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Aino: Step In The Right Direction or Epic Fail? |
Muhammad-Oli
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Oh yeah true, and Aino is missing that too.
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tranced
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what was  thinking? a very good camera with good features are part of the UE!!!
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mode
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Missing white balance option and no ev control. If that was true for W995 I'd be producing crappy photos. Was seriously considering Aino after knowing
I was mislead to believe it only has Megabass. Not any more 
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hihihans
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So it's epic-fail ? @ M.O. How "slim" ? I mean what features are there? If any?
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bronxdude
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On 2009-10-23 06:45:58, mode wrote:
Missing white balance option and no ev control. If that was true for W995 I'd be producing crappy photos. Was seriously considering Aino after knowing
I was mislead to believe it only has Megabass. Not any more
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mode
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@hihihans
I was more concerned with reliability rather than specs but the mentioned camera features should be a standard in any phone with a camera not just convergience or image-centric phones. Now, even if Aino's sensor/lens is probably better than W995's but without being able to control the camera the same way, I think its full potential may never be harnessed  .Will it ever be possible to add those features with a firmware update (I doubt it though, hey, it's ) or is it a problem with the lack of hardware keys which pretty much means it's a done deal? 
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On 2009-10-23 11:09:56, bronxdude wrote:
On 2009-10-23 06:45:58, mode wrote:
Missing white balance option and no ev control. If that was true for W995 I'd be producing crappy photos. Was seriously considering Aino after knowing
I was mislead to believe it only has Megabass. Not any more
so it only has mega bass and not clear audio?
It has Clear Audio, but I was miselead into believing it only has Megabass because in some of the specs list it has been quoted to only have Megabass which is strange. But other specs mentioned Clear Audio which makes more sense. Can anyone confirm which of these are present in Aino?
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Darkwun
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to be fair it is a step in the right direction for a media based phone but theres something about the screen size which urges to be used for more than just the media mode and thats probably one of my biggest gripes about the phone...
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Muhammad-Oli
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On 2009-10-23 10:17:45, hihihans wrote:
So it's epic-fail ? @ M.O. How "slim" ? I mean what features are there? If any?
I mentioned what it has in the Aino thread I believe. It's not a failure, it's just obviously more of a point and shoot camera than everyone is used to. You can still get some decent shots with it.
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carkitter
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My iPhone 3G has no camera settings whatsoever (not sure about the 3Gs) but that doesn't stop iPhone owners taking photos and video and uploading them in huge numbers.
Yes, it is a backward step from our point-of-view but we need to consider the bigger picture of Aino's position in the market and who the target audience is. Like it or not, the market for the traditional high-spec 'Swiss Army Knife' do-everything feature phone controlled by increasing numbers of dedicated buttons is not just falling, it is falling at an alarming rate. Relatively low-spec, task-specific devices like the iPhone and various Blackberrys and the Palm Pre are the one's selling out. It's not surprising that should release an innovative device focussed more on media playback than media creation because that is where the market is at right now.
Perhaps we should evolve too. Our favourite do-everything phones are going the way of the dinosaurs I think.
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hihihans
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@ Carkitter, if you put it that way SE should name it
 Aino.
K Satio.
F Yari.
Entertainment [u]Unlimited/u] 
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@carkitter has nailed it - and I reckon the Aino should do very well because everyone who has seen mine has been wowed - and these are people you wouldn't necessarily think were into feature packed handsets.
It's like a normal mobile phone (okay, with a taller screen) and the touch functions are also impressing people, and they're not even concerned about the fact it only supports touch in the media/phone closed mode.
It doesn't have every trick in the book, but it looks simple and understandable to people who aren't into smartphones (or what they perceive to be smartphones, therefore complicated, by its look and feel). It is fast - although I've also noticed odd pausing, which will hopefully be fixed in a firmware update - the screen is bright and clear and it's simple to use.
However, it does have many drawbacks like the lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack, a less than brilliant internal speaker that will presumably be fixed for the follow up to the Aino next year. I can only assume the Aino is based on an older platform. As mentioned, the screen has been in use in Japan for many years.
It's odd how SE kept saying the bigger, big screen, devices in Japan wouldn't sell here. How dumb was SE for not realising that we are watching movies on our phones, looking at YouTube, using iPlayer etc - or simply looking at web pages - making that larger screen than SE could have used at any time just as important here as anywhere else.
Time and time again, SE has resisted bringing Japanese designed models here and they've nearly always been huge hits when they did.
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mode
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On 2009-10-23 23:46:23, carkitter wrote:
Like it or not, the market for the traditional high-spec 'Swiss Army Knife' do-everything feature phone controlled by increasing numbers of dedicated buttons is not just falling, it is falling at an alarming rate. Relatively low-spec, task-specific devices like the iPhone and various Blackberrys and the Palm Pre are the one's selling out.
I thought that's exactly the point for Entertainment Unlimited, a sort of multimedia convergence, I'd say imaging falls nicely in this category too, that's why it's only accessible through touch. In fact, AFAIK it was spawned by the idea that you wouldn't have to choose anymore between Cybershot or Walkman ie Media. You're talking about it as being more of a playback phone but if this is true, why is there no DivX or AVI video playback when it's supposed to be a monster in this department, why do we have to take the trouble to convert everything? And now, the camera features. If that's supposed to be its strength then half baked offerings is truly inapporpriate to the spirit of the phone. I've learnt to accept Aino's specs even before it came out(or I'd be looking elsewhere long ago) and have always been more concerned about its performance rather, but unfortunately the lack of camera options (and Clear Bass...or is it Megabass?) is a deal breaker for me. I'm not saying they should have these features because it's what I want, but what if there are a million other potential customers just like me, that wouldn't be good for my favourite brand and I'm concerned.
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masseur
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hmmm. I can see carkitters point of view though in general I think do-it-all devices are definitely the way of the future
iphone succeeds currently due to the app store even when the hardware doesn't neccessariliy live up to the potential of the software
...and that is pretty much my point with do-it-all devices... the manufacturers seem to be purposely limiting advancement in order to maximise profit. I mean what point is there in providing hardware now that can do everything when the manufacturers can upgrade the hardware piecemeal style to maximise profits and eventually still realise the same goal?
This has been my thoughts for the last half of this decade and I do feel we should be achieving what sci-fi might have predicted for this time period if it was not for the business aspect of advancing technology at a pace that is profitable
at least now SE are not separating walkman from cybershot (at least not as they originally did), and that is certainly one step forward towards real convergence
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Mano82
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Aino got 6 in Test on a norwegian site 
Translation in english:
http://translate.google.com/t[....]47&sl=no&tl=en&history_state0=
Original: http://mobilen.no/wip4/review[....]y-ericsson-aino/d.epl?id=41147 | |
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