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The first REAL iPhone Reviews start appearing. |
mib1800
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jools
I tell why Iphone is all hype and no substance.
We know from hardware specs it is just run-of-the-mill. There is no debate needed here. So the "euphoria" cannot be caused by this factor.
So we are just left with the UI and the big tap-screen. UI has been touted by Apple that it is easy and intuitive. We know as a fact that iphone cannot do much except for making calls/sms, taking/viewing photo, playing music and surfing the web. Let's eliminate this one by one in reverse order.
1. Surfing web (incl. 3rd "widget) - Iphone UI seldom comes into play as the interaction is with web-pages. Strike one.
2. Playing music - How much you use the UI to enjoy music? Just a few button presses. How much "easier" can iphone UI make it? Not much I think. Strike 2.
3. View/Taking photo. Camera ui/ops looks similar to those implemented in the newer n-series and SE k800. So iphone did the copying? Strike 3.
4. Making calls/sms. You need up to 8 taps to make a call unlike 1-2 button press in other phone. Is this "a revolutionary in ease-of-use UI"? Far from it. Strike 4....(well correctly speaking iphone UI is out after 3 strikes)
Well, you have it. Iphone is ALL HYPE and NO SUBSTANCE.
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oneofthose
Joined: Mar 10, 2007
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like the preview @ pcworld.com (or whatever their url is) - blaming "fanboys" for the undeserved hype 
familiarity breeds contempt ?
naah 
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Jools
Joined: May 21, 2003
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For all those people doubting that you can change the SIM, here's the instructions on how to do exactly that:
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SloopJohnB
Joined: Oct 28, 2004
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From: the blue planet
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mib1800,
Lets analyse those 4 points again:
1. Surfing Web: iPhone´s got the best browser ever on a phone, the most complete one in terms oh html, fonts, graphics, etc, and it also syncs easily with your pc bookmarks. You can browse a webpage by tapping, zooming and moving your finger, and also move through different pages like that. That makes up for the best ´surfing web´ experience on a phone. Don´t say its ui ´seldom´ comes into play, thats ignorant. STRIKE ONE.
2. Music: U can browse through all your songs and videos by just ´flicking´ your finger. You can search albuns through ´cover flow´ (animated flow of album covers). You can change your ´ipod´ shortcuts´just by dragging new shortcuts on to the main bar´. It syncs with iTunes which its really easy and stressfree to use, not to mention all the podcasts (audio and video) u can get with it. iPhone´s interface DOES make it easier and more friendly, together with iTunes. Thats MUCH better than ANY ´pc transfer suite´ out there for other phones and iphone´s ´media player´ also looks better and works better. STRIKE TWO.
3. Viewing photos with an iphone is also a unique experience because the screen is said to be very big, dense and bright. U can change photos by moving your finger and u can zoom in by ´pinching out´ the picture. The phone´s got sensors to adjust to screen when you move the phone. IMO thats pretty much better than any mobilephotoviewer out there. STRIKE THREE
4. 8 taps to make a call? WTF? Hit the phone button, 'flick 'through your contacts (looks very responsive and easy), hit a contact, press his/her number, done. Thats 4 taps, not 8. One could say there r phones that require less taps but u can also use the ´favorites´ on iphone´s menu to speed it up. iPhone handles sms as ichat conversations which seems to me as a great idea, being able to see the entire conversation instead of just one message. Thats just one example of how the iphone´s interface can make a difference. STRIKE FOUR
I´m not saying the iphone is perfect, its does have its flaws just like any other phone but to go against it like that without really knowing the product doesn´t make sense. |
QVGA
Joined: May 23, 2006
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From: Pakistan
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@sloopjhon
i read in a review it takes 6 taps to dial a number, which is ridiculous.
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maggflodd
Joined: Apr 20, 2006
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On 2007-06-29 08:56:59, JoolsG4 wrote:
For all those people doubting that you can change the SIM, here's the instructions on how to do exactly that:
is the paperclip supplied in the box (iClip?) 
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Jools
Joined: May 21, 2003
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No, I think that Apple's selling them as an optional extra for $49.99
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Superluminova
Joined: Feb 24, 2002
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On 2007-06-29 11:03:05, JoolsG4 wrote:
No, I think that Apple's selling them as an optional extra for $49.99
Oh an Apple branded paper clip! I'll have to get one of those and at $49.99 its a total bargin!
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Dogmann
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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From: London England
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@SloopJohnB
The browser claim has already been proved to be nothing more than an Apple boast as S60 3rd Edition has had the Safari based browser for a long time already and does all that. As for Bookmarks again on my S60 3rd Edition device i have Mobile Bookmarks that appear in my IE favourites and all i have to do is copy the Bookmarks i want Mobile to that folder and guess what they appear on my devices as i certainly don't want all my book marks on my mobile device. The same goes for pictures i want to look at my pictures or show them to someone and going from thumbnails to full screen is all the functionality i need and i would imagine so would most. What do you really need all those zoom functions for? really it's just a gimmick and i just don't see it as being a big deal.
Not everyone either uses iTunes or wants to and transferring my albums to my device again is simple and quick as is adding Album Art and Podcasts both Video and Audio so again nothing unique or wonderful here either just great marketing. Also saying it looks better and works better is firstly subjective to each persons perception and as no one has seen it working yet merely guess work.
Making calls should be that easy and the sms feature needs to be supported at both ends and by both Networks so who knows how reliable this will actually be in reality.
Now having said that if you already use iTunes and a Mac this is obviously going to be a logical addition for you but it does have severely limited functionality and is missing the ability to add further 3rd party apps one of the biggest features of a smart phone IMO. I really think it is just a very clever iPod with added functionality for those that are happy with what it offers great. But a non removable battery and a few other missing abilities mean it will not suit all. But i have no doubt it will sell very well indeed as plenty of people will want one i just don't see it as this great revolutionary product and it certainly isn't 5 years ahead of everything else not even close.
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batesie
Joined: Feb 13, 2004
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From: London, UK
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(Ok so the original thread got locked so will eventually disappear....)
The BBC gets thousands of votes an hour so it will be good to follow this one...
Its Plain And Simple! The iPhone specs are out, and weve seen the pics! so we can ALL answer this question....
BBC VOTE - Does the iPhone justify the hype?
1221 votes cast now
Yes - 30.71%
No - 69.29%
looks like most people so far can see through the hype and look at the facts! maybe were not as easy to brainwash as the americans???
vote here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm |
Superluminova
Joined: Feb 24, 2002
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How can you personally judge something you haven't used?
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lastikcizme
Joined: Oct 05, 2006
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From: Turkiye
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Sorry if i missed it mentioned somewhere, but, what is the screen resolution on iPhone? |
masseur
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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From: Sydney, London
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from the iphone specs page
Display
3.5-inch (diagonal) widescreen multi-touch display
480-by-320-pixel resolution at 160 dpi
Support for display of multiple languages and characters simultaneously
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Jools
Joined: May 21, 2003
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Yet more inaccurate information being posted as 'facts'.
Please, if you're going to post here, at least back-up your claims with links to the source of your so-called 'facts'.
The browser claim has already been proved to be nothing more than an Apple boast
Show us this proof.
the sms feature needs to be supported at both ends and by both Networks
No, it doesn't. You are just 100% wrong. SMS does not require any additional different support from the network. Other phones in the past have had SMS's displayed in an Instant Messaging format. Nothing new.
The Visual Voicemail feature does need network support however.
Not everyone either uses iTunes
Everyone who uses an iPod does - and the iPhone is basically an iPod, and is likely to appeal to current and potential iPod purchasers.
8 (or 6) taps to make a call
Actually if you watch the videos, you can see it takes as little as 3 taps:
1) Tap the phone icon
2) Tap the contacts name
3) Tap the number to call
You may need to scroll through your list of contacts in-between taps 2 and 3
Compare that to the number of button presses on my Sony Ericsson W610, K510, K800 etc.
1) Enter phonebook via shortcut (if set-up)
2) Press down at least once to reach the contact
3) Press call to dial contacts default number
You may need to press down any number of times between presses 2 and 3 to reach the contact you want.
So that's a minimum of 3, but more likely many more to reach a specific contact.
Or, as the phone is set-up by default...
1) Press 'Menu' to enter main menu
2) Press Down to highlight Contact icon
3) Press Select to enter phone book
4) Press Down (any number of times) to highlight a contact. Or press a number key (up to 3 times) to jump to first contact starting with a particular letter
5) Press Right (up to 4 times) to select a non-default number
6) Press Call
So thats a minimum of 6 button presses, or 10 or more to call a specific contacts non-default number.
(Both the iPhone and SE phones have shortcuts (quickdial etc.) too, but this is the default way to dial.)
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lastikcizme
Joined: Oct 05, 2006
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From: Turkiye
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Oh, thanks masseur! 160 dpi, i wonder how it compares to other high-res phones out there. I'll check it out and post my findings..
@Everyone else, cool down people, let's just wait and see.
It seems iPhone has its advantages, the interface is cool i don't think anyone would refuse to give it a try. And the screen is huge, and it will be a pleasure to look at. But there are some other things that just suck - no mp3 ringtones, embedded battery, no vid. why leave these out?
Don't fight over marketing strategies of giant corporations please. |
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Posted: 2007-06-29 04:25
