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iksplusipsilon
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Posted: 2008-04-20 01:02
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[ This Message was edited by: theos on 2008-04-20 00:10 ]
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Posted: 2008-04-20 01:07
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On 2008-04-20 01:02:02, theos wrote:
, so i would prefer a X1 with no camera at all over X1 with camera that is there just for the sake of it.

No... No, you wouldn't.
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Posted: 2008-04-20 01:11
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On 2008-04-19 23:02:25, dr.W wrote:

How do we know that one of those panels won't be a walkman panel.


We won't... Because those panels are user customizable... They are just "shortcuts", or like holding "alt+tab" in Windows... If you never gonna use the walkman, then there's no use having the mediaplayer open, using one of the panelslots for it... You use the panels as shortcut to your nine most used programs... Turn on the phone, and those nine program will start, and you don't have any delay while switching between them...
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Posted: 2008-04-20 01:14
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actually i would ... 'though 3 MP would be enough if the quality was not compromised over some ... I don't know what .... but we all know that it's not going to happen
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Posted: 2008-04-20 01:15
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The X1 is "XPERIA" branded, people!
'nuff said.
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Posted: 2008-04-20 01:48
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Mediocre parts will just spoil the experience


There is nothing mediocre about the X1.
why don't you wait for it to be released before slaughtering it.Has it become fashionable to have a go at SE at all cost and at whatever they release?
Those who are not satisfied with their products can move elsewhere.
It doesn't make sense moaning about everything and yet buying their products.
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Posted: 2008-04-20 01:55
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Just wondered if anyone has info when the next big SE announcement will be? My k850 is in need of an upgrade, preferably the k series or w series, so long as its candybar.
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On 2008-04-20 01:48:48, chuksy wrote:

Mediocre parts will just spoil the experience


There is nothing mediocre about the X1.
why don't you wait for it to be released before slaughtering it.Has it become fashionable to have a go at SE at all cost and at whatever they release?
Those who are not satisfied with their products can move elsewhere.
It doesn't make sense moaning about everything and yet buying their products.





camera ? no lens cover ?

and I am "moaning" just beacuse I would like to buy their products in the future too, and not because I am on the mission to put them down anyway possible ...

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Posted: 2008-04-20 05:45
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On 2008-04-20 01:02:17, _vAmpiRe_ wrote:

On 2008-04-20 00:43:27, chuksy wrote:

On 2008-04-20 00:30:12, theos wrote:
@ dr. W
"...I will trade a couple of megapixels for a QWERTY keyboard and touch screen any day."



Dont be fooled by megapixels. Megapixels dont make good cameras,If you want a top class camera,then i suggest you go buy one.I'd rather pick an X1 than an N95

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Spot on!!


Hell no ... WAY WAY OFF>!

I'll tell you why. We ALL though that very SAME thing about SE's legendary 2MP +LED + AF from the K750i when it was put into the P990i. Although it takes GOOD pictures, it didn't compare. Why? The camera & LED went from platform phone designed from the ground UP to flaunt it. The Symbian OS Core & UIQ was not "designed" that way from the ground up.

Now ... have any of you used a WM Profesional device's camera?! Seriously? Even the TYTN II pales in comparison to STOCK - original cam driver - K750i photos! EVERY single WM smartphone or Professional device's pics SUCK to a normal platform phone. Just take repetitive pics and compare. I'll even pit the K800i's pictures against the following: TyTn, TyTn II, Moto Q9h/c, HTC Touch, or any HTC including that lovely non sliding non keyboard 2MP+LED+AF model that O2 carried up till last year and was replaced by the Atom v.x model.

My point is that the WM platform was not designed to take pictures from the core ... its a work in progress with add ons to the software stack. UNLESS SE does something specific in this department, that 3.2MP cam won't make much a difference in quality compared to the TyTn II. SE has mentioned nothing of the camera other than specs ... maybe its one of the reasons for such a long delay or a new production facility to manufacture the X1. I cannot pass judgement either way but WM as an OS has its Dis/Advantages in differing areas just like UIQ or S60 in other areas.
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Posted: 2008-04-20 08:03
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@Prom1: Have you seen the X1's camera interface? Its the Cyber-shot styled interface similar to that seen in the G900. Going on the fact that they have worked on the interface and not used whatever stock camera interface WM may come with , that tells me it's pretty likely they've worked on the camera hardware and drivers to have a pretty decent offering.

Even though SE aren't known for having the best cameras anymore, I don't think they'd accept putting such a shocking camera in as some other WM devices. They at least make decent cameras for their phones, so we can expect at least a decent camera in the X1 on my opinion.
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isn't known for good cameras anymore? i beg to disagree mate.

one mistake of (k850) doesn't erase the fact that k700, k750 and k800 revolutionized mobile imaging.

is still and will be the best cameraphone maker.
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Posted: 2008-04-20 08:25
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I suppose so Crossmatched. I was basing my opinion solely on the 5MP K850i blunder. I guess going on their experience before that phone, we can expect better from them with the next Cyber-shots. Which is another reason to expect the X1 to have a good camera!
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i really do hope starts to bring back the CCD sensors! (s700 was a great cameraphone) and employ qualitative glass lenses.
its high time that CYBERSHOT branding live up to its legacy
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Posted: 2008-04-20 08:31
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they should just whack the k800 camera module on the x1.
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Posted: 2008-04-20 08:33
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Most high-quality cameras usually come from SE.

VGA: K700
1.3mp: S700
2mp: K750 and it's gang members
3mp: K800, C702 and the rest
-But the usual history of very good SE reputation on the imaging geeks had changed when K850 embarrases the SE camera lineup. bastard K850!

If only SE would make a true S700 successor packed with CCD(again) and AF...
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