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vegetaleb
Joined: May 03, 2002
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From: Lebanon
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It's the blue sky that is turning to purple the main color problem with the K850's camera
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ikaruga_moo
Joined: Nov 29, 2007
Posts: 11
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Also, you will only get the quality of what the lens can produce no matter how many megapixels the sensor has.. and the lens in the phone is no-where near the quality of any half decent digital camera.
Absolutely spot on, but you'll have to conceed that a phone camera at this stage of their development is always going to be second best to a dedicated camera. So you can't complain it's a bad camera when you yourself realises a hugh amount of pic quality comes from the lens.
Quick snapping for the moment is what phone cameras do best. If you want to take decent quality pics, get a proper camera. The size of a phone (K850, Viewty, N95 etc) is generally smaller than even the most compact of cameras that produce decent pics. So you simply can't expect the technology implemented in proper cameras to be in a unit that's a phone, camera, mp3 player, organiser etc etc.
You have to draw the line somewhere and realise the K850, N95, N82, Viewty are on a par with a very cheap digital camera maximum.
Onto firmware - I'm on R1DA038. No idea how old it is, but it's been utterly stable. The pics aren't a million miles better than the K800 bar at night. Chuck the pics quickly through Aperture/iPhoto/Picassa etc with some quick level adjustments and they're very acceptable.
How old is the R1DA038 firmware now? |
Duran
Joined: Aug 25, 2006
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From: Netherlands
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So i fixed my BROD using davinci, but could only flash it to BROD-sensitive fw (031 , EA037)..
So now i'm back on R1EA037 and SE better release a BROD-free fw before i get the BROD again or I will _NEVER_ go back to SE, even if their phones are better |
Tervel
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
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From: US, TX
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Why couldn't you go further back than 031? I was able to flash from 031 to R1CA037 back in February using DaVinci... |
Duran
Joined: Aug 25, 2006
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From: Netherlands
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On 2008-05-08 13:24:48, Tervel wrote:
Why couldn't you go further back than 031? I was able to flash from 031 to R1CA037 back in February using DaVinci...
because i could only flash to USA 037 fw.
All europe were 031+
I considered going to USA 037 USA, but apart from future SEUS problems I would also have to deal with all the bugs.
So im just hoping i can make it until the new fw:( |
Tervel
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
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From: US, TX
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I wonder why that is - I flashed mine from asian to adriatic ca037 with no problems. Why would they limit the firmwares that are available I wonder...
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Duran
Joined: Aug 25, 2006
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From: Netherlands
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I've just sent an email to their customer service:P (about BRODs)
not that it helps, but i added i dont want a default reply when they dont know what i'm talking about. (it'll probably end up being answered by someone outside of SE anyway)
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sandy4464
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Posts: 156
From: Leicester
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Well, i knew i wasn't going to get away with it forever, today, my 7 month old K850i decided to BROD me. Just got back from college and back to my ever so trusty S500i.
Luckily it seems to have been recognised by SEUS, so i'm Continuing anyway, and reloading 038 back on, fingers crossed!
EDIT: hasn't worked  off to wotan, i think i've still got a spare credit there.
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Duran
Joined: Aug 25, 2006
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From: Netherlands
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ah another victim.
Let's hope my 2nd try makes 7months too.. there must be a new fw within 7 months...right? =(
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Wild Child
Joined: Jan 14, 2008
Posts: 152
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Ok lemme say this much, for the most part, the average user imo would thoroughly enjoy this phone, those that want flawless photo's,perfect email client,flawless mp3 player etc etc etc, then buy the equipment MADE JUST for those services, this is a good phone for the most part. Outside of my own heavy handedness with the phone it has been reliable and stable. This isnt meant to start another bash fest as this thread has turned into, but just some random thoughts pretaining to everyones B$tching and moaning about this or that. Or arguing about this or that. Granted for some users it is not the phone for them as they are totally un-happy with the phone, to those people I will say this, shouldve done some more research to make sure the phone would do what you wanted before purchasing. And granted Sony hasnt done the best by the users as far as firmware, but no new phone series will be without glitches in one aspect or another and there will ALWAYS be someone not satisifed with the product. To sit at the computer and constantly b$tch about something that cannot be changed by anyone here gets redundant and boring to read. The one source of info we had in this place,because of the constant complaining and such will no longer share info. Do I blame him, not in the least...showed that the people who were doing this action were very rude and obnoxious to the guy and he was only trying to share some good stuff. These are my thoughts about what this thread has turned into.
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sandy4464
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
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From: Leicester
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My K850 has now been revived! Thank god for kulankendi. Just hope it won't die again.
I don't mind it too much, only annoyance with all this is that i've got to set up the phone again, download settings, internet, re-setup the blog, applications, push mail, and the such.
However, if i have to do this three of four more times, i might start to mind 
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aremaboy
Joined: Nov 27, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Malang, Indonesia
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Yes, Kulan Kendi client is very reliable and easy to follow. Just download the files you want, find the correct CDA string for the particular firmware (strangely I have to browse www.davinciteam.com to get all CDA list as Kulan Kendi does not even provide it) and flash the phone.
FYI, Kulan Kendi has got the latest R1EA037. |
meiso
Joined: Mar 06, 2007
Posts: 63
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Good news!
SE Canada fixed my phone but damaged it when they sent it back.. They sent me a new phone but it was branded so I have to flash the firmware. I think my old phone had R1EA031 Western Europe Customized Velvet Blue APAC-ANZ... But after buying credits at davinci and connecting my phone and choosing update software... I can't find the firmware i want to install!! Have they replaced it with something better? Any suggestions?
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obentou
Joined: Sep 19, 2005
Posts: 364
From: Toronto
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Well, I'm back on the SE K850i bandwagon again, to see how good the new firmware is.
Many many improvements, except for this BROD stuff... I have a Quicksilver edition one on R1EA037. Let's hope I don't get hit! |
Vlad83
Joined: Feb 01, 2008
Posts: 143
From: Miami, FL U.S.
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@Wildchild While I agree that some complaints are getting redundant, the fact of the matter is that SE's flagship model under performs in comparison to its predecessors (K800/K810) in response speed, MP3, Bluetooth compatibility, color representation, and if all of that is not enough we have the potential of it dying on us which SE can not even fix, we have to go to other places so they can make money on us due to SE's negligence. Mind you, this is almost a year since the phone came out and SE still does not know(admit) that these phones have a problem. I think you are sugar coating it a bit... So the mega pixels have been dialed up, that is only one tiny variable in determining a good camera. Now to make my self clear, I am not comparing a phone to a digital camera, I don't expect them to perform on par. However, it would be nice for their next generation phone to continue from where the predecessor left off. People are upset because they feel cheated in a way, they paid for a phone (and an expensive one at that when it came out) expecting something that they did not get. If folks wanted a phone without all those things you said in your post then they could have bought a lower end phone and expect those functions not to be there. If you bought a top of the line computer but you network card did not work properly and had trouble getting on the internet, would you say the same thing? Well, my windows works, I can type documents, and play games, so what if the internet cuts in and out... Or how about if your windows dies on you and you had to take to it a shop because the manufacturer didn't think the problem was their fault. While exaggerated, this is what is happening...
As for the "person" that abandoned us, people got frustrated with him. He would constantly say that he got new info but he can't share it. If you post in the forum about your insider info then inform the rest of us, if you can't say, then don't say anything at all. When when people called him on it he turned spiteful and and said we don't deserve to know, like we are children that need to be rewarded for good behavior. Give me a break, you either help unconditionally as a service to the community or don't help at all. | |
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