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axxxr
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On 2005-07-10 22:27:12, tranquil wrote:
So that would be us saying "Sorry mate. You can't say what you mean but he/she can."
That is how it would be looked upon.
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But don't you practice that anyway by locking or deleteing threads?..you the Mods decide whats acceptable or not,its basically your choice no one else has a say in it so whats the difference?..In this case the idea is to keep the threads fair and balanced and on topic.
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tranquil
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Do you find it fair when I delete a topic, or post, of yours? 
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axxxr
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What do you think? 
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Sammy_boy
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If everyone would care to look this way at the last few posts for an excellent example of what Scotsboy is talking about.....
Please excuse my sarcastic comment at the end. I'm in one of those moods. Sorry.
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
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absinthebri
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On 2005-07-10 23:34:52, Sammy_boy wrote:
If everyone would care to look this way at the last few posts for an excellent example of what Scotsboy is talking about.....
Please excuse my sarcastic comment at the end. I'm in one of those moods. Sorry.
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What's he talking about?
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axxxr
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On 2005-07-10 23:37:26, absinthebri wrote:
What's he talking about?
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I think sammy is reffering to this
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absinthebri
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On 2005-07-10 23:42:15, axxxr wrote:
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On 2005-07-10 23:37:26, absinthebri wrote:
What's he talking about?
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I think sammy is reffering to this
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You think I'm going to follow links all night?
It seems to me some people like to make political posts at will and simultaneously attempt to silence all dissenting voices.
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Jim
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Yeah right, you sure you believe in this axxxr ? Take your last posts as example ...
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axxxr
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On 2005-07-11 00:05:48, Jim wrote:
Yeah right, you sure you believe in this axxxr ? Take your last posts as example ...
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Good evening...what was i going to say??..yeh i was going to say i completely believe in that statement i made..why is everyone on my case today or is it just me? 
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Sammy_boy
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I hope this isn't turning into a flame war....
Be a bit of a cruel irony if Scotsboy's thread got locked due to a flame war!
@axxxr - didn't you know, today is now officially the 'get axxxr day'
By the way you smell!
I'll shut up now before I send this even further off topic
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke
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axxxr
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Sniff Sniff.....i see what you mean sammy_boy damm i need a shower! 
look over there terrorists heading for esato.....runnnn!!
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tranquil
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On 2005-07-10 17:26:30, scotsboyuk wrote:
I would be quite interested in hearing the opinions of the other moderators on this issue.
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OK, time to get back on track so I'll air my thoughts.
Masseur has allready said most of what needs to be said from the moderators side but I do have viwes on this as well.
Political and relegious topics scare the living daylight out of me!
Not that I have a big problem with them as such but, as Masseur said, they are a lot of work.
They need to be watched much closer than other topics and at the same time, if we do anything to them, all hell breaks loose;
Deleting/editing a post are looked at as "cencorship and interfearing with freedom of speach."
Removing links or pictures are looked upon the same way.
Warning members, who step over the line, gives us grief as we ar bombarded with PMs about how unfair we are and how useless we are at our job.
Banning a member for the same reason makes it even worse; Then several members ask where that member has gone and why he was banned. If we tell those members why we are find ourselves breaking our principle of privacy towards the banned member and when the ban is lifted that member are ready for a fight because we didn't tell hes mates the truth.
If we lock a political/religioius topic we find a pile of PMs from members who ask us to reopen it because they had a few more things to say.
Removing a poitical/religious topic results in flaming, often in a new topic created for the single reason to give us a hard time, where we are expected to "defend" ourselves. If we don't we are called chickens who hide and don't dare stand up for our actions.
I am not a big fan of these kinds of topics but I see why they appear every now and then; It's things we all are concered about one way or another. It's natural th speak to those you "meet" in here every day about things that are on your mind.
Banning political/religius topics?
No, I don't think that is the way to go.
The way to go is as simple as this: When Team Esato see the need to take some kind of action you accept it. When we say "stop, enough is enough", that's what it is.
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absinthebri
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@ tranquil
Excellent post. I can see how much work we give the mods!
I'd like to think that when a moderator has edited or pulled a post of mine, or given me 'advice', I have accepted such action gracefully. For all my faults, I'd like to think I accept moderation here without comment. I'd also like to note that, in my humble opinion, the moderators here tend to be fair and sensitive.
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slattery69
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On 2005-07-10 22:27:12, tranquil wrote:
So that would be us saying "Sorry mate. You can't say what you mean but he/she can."
That is how it would be looked upon.
i disagree i think most memebers would be happy to see someone banned from the topic if they are just posting to inflame a discussion or single someone out.
i dont think you will be banning people who are making legitimate arguements rather people who do the exact opposite.
i also believe thats the participents in the said posts also have a responsiblity to make sure that people keep the thread running correctly. i think only after they fail should the mods need to step in and ban people from the thread |
tranquil
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Singeling people out in a heated discussion is very difficult. The only way to do that is to watch the topic all the time.
By reading through a topic once in a while we find posts that ought to have been removed but the following three or four posts might reffer to that single post (Sometimes even 10th to 15th post after that again as well). By removing one post (That post wich qualyfies for banning) we need to go through the whole topic, from the end and forwards, to make sure there is no refferences to that post. Leaving refference posts defeats the purpouse of removing one post.
I certainly don't have the time to stare at one topic waiting for someone to say something stupid. If I did I'd guarantee you there'd be three or four others who share that single members view and we have the same rigmaroll going again.
Acceptence for us doing what we see needed is what I ask for.
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