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mr beeb
Joined: Jul 29, 2002
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MHedges
At last some common sense prevails! I didn't like the tone of Bengal's reply when all I did was express "surprise" that there was beta testing taking place. I did not "imply" or "accuse" him of lying. I'm sorry he took it that may. My surprise was based on the email I'd received from Lars a few weeks earlier saying there were no plans to beta test.
I too am sorry for some of the inflammatory language I've used. I just felt outnumbered by all the messages that were flying my way from you, Bengal et al.
All that said, I'm sure its entertained readers because the number of hits to this thread is incredible. It's also done wonders for publicing the Bluespoon Digital. I think Nextlink should award us all a freebie! |
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mrockr
Joined: Jul 03, 2002
Posts: 36
From: UK Wales
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i think Bluespoon & L8shop will be glad to see that back of u 
been reading all ur posts over the last couple of days (its taken me that long) u need help, find somethin else to do! like helping a charity or washing ur hair.
feel sorry for any shop thats gets an order from u, if the wind is blowing in the wrong direction at the time of ur order im sure u will be taking them to court!
just my opinion
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dupasquier
Joined: May 07, 2002
Posts: 50
From: New York
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mrockr, I couldn't agree more with you! |
3vw
Joined: May 19, 2003
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On 2003-05-20 22:05:00, mrockr wrote:
sorry no offence intended there, u have spent a great deal of time defending urself and ur posts good work im sure ur fingers are worn out now.
This made me think of a previous post of mr beeb's
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On 2002-07-29 19:47:00, mr beeb wrote:
I feel cheated too. I am interested in this technology because I have a severe disability, Muscular Dystrophy, which means my muscles, including my arms, are largely paralysed. I thought these headsets would be a great help in enabling me to make and receive phone calls.
However, I have been greatly disappointed to discover that to answer calls with models of headset such as the Nokia Wireless Headset HDW-1, and the Ericsson HBH 30 Bluetooth Headset (and all others, Plantronics etc) one has to be able to raise ones hand to the "answer" button on the headset. This I am physically unable to do and therefore regrettably these headsets are of no use to me. Surely it wouldn't be difficult to design (or modify) the mobile phone and/or headset so calls can be answered by voice without having to physically press the answer button on the headset? Or why can't you press the answer button on the phone to wake the headset, eliminating the need to raise your arm to press the button on the headset? Sounds simple doesn't it? But why have manufacturers not thought of it? And when people like me have raised it with them why has there has been a deafening silence?
I have tried contacting the Customer Services Departments at all the major mobile phone manufacturers about this issue and got nowhere, (I was hoping to speak to a scientist or engineer in R & D on the bluetooth side). In contrast, when one of my email enquiries was picked up by someone at Motorola in the USA the response was very different. Answers to the sort of problem I have encountered can be found in the USA where they consider the needs of disabled customers much more. You just have to log onto the Motorola USA website and see there is a whole section explaining the various ways their products can help disabled people. There is no mention of disabled customers on the UK website of Motorola or any of the other manufacturers. Alas, I can't use the solution Motorola in the USA have because of compatibility and availability issues in Europe.
The Americans have had the Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA) since 1990 and that has certainly raised awareness and improved access to technology. In the UK we have had the Disability Discrimination Act since 1995 but it appears to have done little to encourage companies and others to understand more and respond more to the needs of consumers with disabilities.
It's not just about bluetooth headsets. I'm sure there are many other disabled people in a similar position to me; unable to access the latest technology because of lack of thought or initiative by manufacturers.
It would be very helpful to me if anyone contacts on the technical side at Ericsson, Nokia etc bluetooth engineers etc?
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mr beeb
Joined: Jul 29, 2002
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3vw
Well you're a bit of a detective are you? Thought you'd have better things to do with your sad life! But if you believe all you read in cyber land you're more ignorant than you appear
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mr beeb
Joined: Jul 29, 2002
Posts: 85
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I'm not adding any more to this thread... it's run out of steam.
The cool contributors have left the stage (people like Bengal and MHedges who I respect as "rivals").
All that are left now are the carrion..... like Mrockr, and 3vw, and Dupasquier.... who pick away at the carcass of what was a riveting thread for many (based on the high number of viewings and replies).
Goodbye guys.
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pzboyz
Joined: Sep 30, 2002
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On 2002-07-29 19:47:00, mr beeb wrote:
However, I have been greatly disappointed to discover that to answer calls with models of headset such as the Nokia Wireless Headset HDW-1, and the Ericsson HBH 30 Bluetooth Headset (and all others, Plantronics etc) one has to be able to raise ones hand to the "answer" button on the headset. This I am physically unable to do and therefore regrettably these headsets are of no use to me. Surely it wouldn't be difficult to design (or modify) the mobile phone and/or headset so calls can be answered by voice without having to physically press the answer button on the headset? Or why can't you press the answer button on the phone to wake the headset, eliminating the need to raise your arm to press the button on the headset? Sounds simple doesn't it? But why have manufacturers not thought of it? And when people like me have raised it with them why has there has been a deafening silence?
It would be very helpful to me if anyone contacts on the technical side at Ericsson, Nokia etc bluetooth engineers etc?
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The good news is that the T68i, T610 and P800, will allow you to do voice answer, reject of a an incoming call. Read the manuals to find out how. This feature is independant of the headset used.
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mr beeb
Joined: Jul 29, 2002
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Thanks for the advice Pzboyz.
However, I have a T68i and a P800 and you need to be able to press the button on headset for voice control. This I can't do.
The P800 has "auto answer" which helps a little but I'd like to be able to answer calls by pressing the answer button on the P 800 (as I've been doing on the T68i for about a year). However, when you do this the sound automatically transfers to the phone - very annoying. SE are looking into it.
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dupasquier
Joined: May 07, 2002
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From: New York
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On 2003-05-22 12:23:00, mr beeb wrote:
However, I have a T68i and a P800 and you need to be able to press the button on headset for voice control. This I can't do.
The P800 has "auto answer" which helps a little but I'd like to be able to answer calls by pressing the answer button on the P 800 (as I've been doing on the T68i for about a year). However, when you do this the sound automatically transfers to the phone - very annoying. SE are looking into it.
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Use the Magic Word. |
mr beeb
Joined: Jul 29, 2002
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Haven't worked out how to do that using a bluetooth headset. Dont you still need to be able to press the button on the headset?
And doesnt Magic Word use up a lot of battery? |
pzboyz
Joined: Sep 30, 2002
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On 2003-05-22 12:23:00, mr beeb wrote:
However, I have a T68i and a P800 and you need to be able to press the button on headset for voice control. This I can't do.
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To START a new call, Yes I agree you need to press a button on the headset.
To ANSWER/REJECT an incoming call, you can do this with voice.
Also, the P800 has a speakerphone that works quite well, the 'magic word' function may allow you to start voice dial and use it in speakerphone mode. |
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Posted: 2003-05-21 08:48
