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slattery69
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Posted: 2005-07-11 09:49
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thats fine i still think its the members who are using the thread first and foremost who should check there own behaviour. it tends to be the same few who lose the ablity to rational debate anyway.
i do accept that it must be tough moderarting such topic as well as everything else on a busy day on the board when posts can be flying in left right and centre
vanquish
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Posted: 2005-07-11 10:11
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I think they should be banned.

@axxxr

You are such an idiot sometimes. This was a delicate thread and you come in saying where is your se-nse of humour? Oh haha. And then you turn all serious, as if you know it all.

Sorry, but a long time ago i thought you were a great guy. And i can say from experience because of these stupid 'freedom of speech' religious and political threads i went off you. you insulted a close esato member friend of mine, and she was not the kind of person that would do something to get an insult like that, and i thought, this guy is crazy. He is obsessed with politics and having his way and making sure his opinions are shown.

The reason why there is no point in these threads is because a) No-one ever backs down and b) this is a mobile phone forum discussion

You also ruin threads (not you axxxr, im not picking on you, others to) by turning it all political. On se-nse the thread about the london bombings was full of sympathies and a light hearted discussion about what happened. The one on esato is about members arguing in terrorism and islam are connected! I mean come on! Can we not just use our own brains to work out if something political or religious is getting out of hand. I have to agree with scotsboyuk. I am sorry, but this is not a discussion it is plain fact.

Esato is not about freedom of speech, it is about mobile phones. Sure, you can have a laugh but not at the expense of its primary function which can be destroyed if members fall out over political issues etc. etc.

Please! Just grow up all of you. [addsig]
methylated_spirit
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Posted: 2005-07-11 10:14
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I tend to stay away from political threads, generally, its not my bag to be honest. But, I think political threads should stand. If we stop these threads because they are "non-mobile" what about threads like "on the couch with scotsboyuk" and "miss copperfields chat about anything thread" and, of course, practically ALL my threads! If you start saying "you cant create political threads, its a mobile site" then surely, all the other non-mobile related topics have to go too? I know you are talking about flame wars, people arguing, etc, which a lot of these other threads i've mentioned aren't conducive to, but, its a community forum, as has been mentioned a few times, and, whether you are of a political bent or not, as part of the esato community, you have to respect that other members are. Of course, these threads do have a tendency to escalate into full scale vitriolic hatred at times, but cutting them out of esato? I reckon thats maybe a little drastic. Esato is a rich place, with intelligent, open minded people from across the world, and its good to hear these peoples opinions on a wide variety of topics.
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absinthebri
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Posted: 2005-07-11 10:16
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On 2005-07-11 10:11:21, vanquish wrote:

Please! Just grow up all of you.




Growing up starts with accepting that the world exists and that there are causes and effects.
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absinthebri
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Posted: 2005-07-11 10:20
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On 2005-07-11 10:14:12, methylated_spirit wrote:
I tend to stay away from political threads, generally, its not my bag to be honest. But, I think political threads should stand. If we stop these threads because they are "non-mobile" what about threads like "on the couch with scotsboyuk" and "miss copperfields chat about anything thread" and, of course, practically ALL my threads! If you start saying "you cant create political threads, its a mobile site" then surely, all the other non-mobile related topics have to go too? I know you are talking about flame wars, people arguing, etc, which a lot of these other threads i've mentioned aren't conducive to, but, its a community forum, as has been mentioned a few times, and, whether you are of a political bent or not, as part of the esato community, you have to respect that other members are. Of course, these threads do have a tendency to escalate into full scale vitriolic hatred at times, but cutting them out of esato? I reckon thats maybe a little drastic. Esato is a rich place, with intelligent, open minded people from across the world, and its good to hear these peoples opinions on a wide variety of topics.





Bri agrees with a Meths post 100%.

Is this a first???


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methylated_spirit
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Posted: 2005-07-11 10:24
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Quite possibly!
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vanquish
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Posted: 2005-07-11 10:27
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On 2005-07-11 10:16:08, absinthebri wrote:
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On 2005-07-11 10:11:21, vanquish wrote:

Please! Just grow up all of you.




Growing up starts with accepting that the world exists and that there are causes and effects.





And knowing what to start, what to finish, when to start and when to finish.

And knowing that this is a mobile phone forum not a political/religious forum! [addsig]
absinthebri
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Posted: 2005-07-11 10:33
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On 2005-07-11 10:27:28, vanquish wrote:
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On 2005-07-11 10:16:08, absinthebri wrote:
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On 2005-07-11 10:11:21, vanquish wrote:

Please! Just grow up all of you.




Growing up starts with accepting that the world exists and that there are causes and effects.





And knowing what to start, what to finish, when to start and when to finish.

And knowing that this is a mobile phone forum not a political/religious forum!




So go and discuss mobile phones.

We all have views on many things.
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vanquish
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Posted: 2005-07-11 10:40
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Excuse me? I think you were the one in favour of political/religious threads. How can we dicuss those if people are falling out over politics

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Sammy_boy
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Posted: 2005-07-11 10:55
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I don't think I'm in favour of totally banning political/religious threads, just some of the silliness that goes on in them. At the time of writing the London bombings thread was getting a bit silly and personal, that's what I don't want to see. Perhaps when it gets to that stage for PM'ed warnings to be send and posts deleted, or perhaps the thread locked.

I'm for intelligent debate, but not mud slinging and 'my religions better than yours' or 'all muslims are terrorists or sympathise with them' and other such swinging, discriminatory comments.
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke

vanquish
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Posted: 2005-07-11 10:59
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Well i dont exactly mean banned. but i mean kept under control.
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carkitter
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Posted: 2005-07-11 12:26
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Speaking of being under control...

Two moderators have given thier views and also said how much hard work these topics are for them.
I think we should all accept these views and not keep going over old ground already covered previously.
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haynesycop
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Posted: 2005-07-11 12:31
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People need to respect people opinions for these type of threads to work

If people can do this without causing arguments then these threads may be able to work

axxxr
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Posted: 2005-07-11 12:33
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On 2005-07-11 10:11:21, vanquish wrote:

@axxxr

You are such an idiot sometimes. This was a delicate thread and you come in saying where is your se-nse of humour? Oh haha. And then you turn all serious, as if you know it all.

Sorry, but a long time ago i thought you were a great guy. And i can say from experience because of these stupid 'freedom of speech' religious and political threads i went off you. you insulted a close esato member friend of mine, and she was not the kind of person that would do something to get an insult like that, and i thought, this guy is crazy. He is obsessed with politics and having his way and making sure his opinions are shown.




Excuse me but i think you have issues with that you need to discuss with me in private and not in a open forum.and I think you need to think twice about calling me an idiot because i won't accept that kind of language towards me...I hope thats clear.

If you don't like my style and what i say or you have been, so to say "PUT OFF BY ME" then so be it,does it look like i really care.

I think the real problem you have with me is your so close friend issue,you don't know the whole story behind that so don't even go there...If i like political issues and like posting topics regarding this subject then its my choice...thats just tough mate i will post what i like...I may not like what you choose to post but i never object to it....why don't you just carry on with your little back stabbing party back on se-nse with your pack of mates that don't like me ( Or shall i reveal to everyone why you and your gang really don't like me )...and just to let you know if you have any further problems you wish to discuss with me then please by all means PM me so we can sort things out.


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vanquish
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Posted: 2005-07-11 13:13
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Well get more moderators then.

@axxxr

why did i call you an idiot? look back at your first post in this thread.

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