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badassmam
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If you look at the SE phones coming out and their target markets, you are still missing a full miltimedia device. This is probobly a Walkman but one with a touchscreen, yet to come. Any news on that since Beibei is said to be a non Walkman smartphone. Nothing really high end has been shown so far, as good a Paris is, it will be bettered very quickly since there is nothing ground-breaking.
It seems that Paris is going to be released just to replace the P1 short term while they put most of their efforts into a ultra high end replacement. So whats the point? If you know that there are around 7 new phones coming this year, who would go for Paris unless it is cheap. SE would not allow leaks of their best phone right now, normally you would save the best for the end of the year.
The SEX1 was totally hush hush because it is a new venture for SE to go into WM. Its a decent device as well and I guess it stole the show at the time. I just feel that Paris is destined to fail and get KO'd by SE themselves, they got to get the price right or it may flop. |
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On 2008-04-10 13:01:20, badassmam wrote:
If you look at the SE phones coming out and their target markets, you are still missing a full miltimedia device. This is probobly a Walkman but one with a touchscreen, yet to come. Any news on that since Beibei is said to be a non Walkman smartphone. Nothing really high end has been shown so far, as good a Paris is, it will be bettered very quickly since there is nothing ground-breaking.
It seems that Paris is going to be released just to replace the P1 short term while they put most of their efforts into a ultra high end replacement. So whats the point? If you know that there are around 7 new phones coming this year, who would go for Paris unless it is cheap. SE would not allow leaks of their best phone right now, normally you would save the best for the end of the year.
The SEX1 was totally hush hush because it is a new venture for SE to go into WM. Its a decent device as well and I guess it stole the show at the time. I just feel that Paris is destined to fail and get KO'd by SE themselves, they got to get the price right or it may flop.
And IMO your assumption is based on... No facts.
How can you know that SE is NOT going to leak it's highend? Maybe actually just the opposite, knowing people quite wait for that.
Also, we don't "know" that these suspected 7 devices will appear, and WHEN. It's still a speculation based on rumour!
I remember November last year, so many people were sure something's coming. Now it will be May 2008!
I think that the announcement will be the answer. |
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Talking about the future of mobile devices... I've recently read some detailed articles on the new concept phone from Nokia, the "Morph". It's said to be at least 7 years down the road but if it is anything close to what they say, it will change the way we think of mobile devices. OLED & nano technology... It's absolutely amazing if they can pull it off... Apparently Nokia is working with Cambridge University on this project.
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laurenke01
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As to the leaks, Paris, up until a week ago, was the most concealed SE phone I can remember. It was essentially a shadow--we knew it was there but we couldn't perceive it.
How can a phone that was billed as ultra-high-end be demoted to mid-end in a less than a day when the hype surrounding it has been building since November? It's incredibly funny that high-end specs can be established and confirmed over and over, yet it takes one or two random people going, "O hai, Paris iz not too speshul" to completely flip information on its head.
I know rumors are just rumors and they need to be taken with a grain of salt. But this kind of device simply doesn't get talked about and whispered about and lusted over and billed as something that will "slay" the competition unless it can actually deliver.
Paris has got to be the flagship we've been waiting for. Yeah, there are other phones coming out too, but one of them has got to be top dog, and Paris fits the bill. Ignoring all the doubt and skepticism, it is exactly as the rumors theorized months ago. And on the outside chance Paris isn't it--one of the other phones will be and will probably be announced at the same time as Paris.
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jayce
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Sony Ericsson have stated that the replacement for the P990 was the P1, which was essentially a P990 in a different form factor, with more memory and some bug fixes to make it usable (however based on an 18month old platform).
I see no sense in  creating yet another smartphone at a similar specification to the P1 and I doubt they'll go back to the flip design which looks dated now.
I really hope the specifications for Paris/P5 (whatever it's called) will be upto date and they can ship the thing on time and in volume.
At first I was worried about UIQ3.3 but the more I think about it, I don't want to see another debacle along the lines of UIQ2 -> UIQ3 and all applications have to be rewritten from scratch.
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Muhammad-Oli
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On 2008-04-10 14:48:59, laurenke01 wrote:
it takes one or two random people going, "O hai, Paris iz not too speshul" to completely flip information on its head.
Hahaha, awesome. 
Yeah I agree with your whole post mate.
Also, when people state things like how they're disappointed it doesn't have UIQ 4 and "only has UIQ 3.3." Are they just not thinking? There is nothing to say that UIQ 3.3 isn't what we were all calling UIQ 4... UIQ 4 is simply a name and number, and who knows, UIQ 4 could end up being very similar to 3.3 or it could be over a year away from release.
Same with people saying "Oh its crap, its not P5 - its only P3." Firstly, we don't even know its name at all. And secondly, its only names again. P3 could be the most high end phone you've ever seen, and so could P5. They are simply letters and numbers and they essentially mean nothing.
I must stress that I've seen more of this behaviour on other websites than here though, but you get the occasional person.
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ares
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At first I was worried about UIQ3.3 but the more I think about it, I don't want to see another debacle along the lines of UIQ2 -> UIQ3 and all
applications have to be rewritten from scratch.
no need to worry about that...old UIQ3 apps will still work on the new phones...
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Muhammad-Oli
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On 2008-04-10 15:16:54, ares wrote:
At first I was worried about UIQ3.3 but the more I think about it, I don't want to see another debacle along the lines of UIQ2 -> UIQ3 and all
applications have to be rewritten from scratch.
no need to worry about that...old UIQ3 apps will still work on the new phones...
Yeah I think we should only wonder about that one when they bring out UIQ 4. But even then I think they'll try and avoid the same problem as last time and make them work.
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jayce
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I guess that was my point, but badly made (doh!)
It's all very well wanting UIQ4 but when no 3rd party applications work then all the same people demanding it will now be complaining.
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badassmam
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A couple of months after you guys buy Paris, SE will bring out something much better. I can tell that some of you work for SE and some of you want to work for SE but the consumer doesn't like being ripped off and not everyone has money pouring out of their assholes.
After my superb P800 of 5 years, every SE phone that I have had from low to high end has resulted in the accumulation of an expensive pile of shit. If you guys like phones so be it, I have no problem with that but I think SE has been below par for a long time now.
If I could get another P800 I would but since I couldn't, I got an N95 last week for £60 with a few scratches, now tell me that Paris is £300 better than that and more "speshul" (we have the Oxford dictionary and use proper English over here, Laurenke). You all know that the N95 is what you compare Paris to, whether you like it or not.
Right now only the Walkmans look good so I'll wait for a decent one of those to come out but the rest, no. |
ares
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Yeah I think we should only wonder about that one when they bring out UIQ 4
If, as expected, UIQ4 will be based on Symbian 9.5, it will be the same thing...no problem with back compability
Only when something like Symbian 10 is launched we should worry about that...
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On 2008-04-10 15:42:29, badassmam wrote:
[...]assholes. [...]shit. [...] we have the Oxford dictionary and use proper English over here[...]
I can see a certain contradiction here...
And you wont get a bnib N95 for 60 pounds. Your comparison is - how do you call it in proper English? - shit. |
ares
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What can we say...the guy is badass...
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iqtidar
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n95 isnot shit. If it is shit, p1 is pig shit. |
Muhammad-Oli
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On 2008-04-10 15:55:41, iqtidar wrote:
n95 isnot shit. If it is shit, p1 is pig shit.
Lol you didn't understand what they said at all. Nobody called it shit.
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Posted: 2008-04-10 13:01
So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD 
