on your current carrier is no real argument because this thread is about the iPhone as a phone. If your country have bad plans, blame it on the carriers not the iPhone or even apple.
Another mistake you make in your arguments is measuring the quality of a feature or the power of phone based on your personal use or preference. You have to be unbiased and generic when comparing things or even when making any logical argument otherwise your subjective ideas can't corrupt everything. If I was following your corrupted line of thought I could say for example that for me personally a digital camera is not relevant therefore lg arena is nothing more to me than a brick that makes calls. See my point? You need to learn " argumentation" and also a bit of logic.
There's no denying to the fact that since the iPhone is a smartphone with thousands of developers (official or not) constantly working on it, it's a more capable phone than lg arena. You can't use lg arena to help with business email, or studying or checking clinical info or doing complicated math or using spredsheets for your work or playing high quality games or etc etc etc. The iPhone is more capable because it was designed that way, lg arena wasn't. This is an unbiased, objective view of both phones and what they offer. People won't take you seriously if you continue arguing the way you do because is childish.
By the way, I'm not a teenager like you were insinuating, I'm 24y old, how about you?
[ This Message was edited by: SloopJohnB on 2009-04-01 21:15 ]
God, you I Phone followers are forever ignorant.
I Phone is ONLY AVAILABLE on one exclusive network in each country, cannot be unlocked without voiding warranty and losing updates, no OS3 for you if you unlock your phone!
Why would I buy an I Phone if it is only available on a crap network that doesnt offer data tariffs anywhere near as good as the others?
I am not even saying the I Phone is crap just because of the network, the I Phone is crap because, out of the box you get:
- Locked to one crap network for 18 months, cannot be unlocked without voiding warranty. Only available on rubbish overpriced tariffs.
- No MMS, Bluetooth, copy paste for *12 WHOLE MONTHS* Since release of the I Phone 3G without having to jailbreak or wait a WHOLE YEAR since taking your I Phone out of the box to get these features.
- Only 2 MP camera with no video recording, your video recording app is still a piece of rubbish quality crap, as is your crap camera. Oh, hey, you still have to CARRY AROUND A SEPERATE CAMERA if you ever want to take pictures!!! At least my phone does everything I need it to in one device - yes my internet browser can watch youtube, use forums and facebook, I still like buttons for texting and entering messages though, and I still love my T700 and can use it if I want to. That doesnt mean my LG is worse then your I Phone, the fact that your I Phone is worse then my LG makes your I Phone worse then my LG.
- LG also has better video playback and audio, Dolby Mobile is not a software upgrade like you jealous I Phone worshipers want to believe, it is the equivalent of having a better soundcard. I am fairly certain that it is far better sound quality then your I Phone is, and no, apps do not upgrade your hardware or chipset and you will never be able to get the better sound quality that I have on my LG. Stop living in a fantasy world where you think apps are going to fix everyone of your crap I Phones problems.
- No removable battery, even if it can be charged with a power pack, this isnt the issue, the issue is that batteries dont really last very long duhhh! You have to send your phone back to apple to get a new battery, I just buy and replace mine in 24 hours. You are going to be disappointed with your I Phone when the battery dies, or begins leaking charge and rapidly depleting, I just go to the store or online and buy another one.
- No expandable memory. Arent you just going to be really really disappointed when all of your 8 / 16 GB of memory get full? Like, how are you going to add any more apps or music? I on the other hand can already get 24 GB total with just one 16 GB memory card, and buy another if it gets full. Funny that boinng thinks I regret buying a phone because I looked at the wrong memory type, when I can already have 8 GB more then your crap I Phone readilly available. You are seriously seriously going to regret having bought an I Phone when its memory gets filled up, no doubt about that, no more apps, no more music, no more videos, no more anything can be added to your device.
Now, dont you wish that you could get a phone that did everything it ought to right out of the box with decent specifications to last for 18 months without requiring jailbreaking, invalidated warranty from unlocking, and having to wait 12 months for an update that gives it the same functionality as a phone from 3 - 5 years ago?
I surely would be severely dissapointed with the I Phone. If I wanted or needed a business phone, I would much rather get a blackberry anyday. But I really dont need apps on my phone, neither to I have to wait 12-18 months for a rubbish software update because everything just works straight of the box with no problems and with nothing missing. |
Bhavv
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I really wonder where the bias is in any of my posts, I am posting hard facts, yet the real bias is coming from I Phone worshipers that think an app or software upgrade is going to fix all of their problems.
I dont need apps or software upgrades because unlike your crap I Phone, mine does everything it should as soon as I take it out of the box.
And no, you are never, ever, ever going to be able to use apps or software to rival the features of my better handset. No 5 MP for you. No 720x480 recording for you. No dolby mobile and wonderful sound quality either. Nope, you'll never get a free software upgrade to 7.2 Mbps. I have been using full bluetooth, copy paste, and sent the occasional MMS for years on end now, and like, wow, your finally going to get to be able to do this in June 2009! How modern and technologically advanced you must feel about being able to send files wirelessly and copy and paste your text from June 2009 onwards.
I am sure glad that I buy phones which work as they should right out of the box with nothing missing, unlike your rubbish I Phone.
I dont need to wait for software updates because there is nothing that needs adding. I dont need to jailbreak, because everything already works. And I dont need apps because my phone does everything I need it too. All unlike the wonderful I Phone.
My phone just works and does everything. Your I phone has to wait 12 months for an OS upgrade, and you like to waste your pocket money downloading games from the App store. Good for you!
No one that actually needs a serious business phone would get an I Phone, there are better phones available for that as well like the Blackberries and HTCs.
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Bhavv
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On 2009-04-02 00:48:41, NightBlade wrote:
On 2009-04-01 20:48:40, se_love wrote:
I also dont get the hype behind it? I walked into a Vodafone yesterday with a friend of mine and he had a question and another guy came up to me and asked can i help you? And I said no thanks i am looking at stuff while i wait for my friend. And he was all aha okay wanna check out the i-phone? I went to him no thanks cause its a phone with very low specs very overhyped and i consider it a piece of garbage that i will never lay my hands on. I was told to get out of the store because i said that. YAY for stupid i-followers. Oh and the responce i recieved at a store called germanos was even more funny. I bet you will love owning an I-Phone more then you will love owning a W705. And i told them man clearly and forward:
Of course i will love paying 300 more euros for a phone that works 5x lesser then mine. And again kicked out. What the hell is apple some kind of mind controller!?
They kicked you out? LOL!
Heaven forbid that you blaspheme the holy I Phone! Everyone is required to simply fall to their knees and worship the divine device, just because Apple's adverts have told you it is the best thing ever since sliced bread. |
whizkidd
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On 2009-04-02 06:22:18, Bhavv wrote:
I Phone is ONLY AVAILABLE on one exclusive network in each country, cannot be unlocked without voiding warranty and losing updates, no OS3 for you if you unlock your phone!
Its on two networks here in India. Vodafone and Airtel.
T230 >> T610 >> Ngage QD >> N73 >> N85 >> Omnia HD >> And countless other review units |
captainsm
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I was prepared to hate the iPhone, but i got an unlocked one and use it with the operator of my choice here in Sweden.
I must say it's the best phone (for my uses) i've ever had. |
anonymuser
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Published in July 2008, and yet here in March 2009 the iPhone is still very much alive, having sold 13m handsets in 2008 alone (mostly the second half at that), attracted the developers of 30,000 apps globally, and caused one non-fan of the iPhone this week to ask right here "why is the iPhone more relevant".
My LG Arena is a lot more decent then your I Phone is. I tried the browser again today and I am much more used to it and watching videos on youtube, viewing and posting on forums ETC. It just takes a little getting used to thats all.
Right. A couple of days ago it was a "major problem", yesterday it was so bad you were going to sell the phone in six months and just use your PC in the meantime, and now today it's tickety-boo after all. Very convincing I'm sure.
Likely older then you, as the people who wrote all the above articles prbably are as well, but hey, I dont go around judging others.
Whatever you say, granddad. For such a wise old gent you certainly seem to have a surprisingly limited understanding of the needs of other phone users, but since I'm only 34 I've probably still got much to learn.
Nokia, and Sony Ericsson for sure have never succedded before the I Phone was released in America. They hardly had any phones of its qualities when it was released, there was no N95, not even a K800i available in the USA when the original I Phone was released. I'm not too sure about LG, but I dont think they made high end handsets back then. I wish you actually tried to your reading on different mobile markets around the world, but hey, I dont expect a teenager to know everything.
This is one confused paragraph. Are you actually saying that the iPhone beat the competition in America because it was better, because that's certainly how it reads. Not really sure how that squares with your other statements.
You're talking a lot about the original iPhone there, but you know that the 3G has sold many times more than the original both in America and elsewhere, right?
But they never had 3G support or any data tarrifs available untill the I Phone was released. Back then, only 3 and T Mobile had 90%+ 3G coverage in the UK with inclusive data tariffs, O2, Orange and Voda were very very late to the mobile internet market.
O2 launched 3G in 2004, and HSDPA in 2006, the same year as T-Mobile. But I've no idea why the history of O2 is relevant anyway, I had nothing to do with O2 until they launched the iPhone 3G and didn't switch to them till October 2008. The tarriff I'm on is basically the same as my previous Vodafone contract + data bundle, the network coverage is fine (I'm in a fairly rural area where the likes of T-Mobile and Three are often unusable for voice let alone data) - basically switching for the iPhone was a no-brainer.
When did I do this? I was talking about the US market, not the UK. In the UK, we already have had far better and equally good handsets available when the I Phone was released, particularly the N95. The USA didnt have anything like N95 / K800i, no 3G support and the country was still widely using EDGE / GPRS, hence why the first I Phone didnt implement 3G support because it wasnt supported at the time in the USA.
All of which in part explains the relative performance of the first generation iPhone in the US and UK, but not the 3G model, which was up against supposedly stiff competition all over the world but has still been a storming success, equalling and exceeding the N95's previous UK sales for example. And do you not think that when you tried to suggest that in the UK "very many of those people bought the handset purely because it looked nice and is made by apple, and it is their first claim to owning a mobile internet capable device" you were belittling the sophistication of the UK market?
I have been using Mobile Internet for far far longer then you have on your I hone.
I was tethering computers to my old Ericsson T39 using infra-red about 8 years before I got the iPhone, what's your point?
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Barachus
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On 2009-04-02 08:17:38, captainsm wrote:
I was prepared to hate the iPhone, but i got an unlocked one and use it with the operator of my choice here in Sweden.
I must say it's the best phone (for my uses) i've ever had.
that is the general concensus of most ppl that have iphones, its the people that dont actually own one that devote some much time and energy to ranting about how much they hate it, its a very bizarre situation
i mean, i think the LG Arena is just another in a long line of LG crap that will be irrelevant and redundant in less than 12 months, but i couldnt care less about it or anyone that owns one, let alone hate it with as much passion as these iphone haters do
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anonymuser
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On 2009-04-02 12:18:57, NoKia wrote:
i mean, i think the LG Arena is just another in a long line of LG crap that will be irrelevant and redundant in less than 12 months, but i couldnt care less about it or anyone that owns one, let alone hate it with as much passion as these iphone haters do
Exactly.
Chances of there being a thread next year entitled "Why is the LG Arena More Relevant Than Others " = 0%.
Chances of me even remembering what the LG Arena was or caring less about it = even less.
Chances of the iPhone and/or its successor still causing a stir = pretty damn high.
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SloopJohnB
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The iphone did everything it sayed in the box when I bought it plus a bunch a new things. I was happy when I bought my first iPhone and I'm even happier now with the 3G. I'll probably be even happier with os3 or even os4 lol. See my point? Everybody has different needs and priorities. I tryed to explain that to you before. We bought iPhones beacuse of all the benefits it would bring to our files and we were totally aware of its capabilities. We don't expect os updates to add features, apple does it for free to maintain momentum in the platform, but we are already happy with our phones. You can spit out all you want about the features you value or like but in the end they are just features YOU like and guess what? I'm not you.
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goldenface
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On 2009-04-02 12:45:47, Boinng wrote:
Chances of the iPhone and/or its successor still causing a stir = pretty damn high.
Oh, come on!
Its handy but thats it. Horses for Courses. What frightens people is that they may turn into "one of them", when they get one.
iPhone is great but no matter which way you look at it, waiting for years, or god knows how many months, for an upgrade which will give you the ability to send a simple MMS? Or short video? Unless you have a second phone to send a picture with, to go with your second video camera. Or unless everyone you wanna send a picture to, all have an email address, is a bit much to ask.
Lord knows, does every iPhone user go out their way to get the latest update to their OS? Probably not.
My sister's boyfriend has got one and I sent him pictures, after her recent visit, (not seen her for two years or more), not knowing he had an iPhone - never received them.
If all my friends had an iPhone then I'd probably never be able to send them instantaneous pictures of anything that happens on a weekend (which is probably a wise move anyway.  )
iPhone is fantastic for its flexibility but people need more.
Calls, Texts, Still Cam shots, Browsing, Video, MMS, eMail, are probably what people expect from a phone they have forked out a lot of money for. The iPhone falls down in certain areas however, like Bhavv says any other phone can do all of these.
Apple have done great promoting the iPhone, and its a fantastic device, but its just not for all.
Just my tuppence'th in this pissing contest.
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masseur
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@goldenface, but you have been able to send mms, video and the other things you mention from very early on although yes, you do need to jailbreak. but its been a simple process to do that for a very long time, and that is no less than people do elsewhere, for example on UIQ 3 to gain access to the protected areas, so thats nothing new either
also, not receiving an mms is not the fault of the iphone, its the networks fault. if a device is not capable of receiving mms the network is supposed to send yo a link to a web page to view the mms.
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Barachus
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On 2009-04-02 14:13:30, masseur wrote:
@goldenface, but you have been able to send mms, video and the other things you mention from very early on although yes, you do need to jailbreak. but its been a simple process to do that for a very long time, and that is no less than people do elsewhere, for example on UIQ 3 to gain access to the protected areas, so thats nothing new either
i am sure they all know this, its been said countless times that we have have always been able to overcome these so called 'limitations' from the very launch of iphone 3g, it just suits their argument to pretend not to see it | |
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