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dancingfate
Joined: Sep 25, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Jakarta, Indonesia
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Never got BROD till today, and I hope it won't happen to me.
Mine with R1EA037.
Although my K850 never produces such good photos like plankgatan's does, I still think it's agood phone, talking 'bout overall, not just camera dept.
I don't think C902 will be better than K850.
I bet it's only Shiho to beat the K850. I hope. |
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Fanofmodi
Joined: Jan 03, 2008
Posts: 191
From: Hindustan
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I read a lot of hatred threads of this phone here on esato, i didnt believe those and i went for this beauty. Its been a month since i got this phone and i absolutely love it. I never expected it to take pictures like n82, which i had before. Though its got some issues but really not bothered, hope to sort out by firmware.
Hell is empty,
All the devils are here.
K750>W800>W810>W850>J100>P900>K790>M600>K800>W880>K810>W580>K850>W890>C902. |
JaffaTB
Joined: Jan 02, 2008
Posts: 85
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On 2008-06-05 04:07:56, Tervel wrote:
Then why they hell did you get it??? This makes no sense what so ever - going out looking at a phone and saying "I hate this phone, but i like bitching more so I'll get it and bitch about it" I've gone though my share of issues with the phone but I could never say I hate it. I can say that I'm disappointed by it overall, yet I still find it to be fun to use majority of the time. Now if I could only take advantage of the speed improvements of the last two firmwares without the fear of getting another BROD, I'd be almost set.
ermmm maybe because i didn't know it was shit BEFORE i got it? i was expecting it to be just like my k800i but with a better camera, i would have been happy it it was exactly the same as the k800 but with the better camera but its a total letdown |
sniper_supra
Joined: Feb 16, 2008
Posts: 266
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This is way off the topic but could somebody tell me how to reset my blogging option with blogger.com?
I used to blog alot but now it isn't working. Instead of going to my blogspot it goes to "www." - and I know its nowhere.
Could somebody point me to the right direction please....
^_^ |
numb
Joined: Feb 07, 2005
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On 2008-06-05 04:07:56, Tervel wrote:
On 2008-06-04 20:07:45, JaffaTB wrote:
i too have hated this phone since i first got it
Then why they hell did you get it??? This makes no sense what so ever - going out looking at a phone and saying "I hate this phone, but i like bitching more so I'll get it and bitch about it" I've gone though my share of issues with the phone but I could never say I hate it. I can say that I'm disappointed by it overall, yet I still find it to be fun to use majority of the time. Now if I could only take advantage of the speed improvements of the last two firmwares without the fear of getting another BROD, I'd be almost set.
Why the hell do you think we got it ?
Propably because we have been good happy loyal SE customers for years.
Being happy with earlier phones from SE, and seing a new SE Camera Flagship phone being advertised I immediately ordered one. How the hell was I to know in advance that it would turn out to be such crap - I kinda had to own one first before I could know and before I can bitch about it. Or would you rather Id bitch about it without owning one ?
I payed $580 for this junk, and I cant return it or get my money back - all I can do is throw it in the bin and spend another $580 on a different phone
And having been through 20 or so SE phones before this one - I do feel in my right to bitch when they present me with such a device thats flawed in such serious ways.
The camera is seriously flawed with its colortint and its imagenoise/compressionartefact - and yet its announced like this great camera phone like nothing else. I have taken more than a thousand pictures with it now - desperately hoping for just 1 that would satisfy me in terms of color accuraccy, focus and imagenoice - but no it hasnt happened yet. And I took thousands with my K750 that I felt plenty satisfied with in these areas, so its not like Im putting to much expectations on the K850. I dont expect it to act like my Canon DSLR camera - all I expect is that it produce colors that look as correct as the K750 does.
To illustrate my point - heres a picture of a car which is RED in real life - not pink.
Heres the same picture with a quick simulation done in Photoshop of how the red should have been.
The difference should be obvious.
The softbuttons is such a big design flaw - I have seriously never witnessed anything more stupid in industrial design - and they make use of the phone for everyday purpose almost impossible.
Scenario: I have keylock on, the phone rings, I pick up which unlocks the keylock, while Im talking the softbuttons are activated by my cheek and the phone starts writing sms, or turns on mediaplayer or something else, I end my phonecall and the keylock turns on again automatically - but then I have to manually turn off keylock in order to bring the phone out of whatever action it had started by itself while I was talking, and bring it back to the menu, then finish by turning on keylock again. How incredibly stupid design is that ? Hell I was only trying to answer a call - I dont have time to spend nursing the phone like that every single time it rings.
on top of that the software is so immature and slow, and the softbuttons so poor to react when you actually try to use them - that its a pain to operate the phone. Beleive me you are not missing out of any speed improvements from the latest firmwares - cause there arent any.
I cant beleive anyone would still try to defend this phone - or defend the total lack of interest from SE to do anything about it. All they care about now is just putting out new phones to sell you once more.
This one is a dead horse - and it will never be ok.
Another picture / simulation of reds :
[ This Message was edited by: numb on 2008-06-05 13:58 ] |
Targett
Joined: Sep 27, 2005
Posts: 120
From: Sandy Beds
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Replacement K850 arrived 2 days ago and I still can't get it to work so sending it back to O2... Doesn't recognise SIM card and the battery is scrached to hell!!!
Not good enough O2...
This will now be the 3rd phone sending back so will be asking for something different! what do you guys recon I should get out of this list below:
1. W960i
2. K850I (black)
3. W890i
4. W910i
5. W580i
6. P1
7. W880i
8. something not SE.
What do you recon?
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Targett
Joined: Sep 27, 2005
Posts: 120
From: Sandy Beds
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O2 driving me MAD!!!! (Grrr)
Just spoke to them saying the refurb replacement K850 I recieved is faulty, asked if it was possible for a different handset to which they now say I need to have sent back 4 faulty phones when this is my 3rd!!!
I was under the impression that they replaced when your 3rd one was faulty???
can anyone else help me here, is it me going mad?! |
vortigern
Joined: Dec 10, 2007
Posts: 60
From: London
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@numb ... you're reds may be pink.. but at least you have a picture.
I decided it wasn't worth unBRODing my phone as there's no point carrying something that may turn into a brick with a blue ring at any moment.
....that was well over a month ago.
Even when it did work, I agree the pics it took were always noisy and look interpolated, and the touch buttons were annoying as they didn't always work.. and sometimes they did work but a few secs later ... so by this time you'd pressed again thinking it hadn't worked ... and then accidentally agreed to sign up to some subscription service!
It's one thing putting out a crappy phone, but not acknowledging a major floor with it is just plain wrong. |
harry20larry
Joined: Feb 18, 2008
Posts: 338
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Its funny actaually, i don't the pinkish issue, or not as least survere as you. I want to know the difference between the k850 and the k858, cause i think there might have been slight improvements that later buyers, like myself, are experiencing. I've had it since feburary, but havn't had any dust beneath the cover, the phone doesn't squeak when you hold it, the phone is fast and responsive, touch buttons work like a dream. I've had one BROD but k850 and k858 run on the same firmware so.... |
Vlad83
Joined: Feb 01, 2008
Posts: 143
From: Miami, FL U.S.
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I think the K858 is for China. Previously SE would release the xx8 models for China. Should be the same phone though... |
Tervel
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: US, TX
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numb > Since we're throwing pictures around, here's a couple: first one is from the K850, second from a Nikon D200. I picked a bunch of red objects to show:
the K850 shot indeed looks lighter on the reds but this is mostly white ballance in my opinion. I don't see the extreme pink that you are showing on yours and haven't seen it from my K850. Mine's still stuck at R1CA037 until BROD's resolved.
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Wild Child
Joined: Jan 14, 2008
Posts: 152
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Color seems to be ok on 031 also in my opinion. The red is abit brighter because of the flash in my picture but not pink.
WC
[ This Message was edited by: Wild Child on 2008-06-06 02:05 ] |
mr versatile
Joined: Mar 06, 2008
Posts: 120
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Guys today i saw that sony have launched the g900i and that was one the phone along with the c902 on the list of coming soon so i guess the c902 launched is near hopefully along with our firmware ....the g900i is in stores and selling at 529.99 us. dollars. so i really think something will happen th for us this month |
masada1971
Joined: Jun 05, 2008
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On 2008-06-05 14:38:21, numb wrote:
On 2008-06-05 04:07:56, Tervel wrote:
On 2008-06-04 20:07:45, JaffaTB wrote:
i too have hated this phone since i first got it
Then why they hell did you get it??? This makes no sense what so ever - going out looking at a phone and saying "I hate this phone, but i like bitching more so I'll get it and bitch about it" I've gone though my share of issues with the phone but I could never say I hate it. I can say that I'm disappointed by it overall, yet I still find it to be fun to use majority of the time. Now if I could only take advantage of the speed improvements of the last two firmwares without the fear of getting another BROD, I'd be almost set.
Why the hell do you think we got it ?
Propably because we have been good happy loyal SE customers for years.
Being happy with earlier phones from SE, and seing a new SE Camera Flagship phone being advertised I immediately ordered one. How the hell was I to know in advance that it would turn out to be such crap - I kinda had to own one first before I could know and before I can bitch about it. Or would you rather Id bitch about it without owning one ?
I payed $580 for this junk, and I cant return it or get my money back - all I can do is throw it in the bin and spend another $580 on a different phone
And having been through 20 or so SE phones before this one - I do feel in my right to bitch when they present me with such a device thats flawed in such serious ways.
The camera is seriously flawed with its colortint and its imagenoise/compressionartefact - and yet its announced like this great camera phone like nothing else. I have taken more than a thousand pictures with it now - desperately hoping for just 1 that would satisfy me in terms of color accuraccy, focus and imagenoice - but no it hasnt happened yet. And I took thousands with my K750 that I felt plenty satisfied with in these areas, so its not like Im putting to much expectations on the K850. I dont expect it to act like my Canon DSLR camera - all I expect is that it produce colors that look as correct as the K750 does.
To illustrate my point - heres a picture of a car which is RED in real life - not pink.
Heres the same picture with a quick simulation done in Photoshop of how the red should have been.
The difference should be obvious.
The softbuttons is such a big design flaw - I have seriously never witnessed anything more stupid in industrial design - and they make use of the phone for everyday purpose almost impossible.
Scenario: I have keylock on, the phone rings, I pick up which unlocks the keylock, while Im talking the softbuttons are activated by my cheek and the phone starts writing sms, or turns on mediaplayer or something else, I end my phonecall and the keylock turns on again automatically - but then I have to manually turn off keylock in order to bring the phone out of whatever action it had started by itself while I was talking, and bring it back to the menu, then finish by turning on keylock again. How incredibly stupid design is that ? Hell I was only trying to answer a call - I dont have time to spend nursing the phone like that every single time it rings.
on top of that the software is so immature and slow, and the softbuttons so poor to react when you actually try to use them - that its a pain to operate the phone. Beleive me you are not missing out of any speed improvements from the latest firmwares - cause there arent any.
I cant beleive anyone would still try to defend this phone - or defend the total lack of interest from SE to do anything about it. All they care about now is just putting out new phones to sell you once more.
This one is a dead horse - and it will never be ok.
Another picture / simulation of reds :
[ This Message was edited by: numb on 2008-06-05 13:58 ]
agree with you,but i wonder how some people in here like plangatan shoot so good pictures with so good and live colours and me and many others in here cannot..is like using a totally different phone... |
JiSm
Joined: Nov 08, 2007
Posts: 404
From: New Zealand
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Orange UK has R1EC001 out now? Is this a new update or just a new version of R1EA037?
"Back in the land of the long white cloud!" |
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Posted: 2008-06-05 05:15
