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cmc0
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Posted: 2004-07-05 20:32
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On 2004-07-05 17:02:50, Arne Anka wrote:
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On 2004-07-05 15:51:13, cmc0 wrote:
That sucks. That's a terrible move on SE's part and I hope they fix it for the final firmware.



Why ? What would anyone gain by making photos in open mode ?





Like I said, I may want to send different pics to people that are'nt in my phonebook and it would be inconvient to being forced to open and close the keypad
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Posted: 2004-07-05 20:41
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On 2004-07-05 17:56:59, Krubach wrote:
Ok. No pic then!
It seems that the workaround is not an option...

Fer christ sakes! If it's phisically impossible, what do you guys want to do about it?!?!?!? Put two cameras? One in each part?

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[ This Message was edited by: Krubach on 2004-07-05 16:57 ]



And it's not physically impossible. In fact the S0505i I used in Japan allows you to use the camera with the keypad up or down. when SE decided to release the S700, they must of "magically" disabled this feature

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Posted: 2004-07-06 15:06
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On 2004-07-05 20:41:24, cmc0 wrote:
And it's not physically impossible. In fact the S0505i I used in Japan allows you to use the camera with the keypad up or down. when SE decided to release the S700, they must of "magically" disabled this feature



I was saying that is physically impossible not to cover the camera lens (grabbing the phone as usual) with your hand.
That's why i gave the idea of, using it's software, flip the pic vertically when the swivel is open, because the lens is in the keypad part and would be inverted. That way the camera wouldn't have to be disabled.

But people started saying: «noooooooo», «that's stupid», «the hand would cover the lens»... hence, my previous post. [addsig]
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Posted: 2004-07-06 17:52
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I don't see anywhere in my previous post where I said "No" and "That would be stupid".

I'm sure that there are enough threads and posts on this forum as well as other forums to find out what you're looking for. The stuff I'm posting about the S700 I got from other threads. I'm just relaying that information. If you don't like this "info" or, you're in denial of accepting it, then I can't help you.
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Posted: 2004-07-06 17:59
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Ok.
Back to the beginning...

PROBLEM:
No pics when swivel is open. Firmware doesn't allow it.

My suggestion to SE engineers to solve this problem:
Enable the camera always. If the swivel is open, then just invert the pic, flipping it vertically.

You comment to my suggestion:
That would be awkward, because the hand would cover the lens.

My comment to your comment:
No pic then!!!!! Don't do anything, just leave the firmware that way!
Some people need to grab the phone with a full hand!




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On 2004-07-06 17:52:11, randomtask77 wrote:
I'm sure that there are enough threads and posts on this forum as well as other forums to find out what you're looking for. The stuff I'm posting about the S700 I got from other threads. I'm just relaying that information. If you don't like this "info" or, you're in denial of accepting it, then I can't help you.




Is this comment intended for me?
I'm not looking for nothing... where did you get that.
I'm not denying anything, i'm just making some suggestions.
I think your nickname suits you well.
Even your posts are random...

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runab0ut
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Posted: 2004-07-06 19:28
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Well they should do something about it.

i can imagine people doing this: rotating... take a pic... rotate... check pic and send... *oh wait, that's a nice* rotate... take pic some more... rotate back... *sigh*
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Posted: 2004-07-06 22:09
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Krubach> Flipping the picture vertically ain't enough. Left would be on right and vice-versa
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Posted: 2004-07-07 02:13
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Wow... You're taking this way too seriously. I understand that you made a suggestion about the phone. I commented about how the suggestion wouldn't work.

You then made a sarcastic suggestion as well as adding words to other people's comments. I guess you felt offended about the comment and you had felt to make a rebuttal about it.

How about this. Get the phone when it's available, give us a review and let us know if you could take pics with the phone open.
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Posted: 2004-07-07 11:14
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I give up... [addsig]
roch
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Posted: 2004-07-07 11:50
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hi! so wen do plan to release this phone...if ever? this has probably been posted before but......theres 46 pages of posts and havnt really been bothered to read the whole lot. Is it planned for this year?

Has anyone reviewed/seen a working prototype of this phone?

Ive been waiting for the z1010 a year now and im really getting sick and tired of being messed around. So if S700 is gonna come within the nxt few months I mite just give up on 3G for now.
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Posted: 2004-07-08 01:04
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I hear that it mite be out in september although this is still just a rumor and that the announced date of release is in 3rd quarter of 2004.

ill get one as soon as it gets out...... I mean, as soon as I have enough money for it
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Posted: 2004-07-08 01:56
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On 2004-06-26 16:35:16, scrattyrat wrote:
From what i have seen, it appears video playback/capture does not utilise the full screen, only a tiny part, whereas the photo function (capture and playback) clearly does. Does anyone know more about this as if it is the case it will severley let down this excellent phone!

lets hope we can have full screen video playback!



If ur talking about PICT1906 and PICT1907 the screen isnt showing the video playback or capture. On my digital camera, when your scrolling through photos and movies stored on the card, the movies arent showed fullscreen. Theres a small picture in the middle of the screen of the start of the movie just so you can tell which movie it is...the rest of the screen is a blue background (in this case its black) with details of resolution and movie length . But once you select 'play' the picture expands and the movie is shown full screen.

Just shows how much like a digital camera this phone really is.
Cheers

EDIT: The photos im talking about are on this site: http://www.t610.org/s700/gallery/

[ This Message was edited by: roch on 2004-07-08 00:58 ]
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Posted: 2004-07-08 12:50
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@ roch

i hope youre right, looking closely at the photos it could appear that neither of the photos show the vidoe clips actually playing, rather wating for play to be pressed. As you say this would enable users to cycle through clips before deciding which one to play. Hopefully once playing it will be full screen - i have been reading bengalboys guide to ripping DVD's etc for watching on mobile phones and the s700 is crying out for this type of use as long as they give us full screen playback! if not what a wasted oppurtunity considering the size and quality of the screen when compared to other phones.
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Posted: 2004-07-08 16:48
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scrattyrat: i agree !
but how many mins of DVDRip can you store on (for example) 128 MS Duo?
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Posted: 2004-07-08 18:12
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@ intelegent115

From reading 'bengalboys bible: how to rip and encode DVD's for playback on your K700/S700&P900', which you can find by following the this link:

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=61354#post798675

and which i highly recommend reading BTW, it would appear you can fit quite a lot on a 128meg MS DUO.

For instance, quoting from bengalboys guide: "reduced to a 93mb file that contains a 2 hour and 7 minute movie.... "
that movie was infact the matrix reloaded (used in bangalboys example), a 1.2gb DVD which when reduced to 98mg fits quite nicely on a MS DUO with enough spare for a good few mp3's!

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