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JK
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I think the hindu calender is in 6000 something...
while Islam is in the 1400's. |
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gelfen
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On 2005-08-11 18:10:28, joebmc wrote:
Couple of questions
1.What did the Muslims follow before the Quran? As if I understand correct the Quran is approx 1500 years old and we all know that people have been on this planet a lot longer than that. So was their an early book? |
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pre-islamic arabs were predominantly polytheist pagans, but still acknowledged allah above the others. there was also a smattering of judaism and christianity in arabic culture.
in the early days of isalm there was a general impression among pagan arabs (especially in Mecca) that muhammad was either a madman or possessed by an evil spirit. as i understand it the pagan arabs made no stand against islam, because by its nature paganism is inclusive and tolerant of a variety of belief systems, until muhammad began actively denouncing their traditional deities.
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joebmc
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Another question about the Quran 
Who were isma'il isaac, jacob and the tribes? They just seem to pop up in verse's and have had no introduction as such!
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All the mentioned above are prophets.
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PeterKay
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Most mentioned prophets in the Quran were mentioned in previous scriptures like the bible and gospel.
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joebmc
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So the Qurans like an extra part to the bible? or not 
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PeterKay
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The Quran is the final revelation and has parts of the bible.
and has not changed since.
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Verses 21 and 22 from Chapter 59 states:
Had We sent down this Quran on a mountain, verily, thou wouldst have seen it humble itself and cleave asunder for fear of Allah. Such are the similitudes which We propound to men, that they may reflect.
Allah is He, than Whom there is no other God. Who knows all things both secret and open. He, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
Verses 45-47 from chapter 33 Allah says to the Holy Prophet SAW:
O Prophet! Truly We have sent thee as a Witness, a Bearer of Glad Tidings, and Warner.
And as one who invites to Allah's grace by His leave, and as a lamp spreading light.
Then give the Glad Tidings to the Believers, that they shall have from Allah a very great Bounty.
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Cenfi
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do u guys remember some of the lyrics of John Lennon "Imagine"
yeah... i think i'm agree wit him.
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@Cenfi
Well he did have a point ...
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joebmc
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Yeah the point of a bullet on his head
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Chapter 42 Verse 13 from the Holy Quran states the religion of Jesus, Moses and other prophets (peace be upon them all).
The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah - the which We have sent by inspiration to thee - and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: Namely, that ye should remain steadfast in religion, and make no divisions therein: to those who worship other things than Allah, hard is the way to which thou callest them. Allah chooses to Himself those whom He pleases, and guides to Himself those who turn to Him.
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Great site that teaches more on Islam and gives free books 
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@scot, actually he was referred to the religions brought down by God.
Those that share the same prophets, story, and show prayer to God.
There are other religions of course but they are not the same as the relation between Judism, Christianity, and Islam.
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@amnesia
Now we as Muslims know there were many prophets but not all of them were mentioned in the Quran. If we believe christians are wrong for believing that Jesus is the son of God, as he was a prophet I don't see why many of the eastern religions might have originated from prophets we weren't told about. Most of the stories in the Quran are about nations and prophets more or less in the Middle East but we believe there were messengers sent to all people. Obviousely far eastern religions are quite a lot older than Judism.
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