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Tigershark42
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They have alot of people to cater for OTHER than you, you know. Although Im annoyed that I fall into a category which they STILL havent catered for, all sources indicate that 10 odd UIQ phones are coming. I cant say there will be a single perfect one among them, but your comment, bav, is completely wrong. Problem is, we get tired of waiting. | |
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fumi_moon
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Very tired of waiting, and again the whole "there is not good phone/paris/P5i, it's all just a joke from SE" feeling I got 3-4 monhts ago is coming again.
I hope for May to be a good month when is comes to high-end phones.
Current mobilephone: P1i and my now old K800i, and before that W800i, V800i, Z600i, and T310. Waiting for X10. |
doministry
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On 2008-04-19 16:30:19, makbil wrote:
On 2008-04-19 15:14:45, doministry wrote:
But the X1/TyTn2 form factor is not so ergonomic considering you have to turn this to write. Plus Windows.
True. In general I don't find devices that have the answer/reject button at the very bottom of the device very ergonomic. The P990 is still my favorite but assuming SE will discontinue that form factor, my next preference would be something like X1/ Tytn 2 which would pretty much limit one handed use.
Yes but I'm not going to jump to Windows Mobile. And I'd prefer Paris form, it's definately more one handed. |
bavlondon2
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On 2008-04-19 17:27:25, Tigershark42 wrote:
They have alot of people to cater for OTHER than you, you know. Although Im annoyed that I fall into a category which they STILL havent catered for, all sources indicate that 10 odd UIQ phones are coming. I cant say there will be a single perfect one among them, but your comment, bav, is completely wrong. Problem is, we get tired of waiting.
No we get tired of waiting and then when the product comes its never as good as the pre release hype suggets. This forum over hypes phones so much at times. Take the K850 for example. Sofia this and that, its gonna kick the n95 into check ect.....probably the most problomatic phone SE have released to date.
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badassmam
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G700, G900 and Beibei are pretty much the same so that leaves 7 UIQ devices. Right now I'm looking for something new in terms of innovation. A lot of people say that the hardware makes a difference but if Paris and co. are on UIQ 3.3 how can we tell. Smooth processing yes but to me Paris and G series are too similar, SE is just changing the little details which is why Beibei exists (scroll wheel instead of a d-pad). I'm going to give this whole batch a miss until UIQ 4 comes out and the devices that come with it. Only then will we see the true performance of the hardware when there is something challenging to run i.e. G700 and Paris are supposedly running the same software but Paris is more high end and more expensive (don't say that the rocker qwerty is over £100 alone). Sounds a bit wishy washy to me. |
Tigershark42
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Im very tempted by rumours of
a) UIQ 4,
b) Windows Mobile 7 (The idea of full Office 07 on a frikkin mobile, you tell me thats not awesome!),
c) Paris
d) any other of the 6 unknown UIQ devices which may appeal to me.
The last two are heavily influenced by the fact that Ive already been waiting around a year as it is for an ultimate superphone to replace my K700, and am getting fed up. Still, the first two could be very, very much worth the wait. So, to me its not a case of if, but when. I think if I can hold on till this time in 2009, something really INNOVATIVE will come along. Theres plenty of scope for it, be it a new model, or a new OS/UI. I wish I knew where the roadmap will take all this in a years time. |
makbil
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On 2008-04-19 17:43:30, doministry wrote:
Yes but I'm not going to jump to Windows Mobile. And I'd prefer Paris form, it's definately more one handed.
I agree, I would prefer to stay with Symbian/UIQ too. However, if the P1 style keyboard is the only option, I may as well go for an HTC/X1 style full keyboard.
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bavlondon2
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On 2008-04-19 18:59:08, Tigershark42 wrote:
Im very tempted by rumours of
a) UIQ 4,
b) Windows Mobile 7 (The idea of full Office 07 on a frikkin mobile, you tell me thats not awesome!),
c) Paris
d) any other of the 6 unknown UIQ devices which may appeal to me.
The last two are heavily influenced by the fact that Ive already been waiting around a year as it is for an ultimate superphone to replace my K700, and am getting fed up. Still, the first two could be very, very much worth the wait. So, to me its not a case of if, but when. I think if I can hold on till this time in 2009, something really INNOVATIVE will come along. Theres plenty of scope for it, be it a new model, or a new OS/UI. I wish I knew where the roadmap will take all this in a years time.
You wont see any UIQ device actually released until 2009. Same goes for WM7.
I will reserve my thoughts on Paris only once I have seen confirmation that its running on OMAP 3rd gen chipset otherwise its probably just another SE UIQ mess. Not to mention they are terrible at making touch buttons.
As for the other UIQ4 devices well none that we have seen so far even make me bink an eyelid.
Somehow I dont think this will be SEs year. They need a bestseller like the K800. Hopefully Shiho but i wont hold my breath after the Sofia/K850 fiasco.
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Tigershark42
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I begin to wonder whether I should get the G900 in the meantime, as its not as expensive, and then thatll last me until something really astonishing surfaces in the next 2 years. |
bavlondon2
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On 2008-04-19 19:21:48, Tigershark42 wrote:
I begin to wonder whether I should get the G900 in the meantime, as its not as expensive, and then thatll last me until something really astonishing surfaces in the next 2 years.
You may aswell wait or if you have to get something now get the P1. Cam may be 3.2mp but it beats G900 in all if not most JBenchmark tests.
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Supa_Fly
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On 2008-04-19 18:59:08, Tigershark42 wrote:
Im very tempted by rumours of
a) UIQ 4,
b) Windows Mobile 7 (The idea of full Office 07 on a frikkin mobile, you tell me thats not awesome!),
c) Paris
d) any other of the 6 unknown UIQ devices which may appeal to me.
The last two are heavily influenced by the fact that Ive already been waiting around a year as it is for an ultimate superphone to replace my K700, and am getting fed up. Still, the first two could be very, very much worth the wait. So, to me its not a case of if, but when. I think if I can hold on till this time in 2009, something really INNOVATIVE will come along. Theres plenty of scope for it, be it a new model, or a new OS/UI. I wish I knew where the roadmap will take all this in a years time.
WM7 with FULL Office?! Haha ... I'll believe it when I test a production unit. Think about it ... Office 2003 is over 600MB of data thats not for a WM device but a UMPC. I doubt you'll be able to do macros (even with SQL Lite using db's within), or high-end formulae in Excel or that MS Access will debut. I think you meant full Edit, Create, Modify that is SIMILAR to the desktop; but not full Office within a PPC or WM Smartphone device.
PS: Edit & Create Word/Excel documents is already available on newer devices.
Bring on UIQ robust memory management, improved applications (hopefully that can share data with the OS subsystem & hardware components, and with other software & core apps), and more 3rd party supported applications to debut giving us NEW functionality or daily usage of these phones.
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Tigershark42
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Prom1, the edit function for documents on UIQ is pathetic, it cant read or save formatting done on the PC.
And yes, the inclusion of office 07 was one of numerous great concept ideas for WM7. I obviously dont know whether it will be there in the final version, but itll sure as hell pwn quickoffice. Quickoffice is a gimmick for children, you cant really get much work done on it IMO. Its pretty much just good for reading simple files.
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doministry
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On 2008-04-19 19:33:25, Tigershark42 wrote:
Prom1, the edit function for documents on UIQ is pathetic, it cant read or save formatting done on the PC.
??? That's actually not true...
The most advanced features are not there, but DocsToGo allows to do really advanced formatting.
And Quickoffice 4.0 gives the real layout view.
Basically I can do what I need on my P990,and not only simple files.
It's very functional in fact, one of the basic smartphone function.
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tonif430
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+1 with you Doministry 
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Xajel
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On 2008-04-19 19:27:38, bavlondon2 wrote:
On 2008-04-19 19:21:48, Tigershark42 wrote:
I begin to wonder whether I should get the G900 in the meantime, as its not as expensive, and then thatll last me until something really astonishing surfaces in the next 2 years.
You may aswell wait or if you have to get something now get the P1. Cam may be 3.2mp but it beats G900 in all if not most JBenchmark tests.
regardless of the JBenchmarks, adopters and testers of G900/G700 said that they are faster than P1/W960, in Eldar's G900 review he said that it's all about Software optimization,  did a great job of optimization in G700/G900 as they didn't want slower UI with the cheaper hardware on Gxxx, so they optimized the software...
the diffrences in JBenchmark is notisable, but in real life you wont notice that much as JBenchmark is synthetic not a real word, and synthetic tries to be very tied in showing differences in performance and for that it uses every single function/API available, but real world application don't only some of the available functions/API.
it's a role, trusting the synthetic benchmarks increases when specialized in specific use, but no synthetic benchmark is totally specialized, yes we have 3D, 2D, CPU, etc... but even at this level of specific use it's still far away from real world applications, for example in computer world you have 3D Mark as synthetic benchmark for 3D performance, but if you went to the real world games, you will see a lot of diffrences between them as each game has it's own way of dealing with 3D API's and calling/using functions, 3D Mark tries to give you an overall numbering by simulating real world games but it can't, yes it's a very good way of knowing the performance of any GPU/VGA but you can't put it alone, some games will score better in a hardware that get's lower in 3D Mark... the same goes in Mobiel phones, only testing the phone in real life will give you the performance... JBenchmarks ad other's are good for overall/firstlook specially when numebrs are close
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Posted: 2008-04-19 17:27
So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD 
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