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laurenke01
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Posted: 2008-04-09 15:40
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Seems likely. Some kind of touch-buttons, at any rate. Media controls would be awesome.
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Posted: 2008-04-09 15:51
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As far as I know, that "extra space" is only for your fingers to go when pressing the soft key buttons on the screen without the stylus. It'll be much easier and more comfortable to use your finger with this solution.
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Posted: 2008-04-09 15:55
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Paris is UGLY and OUTDATED.

When the industry is going finger touch screen,why put a d-pad in a finger touch device??There is no need for a jog dial either if the UI is similar to iphone.
I think the success of iphone lies in its UI and big screen and not it its poor specs like 2g and 2mpx cam and locked to a network and no legit 3rd party software.

If something good and successful is found in a competition,then why not copy the idea??

I was expecting Paris(since it was in the making for more than a year??) to have atleast 3.2" screen of similar quality as iphone,with a better than K850i cam module with a completely new uiq4 and a iphone like UI with N96 specs,minus the 16gb of course..and yes,a more professional phone looks.

Paris disappoints at every level !!
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Posted: 2008-04-09 15:56
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On 2008-04-09 15:51:30, Mizzle wrote:
As far as I know, that "extra space" is only for your fingers to go when pressing the soft key buttons on the screen without the stylus. It'll be much easier and more comfortable to use your finger with this solution.


ohhh

Thanks for explanation
chombos1
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Posted: 2008-04-09 15:57
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hidden keys are cool

but i don't care that space is just for fingers or hidden keys.....

hmmm... hey mizzle you mentioned (stylus). can you confirm it's existance from you picture of the back-side.

btw. i think that the stylus is there; i'm 99.99% sure


@dr thug
can you list the outdated specs please...

[ This Message was edited by: chombos1 on 2008-04-09 14:59 ]
Mizzle
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Posted: 2008-04-09 15:59
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Of course, there's a stylus. It's located on the top right corner.
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Dr. Thug the only other phones that can compete feature wise with Paris are N95/N96 and N82. Paris is actually better in several ways compared to those phones. It is hardly out of date and will remain current for 2+ years just like the original N95 did. So what if it doesn't have a huge screen with finger optimized UI? iPhone is more media player then phone. Don't even start me on that god awful on screen keyboard.
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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:08
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@chombos1,
For a first,stylus is OUTDATED

Edit:
@bodeh6,i don't like the iphone's text input either..i prefer SE handwriting recognition or qwerty(full).

[ This Message was edited by: dr_thug on 2008-04-09 15:12 ]
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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:11
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On 2008-04-09 16:08:33, dr_thug wrote:
@chombos1,
For a first,stylus is OUTDATED


That's just lame.
laurenke01
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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:11
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Dr.Thug: So don't use the D-pad. Plus, what's going to be easier to use when using the QWERTY? Reaching way up or using your other hand to use the screen (thus defeating one-handedness) or using your thumb to access the D-pad?

Give the user as many options as possible and let the user decide how to operate it.

If it didn't have a D-pad, we'd have gaggles of people complaining that it's "just like the iPhone" or that it's "not easy for one-handed operation."

[ This Message was edited by: laurenke01 on 2008-04-09 15:13 ]
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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:19
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On 2008-04-09 15:32:38, famous12 wrote:
Paris is Fugly



I think it doesnt deserve the hype it created for past 5 months,It just looks plain and looks like n95 black with few mm reduction.They could have bought this as a replacement for p990.But this looks Very late to market.I still hope it has some gr8 features.But again it seems it doesnt have 3.5mm jack or usb option, or jog dial.

There is so much inconsistency going on,they r just changing changing,without sticking to one layout.Creating confusion.

P990 4 way navigaton added
w960 back button changed
P1 navigation pad removed
Now Jog dial removed n Navigation pad added.

K700- W800- [W810]- W200-[ P990]=[Current].

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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:20
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On 2008-04-09 16:08:33, dr_thug wrote:
@chombos1,
For a first,stylus is OUTDATED

Edit:
@bodeh6,i don't like the iphone's text input either..i prefer SE handwriting recognition or qwerty(full).

[ This Message was edited by: dr_thug on 2008-04-09 15:12 ]


excuse me but it is a feature to me.

meaning of outdated:
1- several phones from the low-mid range should have it.
2- an old feature that many companies stoped producing.
3- somthing that is replaced by a new feature (you may say the Touch UI but paris has it!!--- it is a cross-section between a touch UI and a non-TS UI and that is unique till now)
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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:20
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On 2008-04-09 14:45:06, laurenke01 wrote:
Can't wait to see Paris's backside.


I am sure if you google it...you will find heaps of pictures of that.... LOL...

About the d-pad replacing the scrollwheel.....i really hope that the d-pad can also act as a scrolling mechanism....the fact that its circular i think it is quite possible (sorta like on the canon sd860...its got a d-pad but when u move ur finger around it...it scrolls through the picture...that would be really impressive)

i reckon if it had that...it would seal the deal for me

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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:23
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On 2008-04-09 16:11:50, laurenke01 wrote:
Give the user as many options as possible and let the user decide how to operate it.


This would be a good idea for a business device.

I too don't think the flashy TouchUI-only concept would suit the average business user. This is probably why BlackBerrys look the way they do - functional.

I would rather see an advanced Walkman with that kind of tweaked multimedia interface.
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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:28
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On 2008-04-09 15:21:28, laurenke01 wrote:

About business/fun: The X1 is business-like because it looks like a P1 and has WM, but the P5, while it looks less business-like, is in the P-series, yet it has better specs. So which is business and which is fun? Or are they both business and fun simultaneously? Not that it really matters, I guess. I'm getting the P5 regardless of what kind of person it's aimed toward.


Do we know what connectivity specs P5 will have? X1 has *all of them* The combo of Windows Mobile & full HSPA + WiFi, plus the way the thing looks and feels, makes X1 more "business class" at least to me. UIQ + vertical slider (instead of horizontal like X1) seems more like "hip, high-tech fun." May be an American thing though - seriously, we don't see UIQ much around here, and it really reminds me of Mac OS X (in a good way), which the media has trained us Yanks to equate with creativity and fun. Windows = boring business, Mac = creative fun (and status you pay extra for!).

Having gotten an X1 in my hands at CTIA last week, I was really impressed by it, but it definitely felt like a luxury item for an executive more than a fun media-oriented smartphone for a hip consumer. Depends on pricing, though.
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