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Author The All New Sony Ericsson Portfolio for 2008
Lunion
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Posted: 2008-04-10 00:33
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Unless your a very lucky beta tester e.g. PK / press e.g. Mizzle (i think i am correct in stating 'press') or work in the specific departments, thats all anyone can do, be patient and wait.
If you live in a glass house, don't be chuckin stuff about.
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Posted: 2008-04-10 00:33
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On 2008-04-10 00:28:39, Tigershark42 wrote: Im personally not too driven by the OS of the handset, more by the features and general design of it all.


Then why wait for Paris when you have Xperia? Only because Paris has a 5MP cam???

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Posted: 2008-04-10 00:34
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Ive got a similar reasoning too, financially. Still, these things are expensive, so I cant really justify spending so much on something which is only 50% what I wanted. I'd be willing to wait an entire year for Paris's successor if it met my full requirements of every little feature I may want to use. Hopefully wont be that long though

MikeMeyers: That, and, Its a little on the bulky side, I was looking forward to something sleeker, a better camera in all respects, better USER INTERFACE DESIGN (Id be fine with WM if it looked good, because to be fair WM does everything Id expect it to do, but as a product design student, I cant buy something for which there are so many other choices if I dont like the way it looks). Im not ruling it out though, but it doesnt seem to be exactly what I was hoping for. I want something more of a finger touch basis. As Ive said before Id be happy with the G900 UI.

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Posted: 2008-04-10 00:41
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Untill this very moment to me it seems Paris hasn't managed to come up yet with something new or original like previous SE P series models did (except perhaps P1i). I've always wondered why didn't SE come up with an update to p990i like p910i was for the p900 (increased RAM and better cam)...

Anyway, at this moment xperia seems more like a SE flagship than Paris. Just my opinion... Hope things will change in the future when Paris will be oficially anounced and when we will se some official specifications.

@Tigershark42 Same for me here!

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Posted: 2008-04-10 00:46
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Right. I'm lovin' the pictures, but all the recent speculation on specs is giving me a headache, like I said. Only when the official specs come out (or specs from a reliable source) will this finally be settled.
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Posted: 2008-04-10 00:50
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One more thing: we haven't seen UIQ v3.3 in action yet so we can only guess how it will "look and feel". As for now we can only compare the future Paris UI to what we've seen in G700/900. Who knows what innovations and/or features Paris and UIQ 3.3 will bring in the UI
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Posted: 2008-04-10 01:00
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The more you visit this site, the clearer it becomes that at the end of the day youre the one who will buy the device, so listen to informed people, and filter out any good ideas from anyone else, keeping those as ideas only. Other than that, theres nothing more to it besides waiting for the concrete evidence and hence justification (or otherwise) of whether or not you want to buy it
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Posted: 2008-04-10 01:02
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Some more thoughts:

When PK said there will be other phones with higher specs than Paris: This is ambiguous (no doubt on purpose ). Shiho, if it indeed has a 7.2 MP camera and optical zoom, is technically higher-specced, but is it an alternate choice to Paris? Not for me.

All I want is a phone--any phone--with specs that match up with the list we knew about in November. VGA touchscreen, 5 MP camera, blah, blah, blah. If the phone we're being leaked now has those things, that is what I'm going to buy. It's all I need and all I've wanted since Nov. If Paris does not have these things, I will wait, once again, for this mythical super-phone to be announced.

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Posted: 2008-04-10 01:16
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On 2008-04-09 20:59:29, laurenke01 wrote:

On 2008-04-09 20:32:11, famous12 wrote:

yes this thread is for 2008 not 2020 so the number seven is useless..... how many for 2008 ?



I think his point for posting that was to show that Paris is not the only UIQ phone this year, not by a long-shot. So, the people claiming 2.6 QVGA etc, etc, may not be wrong--there probably will be devices with those specs later on to appeal to all market segments--but Paris is not it.


yes, that was my point...i still, this does not mean paris wont be a kick ass phone...people are forgeting the more important thing on the new upcoming crop of uiq phones: they wont be anymore underpowered in terms of processor...that is far more interesting than knowing the size and resolution of the screen
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Posted: 2008-04-10 01:16
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Oh no why is there better phones from SE soon?!!!!! I'm not waiting for sure and I need something to replace my Z610i by the end of Christmas of this year, in which this phone should be out (notice me refraining to use P5i).

This is all so confusing!


On 2008-04-09 11:38:17, c96sthl wrote:

I doubt the d pad will be success given the small spacing.

I am referring to user who need d pad for gaming or fast texting or wap browsing

I am using W580 now...I do find it is just a little smaller than what I used to get on my Z710

its going to be a tough thing....since keypad is tricky thing but from the look of it and assumption on the size...it just look like a tough thing to use


Well you do know that emilie is supposed to be a low end phone and not for extreme gaming or web browsing? I don't know anyone who uses a low end phone for these - they only want simple basic features and maybe a few more added bonuses: camera, perhaps mp3 ringtomes? So for the features the Emilie provides (I hope I'm spelling it right!) by Mizzle, it's a pretty good overall for a lowender.


@Poplover,
Thanks for updating us on the Beibei.
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Posted: 2008-04-10 01:36
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@ares
Right but at the same time there must be a clear strategy given by a maker which helps consumers to distinguish between differently targeted devices. So, I'm pretty curious what is the positioning of this rumoured device.
In the end, my usage of my device is based on what is given, not on hopes/rumours.
You know, I don't want to spend 1000$ on a highend phone and wake up 2 months later angry cos' much better solution appeared and I was wrong before! In this segment you don't change your phone every 3 months, if you REALLY use it. So, I hope SE will clear this with the announcement.
I also still think that Pseries means TOP of the SE house.
But what if Paris is NOT P??
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Posted: 2008-04-10 01:53
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I'm beginning to wonder if all this confusion is indicative of this "storm." By now, it seems clear we're not dealing with one device. My definition of a storm would be Shiho (high-end A200/A250/whatever it is), BeiBei (mid-end UIQ), P3i (mid-high-end UIQ) and P5i (high-ultra-high-end UIQ).

Maybe all the conflicting reports are stemming from the fact there is a storm of phones coming and the reality may be that all of the specs we've heard are true--and that there really is no conflict because they're actually all different devices.

Regardless of what Paris is or isn't, there is something big coming. All this hype and anticipation isn't created if all SE is going to do is announce one phone with a QVGA display.
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Posted: 2008-04-10 01:55
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Doministry, i dont think this phone will be so expensive like older p series, it will folow the tendency of p1 IMO that was launched at a way lower price than p990

And the keyboard identifies it clearly like a p series device

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doministry
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Posted: 2008-04-10 02:09
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@ares
I see what you mean.
That's actually very sensible.
Although, I'd rather pay more and get more.
The latest picture shows a decent device IMO.
True, and also - May seems like a proper time to introduce next P (one year after P1...).
Probably, the next "shake" with UiQ 4.0 (or 3.4 rather??)
Anyway, the offcial announcement will probably clear this out....
a w a r e
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Posted: 2008-04-10 02:12
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On 2008-04-10 01:55:33, ares wrote:
And the keyboard identifies it clearly like a p series device

@ares, I know we disagree on this but the P1 keyboard was taken from the M600 and it's questionable how much the P1 represents the P series, in my view it's an improved M600. I'm not saying it's bad, it's just different.
Since users seem to be divided on the keyboard issue, SE should have a device that does not have a rocker style keyboard. I still find it easier to use the P990 keyboard with my 2 thumbs than use the P1 keyboard, what can I say
P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD
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