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amfne033
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On 2005-05-22 17:43:10, lastride wrote:
if you don't like the way Esato is well piss off
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One does admit she has a point. i like esato the way it is. sure there are a few weirdo's but thats life just dont read their threads.
One things that sticks out though if scotsboy ever became a moderator then we are all buggerd.
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scotsboyuk
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On 2005-05-23 15:56:00, amfne033 wrote:
One does admit she has a point. i like esato the way it is. sure there are a few weirdo's but thats life just dont read their threads.
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I see where you are coming from, but I have never been one to simply accept such things. Better to have tried to make a difference for the good and fail than to not try at all.
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One things that sticks out though if scotsboy ever became a moderator then we are all buggerd.
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You shall all feel my wrath! Moo ha ha ha ha ha ... oh wait I'm not a moderator yet! Oops! Patience scots, patience, soon they will all tremble in fea ... is this thing still on?
Seriously though, I would be very unlikely to accept any such position unless it was under exceptional circumstances. There are people far more qualified for the position than myself.
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Vlammetje
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On 2005-05-23 16:32:28, scotsboyuk wrote:
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such as...... being asked? 
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scotsboyuk
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Basically yes!  No, joking aside, only if I felt that I could really make a positive difference and that I would be best for the job. As I said before, I think there are people who would be better than me in the position and I would recommend them before myself. 
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dave_uk
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I think that these threads do no harm at all. How can it be a bad thing for us to discuss in a semi-organised and civil manner what is happening in the Forum. Having read Scots' typically lengthy, but also insightful initial post, I can't help but be instantly able to identify with what he is saying. However, I also can't help but think that there are various parts of those categorisations in many of us, certainly myself.
Really, I have a couple of points:
Firstly, there is definitely something in this, but I'm not sure what you can do about it. It tends to be in fits and starts as particular members come and go and IMHO 90% of the crap is posted by a tiny percentage of the membership. The only way to change this is an unrealistic and drastic overhaul, both in the way in which the forum is moderated and the fact that the admin would effectively have to decide to exclude members based on the poverty of their contribution to the forum. Apart from the vast subjectivity this would involve, it is not really a very nice way to behave. It would create an interesting environment, but the bizarre variety is part of Esato's true value, although it may seem irritating to some (myself included at times), at best.
Secondly, as I said before, I'm not sure whether it is a little dangerous to categorise members' posting characteristics in this way. Whilst I agree whole-heartedly that obvious examples spring to mind when reading the initial post, I also feel that the members for whom I have the most respect are equally guilty of some of these characteristics in different ways. I know I have been guilty of doing the Political Activist (much to masseur's chagrin ) on a few occasions.
The content here is reflective of people's moods when they post as much as anything else, and therefore human nature. That is a big issue to tackle and attempt to solve, although I admire scotsboy's genuine desire to do so. But I fear it is unrealisitic and must agree with those who have said that no matter how many times this is brought up, it is something of an unbreakable cycle and we must embrace the benefits of Esato's diversity rather than focussing on the more unpleasant and admittedly frequently irritating side of the forum.
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axxxr
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Very nicely put dave_uk,i very much agree with everything that you have stated there.
These discussions will come and go but esato will very much remain as it is,and no doubt a few months or maybe years down the line we be having this debate again.Its all part of a healthy and prosperous forum.
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scotsboyuk
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Thank you for that equally lengthy and very insightful post, you are a credit to Esato.
The more I contemplate this subject the more I realise that it seems a lost cause, but as I said before, I hate to abandon something without having at least tried.
I agree that there are parts of those definitions in all of us to a certain extent and I have another defintion to add:
The Pompous Windbag - this character likes the sight of his own typing and will often post long, sometimes very long, sometimes very very long, posts, which could be condensed into a few lines.
Typically well meaning, these people are nevertheless annoying in that they seem to drone on about topics that are either high brow or just dull or perhaps even a combination of both. It has been noted that there also exists a certain penchant for using francais in everyday speech to such an extent that it is sans its inherent joy de vivre and has become de rigeur.
Seemingly able to post in any thread irrespective of subject matter these people should not be argued with unless one is prepared for an extremely long debate, which may affect one's vision owing to the amount of reading one will have to do.
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mustafabay
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Now thats not nice. Lastride was actually siding with me and why wouldn't she, she was on wap too.
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milmino
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I pesonally like the way esato evolves over the time, It is a dynamic forum that you can rest assured will be very different (or not, depending on how you look at it) within the next 3 years.
I also dont mind the diversity of the forums, it keeps it from being boring..
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dave_uk
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On 2005-05-23 17:59:54, scotsboyuk wrote:
....The Pompous Windbag - this character likes the sight of his own typing and will often post long, sometimes very long, sometimes very very long, posts, which could be condensed into a few lines.
Typically well meaning, these people are nevertheless annoying in that they seem to drone on about topics that are either high brow or just dull or perhaps even a combination of both. It has been noted that there also exists a certain penchant for using francais in everyday speech to such an extent that it is sans its inherent joy de vivre and has become de rigeur.
Seemingly able to post in any thread irrespective of subject matter these people should not be argued with unless one is prepared for an extremely long debate, which may affect one's vision owing to the amount of reading one will have to do.
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You know, I'm having trouble with that one....I know there's someone, but I just can't place him....?
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scotsboyuk
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I seem to recall he was a rather good looking fellow, reminiscent of a young Obi-Wan Kenobi ...
Those definitions are my own of course, you will all have your own personal pet peeves. There as aspects of those definitions within each of us and more besides. I am not arguing against diversity or fun, but rather the mindless numbness that has sprung up.
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Vlammetje
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Obia 
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ewap8
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Oh I'm so glad scotsboyuk created this thread.
I remember back when I joined. No one from those days is still active here, neither am I. I just think the forum has been filled with utter cr@p now. Too much going on, too little that essentially makes any sense.
I do keep coming back once in a while to get up-to-date with the mobile tech news, but its just not the same...
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sapporobaby
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@ewap8,
Good point. I normally come here and talk to people mainly in PM now.
I have an idea, why don't the mods take away the post counts and see how many stick around. There are some here that simply post to have something to say. There is really very little info being passed now. Just crazy, "why doesn't SE make the perfect phone" threads.
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*
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BobaFett
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If any of u like to discuss the good old times instead of focusing the present, i may invite u to join the /// forum, where the "minority" try to keep to topic and concentrate to the real mission of esato, sharing infos, personal experiences and support each other at any kind of questions. Pls dont take this post as a kind of advertisement, more an invitation to a tiny island in the huge esato-sea, where u can take a short vacation or stay for longer time. From my point of view, esato is working great.
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